So now we know

zuni

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Didn't CCC actually come out and say it wasn't them earlier this week or am I dreaming that up..snakes
 

Magwitch

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But there’s telling the truth but not telling the whole truth and to me that seems to be the issue with all parties in this fiasco.
 

bradwellskyblues

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no they said they were not involved in the talks which may be true on the surface ,but what is now becoming clear they tell wasps what to do
 

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Boo Hiss - the council rears it’s ugly head once more!
Mist is clearing and everything is falling into place.
The people of Coventry need to vote this shower out at the next opportunity!!
 

CovUpNorth

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So can Gilbert back up his claims? Not that I’m doubting him, think it’s pretty obvious Wasps and CCC are in cohorts.
 
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Simon gilbert has just said on cwr that the indemnity is to protect our friends at CCC WHO ARE THE THIRD PARTY this allows wasps to say there is no indemnity for them
Just to be clear, Gilbert said CCC are not a party on the NDA, but are named in the indemnity that Wasps want CCFC/SISU to sign.

The parties on the NDA are Wasps, CCFC, Delaware North and Andy Street
 

Orca

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Did he say that? As a journalist he’d need to have the evidence to back that up
He didn't say or infer anything about whether the Council had asked for the indemnity. He did use the phrase off the record and that he'd heard it from more than one place. I'd suspect his sources are Boddy and Street.
 

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Just to be clear, Gilbert said CCC are not a party on the NDA, but are named in the indemnity that Wasps want CCFC/SISU to sign.

The parties on the NDA are Wasps, CCFC, Delaware North and Andy Street
Doesn’t he suggest they are rather than say categorically? He’s a bit more independent of the parties than other journalists though
 
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Orca

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This isn’t news?

We knew this already. It was blatantly obvious. Have I missed something?
Well it confirms a few things. People have had different points of view on whether the Council were on the NDA or not. We now know they're not. It had also been suggested Delaware were likely on it, and now we know they are
 
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Well it confirms a few things. People have had different points of view on whether the Council were on the NDA or not. We now know they're not. It had also been suggested Delaware were likely on it, and now we know they are
Oh not the NDA. That was always a red herring. But we knew Wasps wanted Sisu to halt legal action against anyone to do with the Ricoh, they’ve said as much Repeatedly. Why wouldn’t that include CCC? Seems blatantly obvious I’m confused why it’s a revelation?
 

shmmeee

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Makes wasps there’s too many parties line a little disingenuous
To be clear. Not on about the NDA. That was always a smokescreen and even if there were more parties wouldn’t have to have stopped Wasps and Sisu releasing what concerned only them

But people seem surprised the indemnity isn’t just against Wasps. That’s been the issue from the start since last year.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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Oh not the NDA. That was always a red herring. But we knew Wasps wanted Sisu to halt legal action against anyone to do with the Ricoh, they’ve said as much Repeatedly. Why wouldn’t that include CCC? Seems blatantly obvious I’m confused why it’s a revelation?
It’s also the likely remedy isn’t it if the state aid claim goes against ccc. Seems strange for any party to say to Sisu. If the authorities find me and my mate were at fault for something that negatively affected you then we would like you to cover this please. Um no thanks
 
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shmmeee

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It’s also the likely remedy isn’t it if the state aid claim goes against ccc. Seems strange for any party to say to Sisu. If the authorities find me and my mate were at fault for something that negatively affected you then we would like you to cover this please. Um no thanks
Sorry has this been confirmed? Because Wasps have repeatedly denied this and as I said I can’t see how it would work legally.
 

Orca

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Oh not the NDA. That was always a red herring. But we knew Wasps wanted Sisu to halt legal action against anyone to do with the Ricoh, they’ve said as much Repeatedly. Why wouldn’t that include CCC? Seems blatantly obvious I’m confused why it’s a revelation?
I think it clears up once and for all that the indemnity exists (after Wasps said it didn't) and now there is a definitive reason for the talks to have broken down. Maybe it's just me, but what I heard gave me more clarity, where before, there was some well founded speculation
 

Sky Blue Pete

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Sorry has this been confirmed? Because Wasps have repeatedly denied this and as I said I can’t see how it would work legally.
I haven’t heard simon so I don’t know if it has. I think it’s been suggested not confirmed
 

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To be clear. Not on about the NDA. That was always a smokescreen and even if there were more parties wouldn’t have to have stopped Wasps and Sisu releasing what concerned only them

But people seem surprised the indemnity isn’t just against Wasps. That’s been the issue from the start since last year.
I don't think it's a surprise to people on here, but there are still a lot of people who are hanging on everything Wasps say as the absolute truth, because apparently they don't have a history of lying (which is a bizarre claim in itself).
 

shmmeee

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What we need to know is the details of the indemnity. That’s been the argument for two years. Confirming the caterer is on the NDA doesn’t really mean much other than Wasps are hiding behind it. Which we knew because they could’ve released the indemnity details regardless.
 

djr8369

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Would it even be legal for the council to strong arm wasps into holding us hostage in order to grant them protection from legal processes? If it is it seems it would at least be unethical and against the code of conduct for elected officials. If so then you’d think there would be a route of complaint/appeal which SISU would have pursued?
 
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Orca

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Im lost. What exactly has been confirmed?
Talks broke down as CCFC couldn't sign an indemnity that prevented them from suing CCC in the future. The indemnity didn't include Wasps.

I guess much of this was known, but for me it clears up the conflicting statements of Wasps and CCFC about indemnity.
 
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