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SISU Statement - Article From Sky Sports (1 Viewer)

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Otis

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  • Mar 13, 2019
  • #176
Nick said:
The rugby club owner submitted a proposal including ccfc which then prompted that response from the council referred to.
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Yeah, but that's not what I am saying. Cov rugby are developing the Butts anyway. We just tried to piggyback on to that.
 
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letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2019
  • #177
I want to believe.

I just cant think of anywhere in Cov they can build a stadium?
Lots of sites on the outskirts but all within Warwickshire, loads of land up by me but none of it in Coventry.

Wont be holding my breath just yet, funny how they waited untill the 11th hour before the big meeting tomorrow.

Should be an easy decision for wasps drop legals play at the Ricoh as asked.
Dont honestly know if the council can help if no land is available, unless they Sisu after funding?

Suppose the only viable option is a ground share developement at the Butts but that would need CRFC on board.
 
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Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2019
  • #178
EXCLUSIVE: This leaked email reveals council bid to block Coventry City F.C Butts groundshare
 

Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2019
  • #179
shmmeee said:
Are there any Facebook groups that this isn’t true for? Jesus the Labour forum is an absolute sewer.
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I've heard the ERG whatsapp group is mostly in very polite Latin. :cigar:
(sorry couldn't resist)
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 13, 2019
  • #180
shmmeee said:
Name the fans. Name what “PR” they’re pushing.

You’re just assuming everyone who disagrees with you must be doing it for conspiratorial reasons and not just that different people see things differently.

Show me evidence that these fans have the intentions you claim. Otherwise it’s just you saying shit. Nothing proven.
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Jimmy hill way for starters, sorry to bring him into it but your dad as well. Add to that the bloke on the trust board. The telegraph.

That's before the fake accounts made

Lots of people disagree with me, I don't say it about the massive majority of them.

Why have I been proven right multiple times when I call it?

Can you really not see how obvious it has been? Its embarrassing.
 
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luwalla

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2019
  • #181
GaryJones said:
I like the fact that SISU have issued this open statement. Whilst nothing was coming from SISU all we could do was guess what the situation was and usually blame SISU for ALL of our ills.
Ive been calling for SISU to issue some response and now they have, I have developed some sympathy and a greater understanding of what theyve been up against.
Seems to me that they have been well and truely shafted by our very own Coventry Council who took it upon themselves to wage a personal vendetta against SISU and in turn CCFC.
Ive always had the opinion that the worst and most heinous crime amongst all that has happened was selling the Ricoh to the Wasps. I despise the council for this and in turn despise the interlopers from London too!
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Yep agreed... the council / higgs have a pretty much free run for years & able to say what they want and throw the 'Big Bad SISU' line at everything, as SISU just never commented. Now they have broken that & gone right back to pre-ricoh with their uncoverings.

Its both very telling , and pretty much what i thought.

Dont get me wrong, SISU have done a lot wrong, but they are investment company / not football people! and they certainly didnt help themselves throwing timmy F out with his spin on things , making everything worse.. but i truly believe thos that damaged the club the most are the council & higgs , and it seems it was all pretty carefully planned too.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2019
  • #182
Liquid Gold said:
EXCLUSIVE: This leaked email reveals council bid to block Coventry City F.C Butts groundshare
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That’s the sort of thing I’m on about. Hadn’t seen that, thank you.

That’s not on and we should be making a noise about it. If CRFC are happy to lease to us then they should be allowed to (assuming it’s OK with police, etc).

A specific action we can request, and it only took eleventy billion and two requests. See Nick? not hard.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 13, 2019
  • #183
shmmeee said:
That’s the sort of thing I’m on about. Hadn’t seen that, thank you.

That’s not on and we should be making a noise about it. If CRFC are happy to lease to us then they should be allowed to (assuming it’s OK with police, etc).

A specific action we can request, and it only took eleventy billion and two requests. See Nick? not hard.
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I assumed you knew? Hence I kept mentioning the butts.

Sorry I thought you would be clued up rather then blindly telling me I'm wrong to defend them.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2019
  • #184
Nick said:
Jimmy hill way for starters, sorry to bring him into it but your dad as well. Add to that the bloke on the trust board. The telegraph.

That's before the fake accounts made

Lots of people disagree with me, I don't say it about the massive majority of them.

Why have I been proven right multiple times when I call it?

Can you really not see how obvious it has been? Its embarrassing.
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No that’s fine. I’ve spoken about Dad before and wouldn’t be surprised if he’s been posting shit. As I’ve said, I’ve directly asked about a conspiracy and am happy with the answer. He could be lying to me, I’ve yet to see proof.

People hating Sisu isn’t the same as people secretly pushing PR though. The case you’ve made is there’s a conspiracy between fans and the council to get new owners in. I’ve yet to see proof of that.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2019
  • #185
Nick said:
I assumed you knew? Hence I kept mentioning the butts.
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No. My knowledge is spotty. Hence the “plying naive” as you say. I avoided all this crap for about a year because it was getting to me.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 13, 2019
  • #186
shmmeee said:
No that’s fine. I’ve spoken about Dad before and wouldn’t be surprised if he’s been posting shit. As I’ve said, I’ve directly asked about a conspiracy and am happy with the answer. He could be lying to me, I’ve yet to see proof.

People hating Sisu isn’t the same as people secretly pushing PR though. The case you’ve made is there’s a conspiracy between fans and the council to get new owners in. I’ve yet to see proof of that.
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Lots of people hate sisu, I don't say it about all of them, far from it. Particular ones at particular times.
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2019
  • #187
Nick said:
Jimmy hill way for starters, sorry to bring him into it but your dad as well. Add to that the bloke on the trust board. The telegraph.

That's before the fake accounts made

Lots of people disagree with me, I don't say it about the massive majority of them.

Why have I been proven right multiple times when I call it?

Can you really not see how obvious it has been? Its embarrassing.
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Wow so 3 people.
But why is it embarrassing just pushing what they believe, no differant to you.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 13, 2019
  • #188
letsallsingtogether said:
Wow so 3 people.
But why is it embarrassing just pushing what they believe, no differant to you.
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12,000 word articles, trying to get in the media with things they have made up or have no clue about, trying to make their own twitter network to mislead.

I'm sorry you have to hear your mates have agendas other than ccfc.

I'm sure there will be more
 

Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2019
  • #189
Sky Blue Harry H said:
I'm with Otis (which is worrying). SISU/CCFC need to be saying where the site(s) is/are and formally approach the Council. They can't expect to say 'find us a site' as it presupposes they haven't looked for a viable option. If they mean what they have stated, they need to follow up with some visible next steps to show that this is not merely a political/tactical/theoretical positioning with no real substance with regards to a new stadium (and yes, we have been shafted, but we need to get over that - think Sunderland and the Bristol City game)
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Well the EFL regs. say specifically that the EFL must be notified at the earliest possible opportunity about any new stadium proposals.

So if there has been any surely SISU can trust the EFL to assess that the sites are realistic, verify there has been some negotiation with the site owners to purchase whilst keeping the locations strictly confidential. If they can make a statement covering those bases I would be more inclined to believe SISU.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2019
  • #190
Are people really going to fall for this SISU want to build a new ground nonsense again? It was only a few weeks ago that plan A was always stay at the Ricoh and now we’re back onto a Plan A build a new ground again. Anyone buying this is either extremely gullible or have very short memories. We’ve been here before. Yet again it’s SISU doing the same things expecting different results.
 
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Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2019
  • #191
letsallsingtogether said:
Wow so 3 people.
But why is it embarrassing just pushing what they believe, no differant to you.
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The Jimmy Hills Way account has even less credibility than Joy Seppala.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 13, 2019
  • #192
skybluetony176 said:
Are people really going to fall for this SISU want to build a new ground nonsense again? It was only a few weeks ago that plan A was always stay at the Ricoh and now we’re back onto a Plan A build a new ground again. Anyone buying this is either extremely gullible or have very short memories. We’ve been here before. Yet again it’s SISU doing the same things expecting different results.
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Not a single person is planning their seat.

This is where the council call their bluff, which is what is being said.....
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 13, 2019
  • #193
Ian1779 said:
The Jimmy Hills Way account has even less credibility than Joy Seppala.
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Don't upset him by pointing out nobody takes his mate seriously.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2019
  • #194
Nick said:
Not a single person is planning their seat.

This is where the council call their bluff, which is what is being said.....
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Which like I said. Doing the same things expecting different results. Aren’t you tired of expecting everyone else to call SISU’s bluff yet? I don’t think it’s too much to expect them to play with a straight bat instead of going around and around in the same circles going it’s alright, it’s up to everyone else to call their bluff. Being a CCFC fan really shouldn’t be that difficult. Why you continually give them a pass by insisting that it’s up to everyone else to call them out is beyond me. You’re willing to complicate the relationship of a fan with their club for a hedge fund and that’s completely baffling.
 
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Otis

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  • Mar 13, 2019
  • #195
Nick said:
Not a single person is planning their seat.

This is where the council call their bluff, which is what is being said.....
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Well I sincerely hope they do. They certainly need to respond.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 13, 2019
  • #196
skybluetony176 said:
Which like I said. Doing the same things expecting different results. Aren’t you tired of expecting everyone else to call SISU’s bluff yet? I don’t think it’s too much to expect them to play with a straight bat instead of going around and around in the same circles going it’s alright, it’s up to everyone else to call their bluff. Being a CCFC fan really shouldn’t be that difficult. Why you continually give them a pass by insisting that it’s up to everyone else to call them out is beyond me. You’re willing to complicate the relationship of a fan with their club for a hedge fund and that’s completely baffling.
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Who is giving them a pass? I want them to be called out.

Its not be worried about ccc calling their bluff. It would certainly clear a few things up.

Why are you trying to preach about a relationship between a fan and their club?
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2019
  • #197
Nick said:
12,000 word articles, trying to get in the media with things they have made up or have no clue about, trying to make their own twitter network to mislead.

I'm sorry you have to hear your mates have agendas other than ccfc.

I'm sure there will be more
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It is no differant to you nick you must have written 100s of anti trust replies on multiple threads and accusing these people of not having CCFC at heart why else would they bother if they didn't.
Well I know Dave quite well and he only has CCFC at heart, just sees the situation differently to you
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2019
  • #198
The Ricoh is far too big for Wasps. How many times do they fill it, bearing in mind they are a top premiership side ?
If they are going to stay around they should build a smaller 20,000 stadium and hand over the Ricoh to us. I'm sure the council could help.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2019
  • #199
Nick said:
Who is giving them a pass? I want them to be called out.

Its not be worried about ccc calling their bluff. It would certainly clear a few things up.

Why are you trying to preach about a relationship between a fan and their club?
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That’s giving them a pass.

Why don’t you expect SISU to call CCC’s bluff by finding some land and putting plans in? Again. A pass.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2019
  • #200
I've hinted that I thought this was the case for a long time:

The Higgs Charity had previously provided a loan to the Club in order to finance player acquisitions. During the 2000/01 season, the Charity called in the loan early, which was not due for repayment until 2003. The Club was unable to repay, and so were forced to give up their share in ACL (and consequently any access to their match-day revenues) to pay off the loan. The Club’s Board noted in their Board meeting minutes on 3 December 2003 that they were unable to afford legal advice at this time, despite both ACL and the Council each using teams of advisors.
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Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 13, 2019
  • #201
letsallsingtogether said:
It is no differant to you nick you must have written 100s of anti trust replies on multiple threads and accusing these people of not having CCFC at heart why else would they bother if they didn't.
Well I know Dave quite well and he only has CCFC at heart, just sees the situation differently to you
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Maybe knowing him blinds your judgment then? The same as when I had to point out to you who from the trust was boycotting and who was behind the twitter accounts?

He has ccfc at heart but didn't go to games for a completely made up reason that didn't exist?
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2019
  • #202
Ian1779 said:
The Jimmy Hills Way account has even less credibility than Joy Seppala.
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Wouldn't know I dont read it just wait for it to be posted on here.
Be nice if Joy actually had an account though.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 13, 2019
  • #203
skybluetony176 said:
That’s giving them a pass.

Why don’t you expect SISU to call CCC’s bluff by finding some land and putting plans in? Again. A pass.
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They have called their bluff offering to drop the legals.

We have already seen the council try to block the butts.

Why so scared for the council to say "let's do it?"
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 13, 2019
  • #204
letsallsingtogether said:
Wouldn't know I dont read it just wait for it to be posted on here.
Be nice if Joy actually had an account though.
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Maybe you should read it. You won't look as silly then when you blindly defend
 
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4waspsting

Active Member
  • Mar 13, 2019
  • #205
Will the council fund the project as SISU are in no state to fund a PIE SHOP... wasps must be thinking why dont they put the money in the Ricoh for half ownership
 

Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2019
  • #206
Terry Gibson's perm said:
I was surprised that the Higgs “charity” had loaned the club money to buy players.
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Before SISU took over. They are laying some blame on events that happened prior to their ownership but all that says to me is they did not do due diligence properly.
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2019
  • #207
Nick said:
Maybe knowing him blinds your judgment then? The same as when I had to point out to you who from the trust was boycotting and who was behind the twitter accounts?

He has ccfc at heart but didn't go to games for a completely made up reason that didn't exist?
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Funny how some those you pointed out were boycotting have been going up Dave sat with us last night, and your other mate was there on Friday, he was holding up the banner.
 
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rondog1973

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2019
  • #208
Nick said:
Not a single person is planning their seat.

This is where the council call their bluff, which is what is being said.....
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Few on here on a quixotic site suggesting charge already mind...
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 13, 2019
  • #209
4waspsting said:
Will the council fund the project as SISU are in no state to fund a PIE SHOP... wasps must be thinking why dont they put the money in the Ricoh for half ownership
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Welcome back!
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 13, 2019
  • #210
letsallsingtogether said:
Funny how some those you pointed out were boycotting have been going up Dave sat with us last night, and your other mate was there on Friday, he was holding up the banner.
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So he was lying in an interview then? Strange.

Need to make up minds about these morals
 
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