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Nick

Administrator
  • Yesterday at 12:28 PM
  • #4,131
PVA said:
One wrote a tweet and one displayed a flag.

I'm not defending either of them. Some in here are.
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 12:36 PM
  • #4,132
Nick said:
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Yeah, thought so. As I expected.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Yesterday at 12:48 PM
  • #4,133
PVA said:
Yeah, thought so. As I expected.
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I still can't tell if you're actually being serious or not? The same as when you were going on about popping champagne when labour came in and acting like it was a new world.

Are you genuinely being serious?
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 12:51 PM
  • #4,134
Nick said:
I still can't tell if you're actually being serious or not? The same as when you were going on about popping champagne when labour came in and acting like it was a new world.

Are you genuinely being serious?
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I think they are both in the wrong and should be punished accordingly (one already has, of course), don't you?

If not, why not? What is the difference?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 1:31 PM
  • #4,135
PVA said:
I think they are both in the wrong and should be punished accordingly (one already has, of course), don't you?

If not, why not? What is the difference?
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Well one displayed the flag of an illegal terrorist organisation - and the other one didn’t
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Yesterday at 1:45 PM
  • #4,136
PVA said:
I think they are both in the wrong and should be punished accordingly (one already has, of course), don't you?

If not, why not? What is the difference?
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I clearly said they were both wrong. My point is the clear levels and trying to compare them.
 

Bugsy

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 1:53 PM
  • #4,137
Just wondering did his man ever get sent down for encouraging violent disorder?



Suspended Labour councillor arrested over video ‘urging people to cut throats’

Ricky Jones arrested after video showed him apparently calling for violence against ‘Nazi fascists’
www.theguardian.com
 

SIR ERNIE

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 1:58 PM
  • #4,138
Bugsy said:
Just wondering did his man ever get sent down for encouraging violent disorder?

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Suspended Labour councillor arrested over video ‘urging people to cut throats’

Ricky Jones arrested after video showed him apparently calling for violence against ‘Nazi fascists’
www.theguardian.com
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On the basis that Lucy Connolly got 31 months, he must surely have been given at least 10 years for a direct and explicit call to cut peoples throats.
Can't find anything though.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 2:03 PM
  • #4,139
SIR ERNIE said:
On the basis that Lucy Connolly got 31 months, he must surely have been given at least 10 years for a direct and explicit call to cut peoples throats.
Can't find anything though.
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If you put his name into Google it's the first result!

His trial is in August.
 

Bugsy

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 2:09 PM
  • #4,140
PVA said:
If you put his name into Google it's the first result!

His trial is in August.
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Why has it took so long?

I would wager that he gets away with it though.
 

fatso

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 2:12 PM
  • #4,141
SIR ERNIE said:
On the basis that Lucy Connolly got 31 months, he must surely have been given at least 10 years for a direct and explicit call to cut peoples throats.
Can't find anything though.
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You need to understand that there is now a 2 tier justice system in the UK.

There's also a 2 tier outrage system, whereby all those who were outraged by the post by Lucy Connolly and say she deserves to be in prison will now choose to completely ignore the call to murder by left wing former Labour councillor Ricky Jones !

It will be very interesting to go back through this thread and see who those posters are that were backing the prison term for Mrs Connolly, and let's just gauge their level of outrage over Mr Jones.

I mean the fact that one was the wife of a Tory and one a ex Labour councillor, will, I'm sure, have no bearing whatsoever.

Also the fact that one gets thrown in the cells before her feet can touch the ground, and one is going through the judicial system at the speed of a homeless snail, isn't relevant at all. Is it?
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Yesterday at 2:51 PM
  • #4,142
fatso said:
You need to understand that there is now a 2 tier justice system in the UK.

There's also a 2 tier outrage system, whereby all those who were outraged by the post by Lucy Connolly and say she deserves to be in prison will now choose to completely ignore the call to murder by left wing former Labour councillor Ricky Jones !

It will be very interesting to go back through this thread and see who those posters are that were backing the prison term for Mrs Connolly, and let's just gauge their level of outrage over Mr Jones.

I mean the fact that one was the wife of a Tory and one a ex Labour councillor, will, I'm sure, have no bearing whatsoever.

Also the fact that one gets thrown in the cells before her feet can touch the ground, and one is going through the judicial system at the speed of a homeless snail, isn't relevant at all. Is it?
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What? No one has ignored it and it was referenced on here.
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 2:51 PM
  • #4,143
fatso said:
You need to understand that there is now a 2 tier justice system in the UK.

There's also a 2 tier outrage system, whereby all those who were outraged by the post by Lucy Connolly and say she deserves to be in prison will now choose to completely ignore the call to murder by left wing former Labour councillor Ricky Jones !

It will be very interesting to go back through this thread and see who those posters are that were backing the prison term for Mrs Connolly, and let's just gauge their level of outrage over Mr Jones.

I mean the fact that one was the wife of a Tory and one a ex Labour councillor, will, I'm sure, have no bearing whatsoever.

Also the fact that one gets thrown in the cells before her feet can touch the ground, and one is going through the judicial system at the speed of a homeless snail, isn't relevant at all. Is it?
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I have no skin in this but whilst we might see the crimes comparable, the crux is that one plead guilty and the other not.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 2:58 PM
  • #4,144
Bugsy said:
Why has it took so long?

I would wager that he gets away with it though.
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It was due to start earlier this year but was delayed for 7 months.

No doubt at the instruction of 2 tier Kier!
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 3:38 PM
  • #4,145
Bugsy said:
Just wondering did his man ever get sent down for encouraging violent disorder?

View attachment 43318

Suspended Labour councillor arrested over video ‘urging people to cut throats’

Ricky Jones arrested after video showed him apparently calling for violence against ‘Nazi fascists’
www.theguardian.com
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He's on trial in August, it only took one Google search to establish this fact
 

Bugsy

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 4:44 PM
  • #4,146
fernandopartridge said:
He's on trial in August, it only took one Google search to establish this fact
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Yes, we have established that fact.
Now I am asking why has it took so long?
Why was it delayed can U find out for me please
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 4:47 PM
  • #4,147
Bugsy said:
Yes, we have established that fact.
Now I am asking why has it took so long?
Why was it delayed can U find out for me please
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Because we’ve had cuts to the justice system for 14 years and everything takes fucking ages. Connolly was done as part of the extra courts to get people prosecuted quickly as the riots were ongoing afaik. He wasn’t inciting ongoing violence so less rush to get him in front of a judge.
 
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Bugsy

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 4:52 PM
  • #4,148
shmmeee said:
Because we’ve had cuts to the justice system for 14 years and everything takes fucking ages. Connolly was done as part of the extra courts to get people prosecuted quickly as the riots were ongoing afaik. He wasn’t inciting ongoing violence so less rush to get him in front of a judge.
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Thank you, I was only wondering hence my 1st post on that.
 

fatso

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 5:04 PM
  • #4,149
rob9872 said:
I have no skin in this but whilst we might see the crimes comparable, the crux is that one plead guilty and the other not.
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That is a relevant fact, granted.
 

Gynnsthetonic

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 5:15 PM
  • #4,150
shmmeee said:
Because we’ve had cuts to the justice system for 14 years and everything takes fucking ages. Connolly was done as part of the extra courts to get people prosecuted quickly as the riots were ongoing afaik. He wasn’t inciting ongoing violence so less rush to get him in front of a judge.
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He wasn't inciting violence
 

Gynnsthetonic

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 5:22 PM
  • #4,151
shmmeee said:
Because we’ve had cuts to the justice system for 14 years and everything takes fucking ages. Connolly was done as part of the extra courts to get people prosecuted quickly as the riots were ongoing afaik. He wasn’t inciting ongoing violence so less rush to get him in front of a judge.
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What about the airport pair that got released from custody when hundreds of Muslims marched to the station demanding there release. When are they in court after causing actual bodily harm to two police officers. Still waiting
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 5:24 PM
  • #4,152
Gynnsthetonic said:
He wasn't inciting violence
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I didnt say that.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 5:25 PM
  • #4,153
Gynnsthetonic said:
What about the airport pair that got released from custody when hundreds of Muslims marched to the station demanding there release. When are they in court after causing actual bodily harm to two police officers. Still waiting
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30th June, they’re on bail until then.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 6:08 PM
  • #4,154
Bugsy said:
Why was it delayed can U find out for me please
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Gynnsthetonic said:
What about the airport pair that got released from custody when hundreds of Muslims marched to the station demanding there release. When are they in court
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It does sound a bit like you guys aren't being properly served by your current sources of news
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 8:02 PM
  • #4,155
Bugsy said:
Just wondering did his man ever get sent down for encouraging violent disorder?

View attachment 43318

Suspended Labour councillor arrested over video ‘urging people to cut throats’

Ricky Jones arrested after video showed him apparently calling for violence against ‘Nazi fascists’
www.theguardian.com
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Not yet the case hasn’t yet come to court. He has been in prison on remand funnily enough
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 8:03 PM
  • #4,156
Bugsy said:
Yes, we have established that fact.
Now I am asking why has it took so long?
Why was it delayed can U find out for me please
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You know he’s in prison don’t you can’t see if he still is
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Yesterday at 8:36 PM
  • #4,157
Sky Blue Pete said:
You know he’s in prison don’t you can’t see if he still is
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He’s on bail.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 9:46 PM
  • #4,158
Sick Boy said:
He’s on bail.
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Thank you
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 11:32 PM
  • #4,159
Bugsy said:
Yes, we have established that fact.
Now I am asking why has it took so long?
Why was it delayed can U find out for me please
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Because it takes time to gather evidence? What relevance does it have? If it takes longer to build a case with a better chance of conviction then surely better than rushing to trial
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Today at 10:28 AM
  • #4,160
fernandopartridge said:
Because it takes time to gather evidence? What relevance does it have? If it takes longer to build a case with a better chance of conviction then surely better than rushing to trial
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I mean it should only take 5 minutes, the video is obvious
 
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mmttww

Well-Known Member
  • Today at 11:06 AM
  • #4,161
SkyBlueDom26 said:
I mean it should only take 5 minutes...
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Court backlogs sorted! Dom's gonna get it done.
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Today at 11:14 AM
  • #4,162
SkyBlueDom26 said:
I mean it should only take 5 minutes, the video is obvious
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Yes, that's how the law works.
 
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MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Today at 12:53 PM
  • #4,163
Gynnsthetonic said:
He wasn't inciting violence
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Proposing the cutting of throats isn't inciting violence? Fucking disgusting view to express.


Two tiers here, if you don't agree fuck off
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Today at 12:54 PM
  • #4,164

Violent criminals could be let out early for good behaviour under new proposals

The landmark sentencing review calls for fewer custodial sentences and earlier prison releases.
www.bbc.co.uk

Two tiers here, if you don't agree fuck off.
 

mmttww

Well-Known Member
  • Today at 12:58 PM
  • #4,165
MalcSB said:
Two tiers here, if you don't agree fuck off
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He's going to trial. Where's the two tiers come in?
 
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