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Significant Council announcement on Ricoh coming (1 Viewer)

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Deleted member 4439

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  • Jan 14, 2014
  • #211
Looks significant to me: the talking is over, and we (ACL) are now working towards the future on that basis. SISU are ****ed. Clarke and Moussa on the way out: the implosion has now really begun.
 
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Huckerby

Guest
  • Jan 14, 2014
  • #212
skyblueindorset said:
Sat through God knows how much council waffle to hear a statement that didn't say anything new.:facepalm:
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cracked me up mate :claping hands:
 
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Monners

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 14, 2014
  • #213
Stafford_SkBlue said:
No explanation why no agreement on CVA causing 10 point deduction - that is what Councils do best

Who put "significant" in the title - looks like no news to me
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The CVA has been well documented.

Not relevant to the Lucas statement, but why no factual info on the "new stadium". You suffer from acute myopia when it comes to the issues with our club.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 14, 2014
  • #214
shmmeee said:
Keep seeing this, but I don't understand.

Last missive from the council was "blah blah blah, if we haven't heard anything from Sisu after Christmas we're moving on".

This is "We've had no contact, we're moving on"

Don't see how that's not saying anything new. Maybe we all assumed they'd move on, but surely confirmation is hardly "no news".

Would be like saying when Sisu announce the ground location "Well, nothing new here, we knew they were going to build a ground".
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PWKH has been in the media quite and on here a few times in the last 2-3 months and said that ACL have moved on and are set to thrive without the football club.

The Nii Lamptey interview with with council officials said that they don't sell assets.

Nothing was ever going to happen before the JR.

To me, it's just like any political statement, it says a lot without saying a lot.


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TakeMeHomeHighfieldRoad

New Member
  • Jan 14, 2014
  • #215
When is this Judicial review taking place? Havent heard nothing since it was put up for review in November...
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 14, 2014
  • #216
TakeMeHomeHighfieldRoad said:
When is this Judicial review taking place? Havent heard nothing since it was put up for review in November...
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May............
 

sw88

Chief Commentator!
  • Jan 14, 2014
  • #217
The first part made me laugh a bit; "continue our transformation to become a truly competitive city - not just on a national stage but on an international one, too."

We're a long way off being a competitive City on the international stage, especially since the motoring industry left us.

I'm not surprised to see them moving on. In a way, I'm glad they've made this stance. I just hope SISU / OTIUM continue to take theirs with their intentions. Wouldnt be surprised to see the Ricoh become an outdoor exhibition centre now; an outside version of the NEC solely for concerts etc, which I think the model was always based on; never as a football stadium

Ps, just heard a clip on the radio. Nice to hear Dierdre Barlow doing the narrating for Anne
 
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ecky

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 14, 2014
  • #218
wingy said:
May............
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Could be all too late by then......
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 14, 2014
  • #219
stupot07 said:
PWKH has been in the media quite and on here a few times in the last 2-3 months and said that ACL have moved on and are set to thrive without the football club.

The Nii Lamptey interview with with council officials said that they don't sell assets.

Nothing was ever going to happen before the JR.

To me, it's just like any political statement, it says a lot without saying a lot.


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CCC aren't ACL. Not heard the Nii Lamptey interview, but that's always been the case that the council don't sell land they lease it (probably why Joy is asking for that).

This is just a statement, to the entire council, that as of now we're not spending any more time on it. Not that we'll be OK, or that we might move on later. But that's it. Done. Moved on. Ball is in Sisu's court.

If it wasn't made then the assumption would be that talks are ongoing IMO.

But I see your point, maybe I'm a little more used to political language so read this stuff differently.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 14, 2014
  • #220
sw88 said:
The first part made me laugh a bit; "continue our transformation to become a truly competitive city - not just on a national stage but on an international one, too."

We're a long way off being a competitive City on the international stage, especially since the motoring industry left us.

I'm not surprised to see them moving on. In a way, I'm glad they've made this stance. I just hope SISU / OTIUM continue to take theirs with their intentions. Wouldnt be surprised to see the Ricoh become an outdoor exhibition centre now; an outside version of the NEC solely for concerts etc, which I think the model was always based on; never as a football stadium

Ps, just heard a clip on the radio. Nice to hear Dierdre Barlow doing the narrating for Anne
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They probably have a CPO In common.
 

oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
  • Jan 14, 2014
  • #221
Think there are a number of things to take from the statement on a different levels

1) is that it is AL saying to her party and council members "I am a strong leader"
2) a statement to the general populace that the Council knows its responsibilities and will not prioritise CCFC above education, child protection, regeneration of the city etc
3) a public statement to ACL that as a stakeholder they have the CCC support to do what ever it takes to make the Ricoh a success with or without CCFC
4) a public statement to SISU that the ball is in their court. CCC have read the statements, know the progress that's been made .......... build if you have to, but it will cost you

Is it what has been thought before - yes....... but now it is said not thought that's the difference. Neither side can stand still and wait..............

I can't help but think that the clock for CCFC just moved a notch closer to midnight........... no place to call home, and unless something happens we do not know about no where to build one either
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 14, 2014
  • #222
Moved on my arse. You don't move on by leaving the "door open".
 
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The Gentleman

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 14, 2014
  • #223
lordsummerisle said:
I will be in the future.
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Did you think that ?
 

sw88

Chief Commentator!
  • Jan 14, 2014
  • #224
wingy said:
They probably have a CPO In common.
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CPO? :thinking about:
 
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Jack Griffin

Guest
  • Jan 14, 2014
  • #225
torchomatic said:
Moved on my arse. You don't move on by leaving the "door open".
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That was the weak point of the statement, if she'd have said something like "agreement is still possible, but the door may close" then the statement would be stronger.

If a new tenant arrives then the game changes.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 14, 2014
  • #226
SISU desperately need to make a statement. They're not usually slow to make one when they get made to look bad in the press so the silence could be seen as an indication they don't know how to spin their way out of the revelations of the last few days. More than one representative of SISU very clearly stated they were in talks with 2 local councils about the new ground. Either at least 2 of the councils are lying (and I'm sure SISU would have let us know if this was the case before you even consider repercussions for the councils in question) or SISU have been found outright lying in a way that's very difficult to spin their way out of.

This statement from CCC will put more pressure on SISU, the council are saying we're moving on, get on with building your ground. Ball now very firmly in SISUs court and they don't seem to know what to do with it.

Will be very interesting to see what SISUs next statement does say when it eventually appears.
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 14, 2014
  • #227
italiahorse said:
I think this gives the go ahead to ACL to pursue other alternatives. I'd put a roof on it .
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oh oh oh oh oh oh oh...

If you like it then you should just put a roof on it

oh oh oh
 
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stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 14, 2014
  • #228
shmmeee said:
CCC aren't ACL. Not heard the Nii Lamptey interview, but that's always been the case that the council don't sell land they lease it (probably why Joy is asking for that).

This is just a statement, to the entire council, that as of now we're not spending any more time on it. Not that we'll be OK, or that we might move on later. But that's it. Done. Moved on. Ball is in Sisu's court.

If it wasn't made then the assumption would be that talks are ongoing IMO.

But I see your point, maybe I'm a little more used to political language so read this stuff differently.
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Have they really spent that much time on it? They've had what 1 or 2 meetings with JS, there has been no negotiations on a purchase. The rental offers would have been ACLs finance team not council officers, other than getting agreement from those on the board, who are going to the board meetings anyway.

ACL made a couple of rent offers not the council. So are they saying ccc have moved on or ACL or both?

What it really says is we need ccfc but we will not be making any more offers, but please come and see us if you change your mind or want to make an offer.

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Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 14, 2014
  • #229
torchomatic said:
Moved on my arse. You don't move on by leaving the "door open".
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It doesn't matter does it SISU are building a new stadium?
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 14, 2014
  • #230
sw88 said:
The first part made me laugh a bit; "continue our transformation to become a truly competitive city - not just on a national stage but on an international one, too."

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Made me laugh the other day driving along the A45 from BHX to Coventry to see loads of electronic signs saying something like:

"Working to improve your City"

Then changing to:

"May be delays"
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 14, 2014
  • #231
torchomatic said:
Moved on my arse. You don't move on by leaving the "door open".
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I think that up to today, ACL have not been given the green light to pursue any business that might interfere with CCFC matches.

This enables them to look elsewhere and perhaps gives an indication to other interested parties that there is an empty stadium available.

Realistically I think this will drag on to the end of the season when the JR is over (?)

It must be difficult to manage this, particularly if you know in reality no stadium can be built.

ANY business in a similar situation would look at the options. How long do ACL put up with business threats and games.

I can't see the club surviving this conflict.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 14, 2014
  • #232
sw88 said:
CPO? :thinking about:
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Chronic Pulmonary obstruction ,common among heavy smokers ,brings on a bit of a baritone voice.
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 14, 2014
  • #233
lordsummerisle said:
Made me laugh the other day driving along the A45 from BHX to Coventry to see loads of electronic signs saying something like:

"Working to improve your City"

Then changing to:

"May be delays"
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Is that for the death island over pass?
Will improve the flow but will obviously cause delays.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 14, 2014
  • #234
wingy said:
Chronic Pulmonary obstruction ,common among heavy smokers ,brings on a bit of a baritone voice.
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To think I used to be a soprano
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 14, 2014
  • #235
italiahorse said:
Is that for the death island over pass?
Will improve the flow but will obviously cause delays.
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No, this was just after the Wing-Wah, heading towards the Burnt Post.

Didn't see anything going on in that area to be honest.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 14, 2014
  • #236
italiahorse said:
I think that up to today, ACL have not been given the green light to pursue any business that might interfere with CCFC matches.

This enables them to look elsewhere and perhaps gives an indication to other interested parties that there is an empty stadium available.

Realistically I think this will drag on to the end of the season when the JR is over (?)

It must be difficult to manage this, particularly if you know in reality no stadium can be built.

ANY business in a similar situation would look at the options. How long do ACL put up with business threats and games.

I can't see the club surviving this conflict.
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Maybe the liquidations were preventing movement for ACL? The old lease still sitting.

Given todays news around the dropping of transfer restrictions Its possible Appletons work Is complete and both are now free to go about their business.:thinking about:
 

Covstu

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 14, 2014
  • #237
chiefdave said:
SISU desperately need to make a statement. They're not usually slow to make one when they get made to look bad in the press so the silence could be seen as an indication they don't know how to spin their way out of the revelations of the last few days. More than one representative of SISU very clearly stated they were in talks with 2 local councils about the new ground. Either at least 2 of the councils are lying (and I'm sure SISU would have let us know if this was the case before you even consider repercussions for the councils in question) or SISU have been found outright lying in a way that's very difficult to spin their way out of.

This statement from CCC will put more pressure on SISU, the council are saying we're moving on, get on with building your ground. Ball now very firmly in SISUs court and they don't seem to know what to do with it.

Will be very interesting to see what SISUs next statement does say when it eventually appears.
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To be fair they have been very clear on their stance, they have moved on and have plans for a new stadium. This statement just confirms the fact that ACL/CCC have had no contact. Maybe the fairytale stadium is a little more real than people think......
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 14, 2014
  • #238
This is just clarification that the site ain't for sale. Nothing we didn't know anyway. CCC know there is no serious chance of them building outside of the city. Councils talk to each other, I bet they didn't need FOI to find that out. Nothing will happen now until JR now. Sisu's eggs are clearly in 1 basket. My worry is what will happen if they loose. If they cared about the club it wouldn't be in Northampton. Why the FL passes hedge funds as fit and proper is beyond me, this is what they do. I'm not knocking hedge funds, they are what they are. What do the FL expect them to do?
 
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Jack Griffin

Guest
  • Jan 14, 2014
  • #239
italiahorse said:
Is that for the death island over pass?
Will improve the flow but will obviously cause delays.
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No the Kenpas Highway/Kenilworth Road junction is being monstered... reckon I have to get up an hour earlier now till works end if I want to get into work before midday
 
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blend

New Member
  • Jan 14, 2014
  • #240
She could of course have said we are in negotiation with 2 or 3 prospective tenants about making the Ricoh their new home, maybe people would have been more impressed with BS. I prefer an honest approach myself, and this seems to be just that.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 14, 2014
  • #241
Great statement from Anne Lucas
 

RegTheDonk

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 14, 2014
  • #242
Houdi said:
Just been on CWR it's just a statement from Ann Lucas, that we (the Council) must move on, hardly worth the build up
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Thought they were going to announce they would sell the freehold, or they've got someone else interested, but yeah bit of re hashing the same old bollocks - we're moving on but we want you back renting. A let down, I would have liked something that brings some conclusion to this one way or another.

Quite enjoyed parts of the meeting though, bit like PMQs but instead of talking about bombing Iraq arguing about where's the money coming from to fix the traffic lights on the Foleshill Road. Shame they can't get down to sorting out local problems instead of playing the usual Tory V Labour blame game. The bloke who missed his meeting made me laugh though, like any bird is going to have an affair with him.
 
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SkyBlueBlood

Member
  • Jan 14, 2014
  • #243
So nothing has changed!

The council do not have a plan or new prospective tenant.
SISU continue to cling to the long shot of winning a frivolous judicial review to pay the costs of their incompetent decision to play in a shack 35 miles away.
The fans continue to be crapped on from a great height.

Happy 2014 everyone (oh and 2015 & 2016 & 2017 & 2018 etc.) because it is just the same as the previous years since 2007. Complete joke.
 
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Jack Griffin

Guest
  • Jan 14, 2014
  • #244
RegTheDonk said:
The bloke who missed his meeting made me laugh though, like any bird is going to have an affair with him.
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Francois Hollande?
 
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Ashdown1

New Member
  • Jan 14, 2014
  • #245
In short............Fuck the out of town hedge fund, we'll try and manage somehow or another and the whole site in question has been excellent for job creation in Coventry. It's obvious they want the team back but also fairly clear they are not going to bow down to these lowdown scumbags ! Stalemate is King and the fans are the mugs who pick up the pieces !
 
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