TomRad85
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Yep, it's all stuff we've gone over many times before tbf but does my head in every time.
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Yep, it's all stuff we've gone over many times before tbf but does my head in every time.Because fans don’t like players who subtly contribute and recycle the ball. Hamer is loved as he stands out with his Hollywood balls and long range efforts (and on the whole he is another level!). Sheaf sits slightly deeper but can have a positive influence on the game.
It also doesn’t help that Sheaf has quite a languid and ponderous style - not dissimilar from Kelly - which can give the wrong impression.
And to be fair he has made a few high profile mistakes, which unfortunately stick in the memory and overshadow the good stuff.
Sick of it, get him out. Barton just became available.Robbing said b4 Millwall the fucking liar.
If you want to get rid of him you would say that?
It’s known he’s not the type of player the manager likes another reason hIf you want to get rid of him you would say that?
With all that in mind, why do fans love Liam Kelly?Because fans don’t like players who subtly contribute and recycle the ball. Hamer is loved as he stands out with his Hollywood balls and long range efforts (and on the whole he is another level!). Sheaf sits slightly deeper but can have a positive influence on the game.
It also doesn’t help that Sheaf has quite a languid and ponderous style - not dissimilar from Kelly - which can give the wrong impression.
And to be fair he has made a few high profile mistakes, which unfortunately stick in the memory and overshadow the good stuff.
With all that in mind, why do fans love Liam Kelly?
With all that in mind, why do fans love Liam Kelly?
Karanka would say that wouldn't he if he wants rid of him
The idea that he must be telling the truth and managers don't lie is equally ridiculous.Not necessarily. He could just not say anything at all or divert and follow a different narrative. He wasn't specifically questioned about Crowley's attitude, he was asked the simple question of whether or not he thought he was likely to leave.
The idea that he must be lying because he wants rid is just complete speculation and slightly ridiculous in my opinion.
The idea that he must be telling the truth and managers don't lie is equally ridiculous.
All managers do it, it's very rare you get a manager come out and slam a player publicly. On the rare occasions it happens it is usually where the club wants to keep the player and is looking to get a positive reaction out of the player.
It's the typical sound bite from a manager, truth is that all managers are lying probably 40-60% of the time when they come and say so and so is a great professional with a superb attitude and bla bla bla
or unless the manager is called JoseThe idea that he must be telling the truth and managers don't lie is equally ridiculous.
All managers do it, it's very rare you get a manager come out and slam a player publicly. On the rare occasions it happens it is usually where the club wants to keep the player and is looking to get a positive reaction out of the player.
It's the typical sound bite from a manager, truth is that all managers are lying probably 40-60% of the time when they come and say so and so is a great professional with a superb attitude and bla bla bla
Is he likely to be a freebie?
The thing about our current squad is we have a lot of similar playersKaranka's comments from Birmingham Live today r.e. Crowley. Sometimes managers just don't like to use certain types players and vice versa as it conflicts with their preferred playing style and set-up.
“He is a really good professional and he deserves to be helped.
“I don’t think it is the quality, it’s nothing against him, the opposite, everything I can say about him is good things.
"But it is something that I prefer to play with other players – just like this.”
Also he was unfortunate as Doyle was the chosen one star recruit that summer. But it was the same with McNulty that season too.They didn’t at first, he was criticised a lot in League 2. On here anyway
The thing about our current squad is we have a lot of similar players
Decent, hard working with good attitudes but not likely to do things that bring you out of your seat
The whole league knows that our main outlets to make things happen are O'Hare and to a slightly lesser extent Hamer
I can imagine their team talks before playing us being all out stopping those two playing
Even when Giles is playing he's quick and talented but fairly predictable once you've seen him play a few times
It appears that this lad Crowley could bring a bit of creativity and keep opponents guessing on what he's going to do when he gets the ball which is just what we need really
Definitely notCan we take this post as confirmation you’ve now heard something too, and therefore we can all get excited?!
They paid £750k 18 months ago. I suspect they'll want to get most of that back.
He’s out of contract in the summer but they have an option for another year...£500k would do it I imagine but then wages ? He’s on 12k a week ?They paid £750k 18 months ago. I suspect they'll want to get most of that back.
Sounds like a sales pitch to get rid of himKaranka's comments from Birmingham Live today r.e. Crowley. Sometimes managers just don't like to use certain types players and vice versa as it conflicts with their preferred playing style and set-up.
“He is a really good professional and he deserves to be helped.
“I don’t think it is the quality, it’s nothing against him, the opposite, everything I can say about him is good things.
"But it is something that I prefer to play with other players – just like this.”
He’s out of contract in the summer but they have an option for another year...£500k would do it I imagine but then wages ? He’s on 12k a week ?
Wages will be the issuekaranka has literally said he is free to leave we won’t be paying anywhere near that.
Mind you wasn't that another young star in the making I saw playing there - Ben, what was his name now?Scored against us but then again, who hasn’t?
To drum up interest and get him off the wage bill at brumI didn't say they never lie?
Again, your entire point is complete speculation. Attempting to prove your tin foil hat argument with garbage statistics doesn't make it any more accurate. What does Karanka gain from saying he's a good kid and trains well?
Crowley would be an extra option to play in midfield as cover/competition for Allen, O’Hare & Shipley. It would also free up Allen or Hamer to play a deeper role but still have a good passer in our midfield, A player like Clarke or Mendez-Laing would be a replacement for Jones, Kasteneer & Jobello. It would let us loan out a few fringe players to get game time.
The comparison with Bright is not necessarily positive. He was a lovely player to watch, and scored a couple of good goals, but I thought he pulled the midfield out of shape. It ceased being a team, and became all about him. So, for all Robins ability to get results out of difficult players, I would beware.
The thing about our current squad is we have a lot of similar players
Decent, hard working with good attitudes but not likely to do things that bring you out of your seat
The whole league knows that our main outlets to make things happen are O'Hare and to a slightly lesser extent Hamer
I can imagine their team talks before playing us being all out stopping those two playing
Even when Giles is playing he's quick and talented but fairly predictable once you've seen him play a few times
It appears that this lad Crowley could bring a bit of creativity and keep opponents guessing on what he's going to do when he gets the ball which is just what we need really
12k per week makes him a contractual liability if they have no intent on ever playing him.He’s out of contract in the summer but they have an option for another year...£500k would do it I imagine but then wages ? He’s on 12k a week ?
If this lockdown comes in and football stops I don’t see anyone coming in12k per week makes him a contractual liability if they have no intent on ever playing him.
He can sit around and cost £300k-£400k (with ni and ins and bits and bobs) or they can release him for a sell-on-fee clause and maybe contribute a bit towards his wages.
Ie.
Cov sign him on a free with a sell on
Cov pay, say, 8k/ week.
B’ham pay a lump to Crowley to make up for the 4K/week shortfall on his contract.
just a guess.
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