James Smith
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Well the songs LIVE WHILE WE'RE YOUNG and WHAT MAKES YOU BEAUTIFUL were written by YACOUB R/FALK C/KOTECHA S, so unless the band write under pseudonyms I'd guess it's not them.
Surely 1 direction must've accomplished this? By god they are talentless when it comes to singing. Please don't tell me someone writes that garbage for them?
A Night at the Opera was number 13 in Channel 4's top 100 albums.
http://www.listal.com/list/100-greatest-albums
For the record, the only thing Joy Division influenced me to do was reach for the off switch.
Overrated and shit.
Alright grandad
You can talk, one of them was dead before I was even born fella.
Me too. Point being?
Well then I'm not sure of your 'Alright Grandad' comment at all then.
For the record, the only thing Joy Division influenced me to do was reach for the off switch.
Overrated and shit.
Well the songs LIVE WHILE WE'RE YOUNG and WHAT MAKES YOU BEAUTIFUL were written by YACOUB R/FALK C/KOTECHA S, so unless the band write under pseudonyms I'd guess it's not them.
Well then I'm not sure of your 'Alright Grandad' comment at all then.
I'd just ignore it if I were you. Was a joke.
Do you like Marillion by any change?
Didn't new order(joy division) kick off all that Ibiza music scene in the early 80s??
YOU CAN NOT BE SERIOUS?
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Fair enough. I'd never heard of them until now to be honest, only time I hear that sort of music is when I'm steaming in Scholars.
I'd rather be listening to some mid to late 90s hip-hop or be off my tits in Ibiza.
Saying that, I went to Download Festival last year and Metallica and Black Sabbath were quality.
Joy Divisions - Closer album is a masterpiece.
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Didn't new order(joy division) kick off all that Ibiza music scene in the early 80s??
They (or Tony Parsons - their manager - I think) used their funding for the Hacienda in Madchester, and promoted the Happy Mondays etc.. So I suppose they did really
Different tastes an all that, which is perfectly fine.
That music that you are listening to whilst off your tits in Ibiza...., that whole scene was pioneered by New Order at places like the Hacienda in the 1980's born from the band Joy Division. That's influence in a sense of music and culture defining that Queen have never done.
Different tastes an all that, which is perfectly fine.
That music that you are listening to whilst off your tits in Ibiza...., that whole scene was pioneered by New Order at places like the Hacienda in the 1980's born from the band Joy Division. That's influence in a sense of music and culture defining that Queen have never done.
Different tastes an all that, which is perfectly fine.
That music that you are listening to whilst off your tits in Ibiza...., that whole scene was pioneered by New Order at places like the Hacienda in the 1980's born from the band Joy Division. That's influence in a sense of music and culture defining that Queen have never done.
And kraftwork in the 70's
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Wow a music thread! Or was that something about the stadium?
Ok back on point because to get involved in the 80's music scene again for me is too good a memory.
people need to realise before they consider SISU would not build a stadium due to cost that such a stadium would most likely be built by a developer of a site. Money would pour in from all over. SISU's outlay would in fact be small. They would end up the owners with a mortgaged freehold property or even a 125 year lease. The projection for such a mortgage or lease is less than the 1.2m they were paying for renting the Ricoh pitch! This time the income of everything they do is theirs. beginning to make more sense?
For me though I still believe the part ownership or long lease interest in the Ricoh is the more viable option for them. But don't rule out a new stadium, far from it. The modular design is easy in concept and built to speed, can be increased in capacity during a close season.
Perhaps ACL need to realise they may have another stadium competing for business with them in a few years time and the football club would be the big headline grabber that ACL could not offer.
What I want is a sensible council work something out with the football club for the long term and offer SISU a clear exit strategy they could live with while the stadium is always in the football clubs hands whoever own the football club from time to time. In other words a clause that stipulates an owner can not sell the stadium interest without the football club.
They (or Tony Parsons - their manager - I think) used their funding for the Hacienda in Madchester, and promoted the Happy Mondays etc.. So I suppose they did really
Ah the Hacienda...happy memories of a couple of nights out there, although at the time I was having too much of a good time to remember anything.
The manager was Tony Wilson, the man who managed to lose money on New Orders Blue Monday the best selling 12 inch of all time by making the cover of the disc more expensive than the sale price....mad!
A great time which seemed to start off with the music of Joy Division. For anyone interested in that period a good film to watch is 24 Hour party people, which is based on Wilsons life during that era, with Steve Coogan playing Wilson, and covering the time from Joy Division, to the closure of the Hacienda.
Sorry a bit off topic!
Cracking film that.
I've notice human traffic is on love film....
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Erm yes, I am although to be fair to OD they do get credits on some of the songs along with the other composers. I've no idea which bits they wrote and there is no suggestion at all that they are vanity credits.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rami_Yacoub
Wow a music thread! Or was that something about the stadium?
Ok back on point because to get involved in the 80's music scene again for me is too good a memory.
people need to realise before they consider SISU would not build a stadium due to cost that such a stadium would most likely be built by a developer of a site. Money would pour in from all over. SISU's outlay would in fact be small. They would end up the owners with a mortgaged freehold property or even a 125 year lease. The projection for such a mortgage or lease is less than the 1.2m they were paying for renting the Ricoh pitch! This time the income of everything they do is theirs. beginning to make more sense?
For me though I still believe the part ownership or long lease interest in the Ricoh is the more viable option for them. But don't rule out a new stadium, far from it. The modular design is easy in concept and built to speed, can be increased in capacity during a close season.
Perhaps ACL need to realise they may have another stadium competing for business with them in a few years time and the football club would be the big headline grabber that ACL could not offer.
What I want is a sensible council work something out with the football club for the long term and offer SISU a clear exit strategy they could live with while the stadium is always in the football clubs hands whoever own the football club from time to time. In other words a clause that stipulates an owner can not sell the stadium interest without the football club.
Can we have some stocks on the hill or perhaps a gallows for a public hanging ?
Some intersting points there, but I'm not sure about money pouring in...
In any case, Joy herself said 40% equity, 60% debt.
On a £20m stadium that leaves £12m for the club to find.
Even at 3% p.a. that's £800,000 per year over 20 years if I've done my figures correctly.
Even without considering the losses that are currently mounting up, and the losses that are already there, that's a lot of money to find from a much smaller set of customers. Can't see how it works myself.
I don't believe it does make economic sense, but that doesn't mean that without a doubt it won't be built.
Basically let's wait and see rather than steaming in.
20,000 would be the ideal size
build it in modular form so that it can easily be increased if the need ever arises
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