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Match Thread Sheffield Wednesday - Coventry City Match Thread - Saturday 4th Oct (43 Viewers)

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Viktor17

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  • Today at 12:24 PM
  • #106
Fitness test for torp / Eccles today.
Which suggest at worst, both should be back for Blackburn.

think Eccles will play / torp no
 
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fatso

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  • Today at 12:58 PM
  • #107
procdoc said:
Whilst Bannan is a veteran decent championship player, he’s not exactly Pirlo
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He is one of the best players in the championship, however he played Saturday and Tuesday, so at his age hes got to be feeling the pace a bit now, and a heavy pitch won't do him any favours.
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Today at 12:58 PM
  • #108
Hutch11 said:
Bannan skin!!
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Nice one apeeled to my sense of humour
 

fatso

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  • Today at 1:00 PM
  • #109
Viktor17 said:
Fitness test for torp / Eccles today.
Which suggest at worst, both should be back for Blackburn.

think Eccles will play / torp no
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As long as one of them makes it we will be ok.
Grimes will be fit so Allen can step in, or even BTA could play as a 10 and EMC could come back in on the left wing.

Plenty of options.
 
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Hutch11

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  • Today at 1:07 PM
  • #110
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Nice one apeeled to my sense of humour
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Yeah but some people get bent out of shape about it
 
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Hincha

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  • Today at 1:09 PM
  • #111
If EMC can play 70 minutes then Saka in the 10 isn't the worst shout. He presses well and can go wide in possession like Rudoni does so we're still playing to his strengths
 

Chris1987

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  • Today at 1:11 PM
  • #112
fatso said:
As long as one of them makes it we will be ok.
Grimes will be fit so Allen can step in, or even BTA could play as a 10 and EMC could come back in on the left wing.

Plenty of options.
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BTA needs to stay where he is. Wouldn't work as a 10 .
 
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CV22SBA

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  • Today at 1:13 PM
  • #113
According to the Sheff Wed forum only about 14K home tickets sold and it’s POTG if anyone fancies it.
 
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Speedie's Head

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  • Today at 1:14 PM
  • #114
Viktor17 said:
think Eccles will play
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He was very off the pace on Wednesday. He's clearly not match sharp whether he was carrying a knock or not.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Today at 1:33 PM
  • #115
procdoc said:
Whilst Bannan is a veteran decent championship player, he’s not exactly Pirlo
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He's a very good championship player and had us on string 2nd half in the cup game last year until we changed shape.
 
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Ricketts

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  • Today at 1:33 PM
  • #116
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Has an abductor strain
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Just on one leg, or all three?
 
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oneofourown

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  • Today at 1:41 PM
  • #117
Bannan? He's always up for playing us and I think at his age he possibly targets certain games where he wants to be in the team. Without him we will win, but if he in on the pitch I think it will be a draw. Biggest test thus far for us because people expect us to run riot over them.
 
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Potbellypig

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  • Today at 1:42 PM
  • #118
Hincha said:
If EMC can play 70 minutes then Saka in the 10 isn't the worst shout. He presses well and can go wide in possession like Rudoni does so we're still playing to his strengths
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Any other time Sakamoto has played in the 10 role, he's been shit.
 
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Skyblueweeman

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  • Today at 1:50 PM
  • #119
shmmeee said:
That wasn’t the Championship
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2nd tier, no?
 
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shmmeee

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  • Today at 1:55 PM
  • #120
Potbellypig said:
Any other time Sakamoto has played in the 10 role, he's been shit.
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I’d much rather BTA there than Saka or EMC who both want a fullback on the sideline. He played the deeper of the two forwards and as Lampard says can fill in at the ten. Gives you good press with Haji as well.
 
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Jamesimus

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  • Today at 2:01 PM
  • #121
Didn’t realise it’s early kick off and I’m out until about 3pm! Going to open ifollow in the morning on the right page, delete instagram, whatsapp and turn off all notifications so I can watch it live from 3pm without knowing the scores. I pray it works out for me.
 
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play_in_skyblue_stripes

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  • Today at 2:07 PM
  • #122
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Never underestimate the eagerness of a 'Spoons devotee!
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Yes likely to be doing that after arriving in Sheffield. Breakfasts are very good value.
 
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fatso

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  • Today at 2:22 PM
  • #123
Chris1987 said:
BTA needs to stay where he is. Wouldn't work as a 10 .
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The idea that a professional striker who can play as a CF AND has already played as a LW and RW this season, couldnt possibly play as a 10, is the most rediculous thing ive heard in ages.

You say he should stay where he is, well where is he exactly??? Left wing? Right wing? Or up front?

If he stays on the left wing, do we leave a now fit EMC on the bench when his fresh legs would be desperately needed in our third game in 8 days?
 
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shmmeee

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  • Today at 2:23 PM
  • #124
fatso said:
The idea that a professional striker who can play as a CF AND has already played as a LW and RW this season, couldnt possibly play as a 10, is the most rediculous thing ive heard in ages.

You say he should stay where he is, well where is he exactly??? Left wing? Right wing? Or up front?

If he stays on the left wing, do we leave a now fit EMC on the bench when his fresh legs would be desperately needed in our third game in 8 days?
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I think one of Torp or Eccles will play and this will be a moot point but I agree. BTA can play any of the front four roles and I’d rather him there a the two best crossers out wide than visa versa.
 
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Chris1987

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  • Today at 2:30 PM
  • #125
fatso said:
The idea that a professional striker who can play as a CF AND has already played as a LW and RW this season, couldnt possibly play as a 10, is the most rediculous thing ive heard in ages.

You say he should stay where he is, well where is he exactly??? Left wing? Right wing? Or up front?

If he stays on the left wing, do we leave a now fit EMC on the bench when his fresh legs would be desperately needed in our third game in 8 days?
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I've got my opinion you've got yours. If that's the most ridiculous thing you've heard then you are leading a very sheltered life.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Today at 2:40 PM
  • #126
fatso said:
The idea that a professional striker who can play as a CF AND has already played as a LW and RW this season, couldnt possibly play as a 10, is the most rediculous thing ive heard in ages.

You say he should stay where he is, well where is he exactly??? Left wing? Right wing? Or up front?

If he stays on the left wing, do we leave a now fit EMC on the bench when his fresh legs would be desperately needed in our third game in 8 days?
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BTA would be awful as a CAM. He hasn't got the touch, the spatial awareness or the weight of pass / pass accuracy to be even remotely adequate in that position.

His niche is making runs to receive passes and applying pressure to the oppositions defensive line, not in dictating play
 
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TomRad85

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  • Today at 2:42 PM
  • #127
I think we'd change formation before putting BTA, EMC or Sakamoto in that position personally. Hopefully it doesn't come to that and the injuries it looked like we picked up weren't anything to worry about.
 
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Jamesimus

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  • Today at 2:47 PM
  • #128
fatso said:
The idea that a professional striker who can play as a CF AND has already played as a LW and RW this season, couldnt possibly play as a 10, is the most rediculous thing ive heard in ages.
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Mate, you frequently post far more “rediculous” things in the off topic forum
 

Jamesimus

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  • Today at 2:48 PM
  • #129
TomRad85 said:
I think we'd change formation before putting BTA, EMC or Sakamoto in that position personally. Hopefully it doesn't come to that and the injuries it looked like we picked up weren't anything to worry about.
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Could BTA, EMC or Tats play as a 10? Yeah probably.

Not convinced it would be the best use of our better attacking outlets and as you say, I think we’d sooner change shape to accommodate players playing in their best positions.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Today at 2:52 PM
  • #130
I think Sheff Wed away last season was probably the last time we started 3-5-2?
 
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Jamesimus

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  • Today at 2:54 PM
  • #131
fernandopartridge said:
I think Sheff Wed away last season was probably the last time we started 3-5-2?
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Yeah I vaguely remember we were up against it for quite a while in that game, but came through with 3 points? Good Dovin save as well maybe?
 

TomRad85

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  • Today at 2:59 PM
  • #132
Jamesimus said:
Yeah I vaguely remember we were up against it for quite a while in that game, but came through with 3 points? Good Dovin save as well maybe?
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Yeh we weren't good but Jeremy Beadle in goal handed us the 3 points.
 
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Hincha

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  • Today at 3:00 PM
  • #133
Potbellypig said:
Any other time Sakamoto has played in the 10 role, he's been shit.
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Under Robins yes. The role was different, he was asked to stay central which didn't work

Look at Rudoni's heatmap. The 10 role under Lampard is much more about floating out wide and creating overloads. You need close control in a packed middle, good link-up play and good delivery - BTA has his strengths but he doesn't suit this



Hopefully Torp is fit and all of this is futile
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Today at 3:02 PM
  • #134
TomRad85 said:
Yeh we weren't good but Jeremy Beadle in goal handed us the 3 points.
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It's the little hand isn't it
 
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TomRad85

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  • Today at 3:05 PM
  • #135
fernandopartridge said:
It's the little hand isn't it
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Goalkeeper was a strange choice of career given that, but fair play to him i suppose.
 

Offhegoes

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  • Today at 3:33 PM
  • #136
Viktor17 said:
Fitness test for torp / Eccles today.
Which suggest at worst, both should be back for Blackburn.

think Eccles will play / torp no
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Great news that. Was hoping the suspected injuries weren't serious.
Still, if both are out tomorrow, it will need to be Grimes, Allen and Andrews in the middle, and surely a switch to 5-3-2.
 
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Potbellypig

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  • Today at 3:39 PM
  • #137
Hincha said:
Under Robins yes. The role was different, he was asked to stay central which didn't work

Look at Rudoni's heatmap. The 10 role under Lampard is much more about floating out wide and creating overloads. You need close control in a packed middle, good link-up play and good delivery - BTA has his strengths but he doesn't suit this

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Hopefully Torp is fit and all of this is futile
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So as a 10 we're now just assuming Sakamoto can float out wide, create overloads, have close control in a packed middle, good link-up play and good delivery.

Whenever he's tried to do any of that before, he was wank. Got bullied off the ball pretty much every time.
 

Sick Boy

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  • Today at 3:43 PM
  • #138
shmmeee said:
What’s the longest we’ve ever been top of the Championship?

Have we ever been top of the championship?
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First season down from the PL we were for a while.
 
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Hincha

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  • Today at 3:54 PM
  • #139
Offhegoes said:
Great news that. Was hoping the suspected injuries weren't serious.
Still, if both are out tomorrow, it will need to be Grimes, Allen and Andrews in the middle, and surely a switch to 5-3-2.
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The problem is bodies in central midfield & all of our wingers are available so I don't see why we'd switch to 5-3-2

It wil be the usual with Andrews/Saka/BTA in the 10 or the 5-2-3 (5-4-1) was saw against Millwall
 
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Hincha

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  • Today at 3:58 PM
  • #140
Potbellypig said:
So as a 10 we're now just assuming Sakamoto can float out wide, create overloads, have close control in a packed middle, good link-up play and good delivery.

Whenever he's tried to do any of that before, he was wank. Got bullied off the ball pretty much every time.
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Nobody said it was ideal, but I can't see BTA faring much better (unless we completely change the role) & Andrews doesn't seem trusted

I've even said I'd move to 5-2-3 if both Torp/Eccles are out but if Lampard wants to stick to the system then I'd argue he's the best option of a bad bunch

Also, a player not performing in a role 2 seasons ago under Robins isn't a solid argument. JDS couldn't play LB under Robins but look at him now
 
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