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djr8369

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  • Jun 30, 2023
  • #526
GIMOC said:
posting bollocks? I’ve heard robins isn’t happy how true is that I don’t know. I can’t back up why I’ve heard hes unhappy.
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He’s clearly responding specifically to the point about Boddy because you put it here as an ITK yet are also saying it’s common knowledge.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 30, 2023
  • #527
Sky Blue Pete said:
I’m not saying we were or we weren’t
I’m saying to suggest that the only people who’ve done anything good in the last 5 years when we’ve risen from League 2 to the play off final for the premier league are Mark Robins and Adj Viveash and that nothing done by any other staff or the owner made any difference other than negative is wrong
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I get you probably get on well with Mark and Tynan but this revisionist history is fucking weird.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 30, 2023
  • #528
David O'Day said:
I get you probably get on well with Mark and Tynan but this revisionist history is fucking weird.
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No point discussing it
I’m not mates with anyone mark out of them all has done and is doing an excellent job
Both of those have always responded well to any challenge and questions but as for being friends with anyone - don’t be stupid
 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 30, 2023
  • #529
Sky Blue Pete said:
No point discussing it
I’m not mates with anyone mark out of them all has done and is doing an excellent job
Both of those have always responded well to any challenge and questions but as for being friends with anyone - don’t be stupid
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so why are you rewriting history? it's really weird
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 30, 2023
  • #530
David O'Day said:
so why are you rewriting history? it's really weird
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I’m not
 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 30, 2023
  • #531
Sky Blue Pete said:
I’m not
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OK Pete, whatever you say
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 30, 2023
  • #532
Ok david whatever you say
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 30, 2023
  • #533
I’m not ITK. I have however read most of this post (skipped a few pages…).

The central premise seems to be that DK is a control freak micro manager (my paraphrasing) who has pissed off many people within and around the club.

That may well be true, I have no idea.

What I don’t get is that given he has been in charge since January, why it has taken so long for the rumblings of discontent to emerge.

Is it that he didn’t start that way, but decided to change his approach once he felt he had a good view of how the club was being run?

Or, is it too cynical to wonder if nothing would have been heard without the corporate price increases? (Declaration of interest, I have tickets in the Legends - I prefer the old prices, but have paid the new ones).

So, is this a storm in a teacup or is the club about to implode?
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jun 30, 2023
  • #534
Sky Blue Pete said:
Ok david whatever you say
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Mate, you are the one weirdly pretending the club was well run
 

usskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 30, 2023
  • #535
Woke up this morning..

 
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edgy

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  • Jun 30, 2023
  • #536
DazzleTommyDazzle said:
I’m not ITK. I have however read most of this post (skipped a few pages…).

The central premise seems to be that DK is a control freak micro manager (my paraphrasing) who has pissed off many people within and around the club.

That may well be true, I have no idea.

What I don’t get is that given he has been in charge since January, why it has taken so long for the rumblings of discontent to emerge.

Is it that he didn’t start that way, but decided to change his approach once he felt he had a good view of how the club was being run?

Or, is it too cynical to wonder if nothing would have been heard without the corporate price increases? (Declaration of interest, I have tickets in the Legends - I prefer the old prices, but have paid the new ones).

So, is this a storm in a teacup or is the club about to implode?
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Storm in a Tea Cup.

Short story is, some corporate folk have had their nose put out of place.
 
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Garlana86

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  • Jun 30, 2023
  • #537
Just putting out a wishful thinking and optimistic possibility based on absolutely nothing.. but perhaps all the new signings we're getting are going to be unveiled in a mega kit release which includes Hamer and a load of centre backs and strikers donning the new outfit...
 
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djr8369

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  • Jun 30, 2023
  • #538
edgy said:
Storm in a Tea Cup.

Short story is, some corporate folk have had their nose put out of place.
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Is that your assessment based on what you’ve read here or have you spoken to people?
 

alexccfc99

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  • Jun 30, 2023
  • #539
Ccfcisparks said:
Tell me Pete, what behind the scenes has been an overwhelming positive in the last 5 years that the board can be pleased with?
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Appointing Robins and Adi and letting them get on with it instead of forcing clowns like Anderson, Igwe, Delieu etc. on them

The club did manage to rebuild most of it’s bridges in the local community once again as well - Albeit they were burned by the same people that rebuilt them
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 30, 2023
  • #540
alexccfc99 said:
Appointing Robins and Adi and letting them get on with it instead of forcing clowns like Anderson, Igwe, Delieu etc. on them

The club did manage to rebuild most of it’s bridges in the local community once again as well - Albeit they were burned by the same people that rebuilt them
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Viveash was only appointed by circumstances really

Our “success” was largely built by selling two players in a way that provided a budget to transact which became viable as we were at low levels
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 30, 2023
  • #541
Sky Blue Pete said:
Sisu not having any money to put in last season following the pitch debacle led to the sale both of Hyam (not admitted by the club) and ultimately sale of club shouldn’t negate the previous 4 and a half
No bootlicking from me just an acceptance of people working hard and doing their best
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That 4 and a half years was a result of the shit the same people put us in. Dropping us down to League two to get us back up to where we should be shouldn’t be held as a success.

also I’d work hard for the club wouldn’t justify hiring me would it
 

alexccfc99

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  • Jun 30, 2023
  • #542
Grendel said:
Viveash was only appointed by circumstances really

Our “success” was largely built by selling two players in a way that provided a budget to transact which became viable as we were at low levels
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Not doubting any of that
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 30, 2023
  • #543
Garlana86 said:
Mate of mine who supports Birmingham won't shut up about their new rich owners and the multiple signings they've made already...it's going to be insufferable this season if we don't get someone decent in to calm my nerves! The likes of Boro, Sunderland and Birmingham will be licking their lips looking for revenge for last season, all of which have made decent moves already or who have kept their star players.
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That can’t be right - surely all the players are on holiday, don’t Birmingham know this?
 

edgy

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  • Jun 30, 2023
  • #544
djr8369 said:
Is that your assessment based on what you’ve read here or have you spoken to people?
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Based on what I've read on this topic, what I've read on other topics and my brilliant power of subliminal perception.
 
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djr8369

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  • Jun 30, 2023
  • #545
edgy said:
Based on what I've read on this topic, what I've read on other topics and my brilliant power of subliminal perception.
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It’s basically what I was thinking just wondered if you’d heard anything yourself.
 
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djr8369

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  • Jun 30, 2023
  • #546
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
That can’t be right - surely all the players are on holiday, don’t Birmingham know this?
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They are back for preseason. Assume we are starting a bit late due to playoffs.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 30, 2023
  • #547
Ccfcisparks said:
Because they realise they are incompetent. A criticism of King is that he is not a footballing man, but the previous board were footballing people, yet took a back seat on it because they added no value.
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Didn't stop McGinnity and Robinson interfering!

A strength of management is delegating to those with specialisms. I can handle King interfering if he thinks those currently in post have no specialisms. If he does the same with their replacements, things won't be good however.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jun 30, 2023
  • #548
Deleted member 5849 said:
Didn't stop McGinnity and Robinson interfering!

A strength of management is delegating to those with specialisms. I can handle King interfering if he thinks those currently in post have no specialisms. If he does the same with their replacements, things won't be good however.
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and theres no evidence to suggest he wont trust the replacements so far.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 30, 2023
  • #549
Ccfcisparks said:
and theres no evidence to suggest he wont trust the replacements so far.
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Where did I say there was?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 30, 2023
  • #550
Sky Blue Pete said:
Wow ok. I’ll take that from you as a balanced fellow fan who I respect. You’d give no credit for anything elsewhere? Is that right?
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Not no credit. I’m sure people have done good things. But it’s all a drop in the ocean compared to dragging us from a L2 club to a Championship one and reuniting the fans and players.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 30, 2023
  • #551
shmmeee said:
Not no credit. I’m sure people have done good things. But it’s all a drop in the ocean compared to dragging us from a L2 club to a Championship one and reuniting the fans and players.
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Ok
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jun 30, 2023
  • #552
Deleted member 5849 said:
Where did I say there was?
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Sorry never said you did, was just adding comment.
 

Finham

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  • Jun 30, 2023
  • #553
shmmeee said:
Yeah I’ve got concerns too. Mostly around how badly organised everything still seems to be and how we seem to be just as skint as ever. But a lot of the explicit complaints seem to be “X person thinks they’re much more special than they’re being treated” and frankly that doesn’t butter many parsnips with me.

Stuff like corporate sales and signings well see how it pans out.
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I'd like this twice if I could, partly as it's a good point well said but mainly because of butter my parsnips.
 
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Finham

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  • Jun 30, 2023
  • #554
SBT said:
Coventry City FC Ltd can announce that a takeover has been agreed by a consortium of Gibbo, Burnsy, Cheeks, Morty, Ricey and Josh
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This reminds me of the soldiers you get in the classic game Cannon Fodder, and to a lesser extent, Cannon Fodder 2. Jopps was a legend.
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Jun 30, 2023
  • #555
Senior Vick from Alicante said:
Fans are divided because posters who say they are in the know, repeat unfounded gossip on the forum to get likes and that then snowballs. The bloke is six months in to ownership of a business that's been a fucking basket case for the last 20 years, which he is trying to sort. You don't turn a ship round by being kind to disaffected employees who don't want to excel and insist on the status quo. The same goes for fans who complain about having it too good for too long with cheap boxes, if you want a club capable of challenging in the top six you cant do it by giving out cheap boxes and complementary tickets, it worked for Wasps right? The club needed root and branch reform to make it capable of being in the top 6 and if that means we loose employees along the way its because they are not of the right calibre then so be it. What we need to do is all calm down and wait for next week when the real work starts. PUSB.
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We'll said sir.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jun 30, 2023
  • #556
DazzleTommyDazzle said:
I’m not ITK. I have however read most of this post (skipped a few pages…).

The central premise seems to be that DK is a control freak micro manager (my paraphrasing) who has pissed off many people within and around the club.

That may well be true, I have no idea.

What I don’t get is that given he has been in charge since January, why it has taken so long for the rumblings of discontent to emerge.

Is it that he didn’t start that way, but decided to change his approach once he felt he had a good view of how the club was being run?

Or, is it too cynical to wonder if nothing would have been heard without the corporate price increases? (Declaration of interest, I have tickets in the Legends - I prefer the old prices, but have paid the new ones).

So, is this a storm in a teacup or is the club about to implode?
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Probably manifesting itself now because DK can implement stuff like pricing which he couldn't do mid-season.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jun 30, 2023
  • #557
Sky Blue Pete said:
Why are you and many others so binary?????????
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For the 101z
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 30, 2023
  • #558
Season ticket sales are a huge positive!!!
 
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SBT

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  • Jun 30, 2023
  • #559
GIMOC said:
has king upset the corporate lot. Of course, is there a WhatsApp group putting pressure on king of course. Will we know more today, I believe so.
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Narrator: We didn't know more today
 
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Finham

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  • Jun 30, 2023
  • #560
SBT said:
Narrator: We didn't know more today
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If we can just get Ron Howard to read it...
 
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