Non AMP
Sky Blues Talk
  • Home
  • Forums
  • Coventry City Football Club
  • Coventry City General Chat
This is a mobile optimized page that loads fast, if you want to load the real page, click this text.

Match Thread Shrewsbury Town vs. Coventry City Match Thread - Saturday 22nd Dec (16 Viewers)

  • Thread starter Nick
  • Start date Dec 17, 2018
Forums New posts
Prev
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • …
  • 15
Next
First Prev 2 of 15 Next Last

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 18, 2018
  • #36
Esoterica said:
Part of the issue we have now in my opinion - we didn't address the glaring issues that were there when we were on that winning run.
Click to expand...

Exactly, it was as if everything was perfect and you couldn't mention it.
 

cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2018
  • #37
steve82 said:
Has he tho, I’m not so sure.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Liverpool ? Yeah I would say he has top of the Prem
 
Reactions: steve82

steve82

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2018
  • #38
cc84cov said:
Liverpool ? Yeah I would say he has top of the Prem
Click to expand...

Cannot disagree with that...

Not exactgot Kelly, Doyle, Ogogo or Bayliss tho to choose from has he.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

JulianDarbyFTW

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2018
  • #39
Towards the end of last season, Robins took the decision to be bold. For some reason, he's gone back into a defensive mindset. Maybe he thinks we aren't good enough to play open football. I kind of agree, but I wish he'd give the players some level of free reign. They just seem overly restricted in what they are allowed to do resulting in dull games and, right now, demoralising defeats. This will be another. 2-0 Shrews.
 
Reactions: itsabuzzard, Pete in Portugal and pusbccfc

Gibbo

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2018
  • #40
stevefloyd said:
I would drop shipley stick doyle and kelly in the middle and Bayliss and Thomas out wide...Bayliss out wide is not the best option but a damn sight better than Shipley out there then bring Allesani on later
Click to expand...
I agree with all of that. A Bayliss-Kelly-Doyle-Thomas has been the obvious choice for a couple of weeks now. Last Saturday Allessani did more than enough to warrant a longer sub appearance
 
Reactions: Pete in Portugal and steve82

Gibbo

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2018
  • #41
insert the word "midfield" after "Thomas"
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 18, 2018
  • #42
Gibbo said:
Last Saturday Allessani did more than enough to warrant a longer sub appearance
Click to expand...

Which usually means he will drop out of the squad.
 
Reactions: covcity4life

steve82

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2018
  • #43
Gibbo said:
I agree with all of that. A Bayliss-Kelly-Doyle-Thomas has been the obvious choice for a couple of weeks now. Last Saturday Allessani did more than enough to warrant a longer sub appearance
Click to expand...

Bayliss needs to come out the middle for sure, be that out the side or to the right wing but if you then put a Thomas on the left how much will that effect his game then to accommodate Bayliss on the right?


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 18, 2018
  • #44
Bayliss shouldn't be undroppable.
 
Reactions: pusbccfc, cc84cov and Ashdown
A

Ashdown

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2018
  • #45
I agree, I haven't been blown away by Bayliss at all !
I think we are going to struggle again.........only chance of a win is if Robins changes the formation and puts two up top. I think they are all fairly poor but would be tempted with JCH and Chaplin from the off.
 

steve82

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2018
  • #46
Nick said:
Bayliss shouldn't be undroppable.
Click to expand...

He’s desperate for a rest, I honestly believe that’s the real reason for his poor performances this year.

He’s played a unbelievable amount of football for a 1st full 12 months in the pro game, he barely had a few weeks off this summer too with his England call up.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2018
  • #47
Nick said:
Exactly, it was as if everything was perfect and you couldn't mention it.
Click to expand...
yup i remember @Esoterica and others reacting angrily to me being unhappy about nearly throwing away bradford result

when will people just realise i know more about football than anyone else?
 
C

ccfchoi87

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2018
  • #48
Nick said:
Bayliss shouldn't be undroppable.
Click to expand...

How have we got on this year when he hasn't played?
 

stevefloyd

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2018
  • #49
covcity4life said:
yup i remember @Esoterica and others reacting angrily to me being unhappy about nearly throwing away bradford result

when will people just realise i know more about football than anyone else?
Click to expand...
I give you one credit...you know more about fuck all than anybody else
 
Reactions: Astute and covcity4life

stevefloyd

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2018
  • #50
ccfchoi87 said:
How have we got on this year when he hasn't played?
Click to expand...
Some on here say he didn't play in the Luton game and we lost that
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2018
  • #51
bayliss isnt our problem imo. last thing we need is few players that are creative being dropped.

might be time to call time on shipley experiment though
 
Reactions: GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

steve82

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2018
  • #52
covcity4life said:
bayliss isnt our problem imo. last thing we need is few players that are creative being dropped.

might be time to call time on shipley experiment though
Click to expand...

If all the planets have lined up January will arrive with a suitable left winger all ready identified to sign within days of the window opening.

This is our biggest pressing issue above form of players in my opinion.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
 

Esoterica

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2018
  • #53
steve82 said:
He’s desperate for a rest, I honestly believe that’s the real reason for his poor performances this year.

He’s played a unbelievable amount of football for a 1st full 12 months in the pro game, he barely had a few weeks off this summer too with his England call up.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
That might be a factor but he looked good against Walsall 1st half (his final ball was still off though) and the big difference there was where we were getting him on the ball. That for me has been the biggest issue with him this year - he tends to get the ball 10 yards inside his own half, with not a lot to aim at, when he should be receiving it top of the centre circle. As soon as he gets the ball deep, teams drop back to the top of their box and let him run out of steam.
Starting to drive me nuts. We're setting up defensively, still leaking goals, while at the expense of not maximising the potential of any of our creative players, of which the only one who has looked decent is Thomas due to his electric pace. So bored of Robins' reliance (pun not intended!) on an individual's skill to try and win a game of football. JJ, Nazon for a bit, then Bayliss last year, McNulty when he hit form, Thomas this year. It's so one dimensional - the only time we've consistently played decent team football is the last 8 games of last season when we absolutely had to win games.
 
Reactions: steve82

steve82

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2018
  • #54
Esoterica said:
That might be a factor but he looked good against Walsall 1st half (his final ball was still off though) and the big difference there was where we were getting him on the ball. That for me has been the biggest issue with him this year - he tends to get the ball 10 yards inside his own half, with not a lot to aim at, when he should be receiving it top of the centre circle. As soon as he gets the ball deep, teams drop back to the top of their box and let him run out of steam.
Starting to drive me nuts. We're setting up defensively, still leaking goals, while at the expense of not maximising the potential of any of our creative players, of which the only one who has looked decent is Thomas due to his electric pace. So bored of Robins' reliance (pun not intended!) on an individual's skill to try and win a game of football. JJ, Nazon for a bit, then Bayliss last year, McNulty when he hit form, Thomas this year. It's so one dimensional - the only time we've consistently played decent team football is the last 8 games of last season when we absolutely had to win games.
Click to expand...

I agree with the frustration around the negative style but that’s MR style unfortunately, that’s his philosophy.

I’d like him to tweak it but I don’t see it happening yet with what players he’s got at his disposal. I don’t think he believes we’re capable of being more expansive so doesn’t run the risk.

I think we still very young naive side what lacks discipline in games to be overly expansive in this league. I think Tom Bayliss falls into this category easily too but he’s one of few attacking flair players we’ve got who could change the outcome of games in moments going through the 3rds like Thomas does.

I think that’s where promotion came too soon for the good of the side, but more for the good of the club and supporters.
It’s a building process that’s gonna need more time to get to the levels of Portsmouth and Luton.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
 

cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2018
  • #55
covcity4life said:
bayliss isnt our problem imo. last thing we need is few players that are creative being dropped.

might be time to call time on shipley experiment though
Click to expand...
Agree there mate he’s not league 1 level yet.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 20, 2018
  • #56
Added the normal betting odds now too! https://skybluestalk.co.uk/sportsbook/category/league-1.2/
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2018
  • #57
I hope he goes 4-4-2 and chooses what he thinks is his best team then sticks with it for a few weeks to let them settle. It seems like he's choosing the team and formation from a tombola.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 20, 2018
  • #58
Liquid Gold said:
I hope he goes 4-4-2 and chooses what he thinks is his best team then sticks with it for a few weeks to let them settle. It seems like he's choosing the team and formation from a tombola.
Click to expand...

Only thing is who is played down the Left?

Allisanni is due a chance but haven't seen enough of him to know how he would do as a starter there.
 

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2018
  • #59
Sorry chaps, been to 8 away games this season and seen us pick up 1 point (the drab 0-0 with AFC Wimbledon), unfortunately going again tomorrow so I wouldn't be getting your hopes up.
 

Warwickhunt

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2018
  • #60
Nick said:
Only thing is who is played down the Left?

Allisanni is due a chance but haven't seen enough of him to know how he would do as a starter there.
Click to expand...
We need someone who can concentrate and cover Brown when he ventures up the field! Hiwula and Shipley do but they lose concentration and mainly in the last 20 minutes they cannot be arsed!
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 20, 2018
  • #61
GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee said:
Sorry chaps, been to 8 away games this season and seen us pick up 1 point (the drab 0-0 with AFC Wimbledon), unfortunately going again tomorrow so I wouldn't be getting your hopes up.
Click to expand...
 
C

Cranfield Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2018
  • #62
GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee said:
Sorry chaps, been to 8 away games this season and seen us pick up 1 point (the drab 0-0 with AFC Wimbledon), unfortunately going again tomorrow so I wouldn't be getting your hopes up.
Click to expand...

Please. Will you just stop it. Stay at home and drink tea.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 20, 2018
  • #63
Warwickhunt said:
We need someone who can concentrate and cover Brown when he ventures up the field! Hiwula and Shipley do but they lose concentration and mainly in the last 20 minutes they cannot be arsed!
Click to expand...

In the friendlies Allisanni looked like he worked hard and had a bit of grit. It's different in actual games though
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2018
  • #64
Nick said:
I just don't think it works when he tries to go so defensive like that.

He plays to invite pressure which worked more in League 2 because the quality wasn't as good. In League 1 we will (and do) get punished.
Click to expand...

Have always been convinced the quality of attackers is significantly higher than defenders in the lower leagues and it’s always best to get on the front foot.
 
L

Legia Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2018
  • #65
Now Kelly has got a couple of games under his belt I think we have to go with the Doyle, Kelly & Bayliss combination in midfield that finished last season so well. Not sure they have started a game together yet this season.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 20, 2018
  • #66
Legia Sky Blue said:
Now Kelly has got a couple of games under his belt I think we have to go with the Doyle, Kelly & Bayliss combination in midfield that finished last season so well. Not sure they have started a game together yet this season.
Click to expand...

Is that with Bayliss on the right?

Think it's worth a go, if Bayliss goes on a mad run it doesn't leave us as open. Can then put Thomas on the left.
 
L

Legia Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2018
  • #67
Nick said:
Is that with Bayliss on the right?

Think it's worth a go, if Bayliss goes on a mad run it doesn't leave us as open. Can then put Thomas on the left.
Click to expand...

Yes opposite wing to Thomas - I guess Bayliss would be more comfortable on the right.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 20, 2018
  • #68
Legia Sky Blue said:
Yes opposite wing to Thomas - I guess Bayliss would be more comfortable on the right.
Click to expand...
He might do ok on the left, would just depend how he would cover brown when he gets forward.
 

itsabuzzard

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2018
  • #69
covcity4life said:
yup i remember @Esoterica and others reacting angrily to me being unhappy about nearly throwing away bradford result

when will people just realise i know more about football than anyone else?
Click to expand...
It's good to be reminded of that "fact" at every opportunity. Thanks.

Sent from my LG-H850 using Tapatalk
 
Reactions: covcity4life

Warwickhunt

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2018
  • #70
Nick said:
Is that with Bayliss on the right?

Think it's worth a go, if Bayliss goes on a mad run it doesn't leave us as open. Can then put Thomas on the left.
Click to expand...
i would give Thomas a break and bring him on as a second half sub if required! he has looked jaded as of late! short sharp shock might focus him a bit
 
Prev
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • …
  • 15
Next
First Prev 2 of 15 Next Last
You must log in or register to reply here.

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 16 (members: 0, guests: 16)
Share:
Facebook Twitter Reddit Pinterest Tumblr WhatsApp Email
  • Home
  • Forums
  • Coventry City Football Club
  • Coventry City General Chat
  • Default Style
  • Contact us
  • Terms and rules
  • Privacy policy
  • Help
  • Home
Community platform by XenForo® © 2010-2021 XenForo Ltd.
Menu
Log in

Register

  • Home
  • Forums
    • New posts
    • Search forums
  • What's new
    • New posts
    • Latest activity
  • Members
    • Current visitors
  • Donate to the Season Ticket Fund
X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?

X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?