I know members of the electorate other than the trust have contacted Jim Cunningham asking if there's any assistance he can provide. Why has Johnson made the assumption that Cunningham speaking about this issue is solely down to himself and the Trust? Its exactly that kind of back slapping that puts people off.
And why the dig at Fisher? How does that help things? We all know what Fisher is like, but not being able to make a statement or tweet without mentioning him is, at best unprofessional, but seems more like a weird obsession.
Again, people too obsessed with Fisher. Timmy this, Timmy that. Photoshops, posting his home address.
It's what the Trust need to distance themselves from rather than including them.
Fair play to the trust, they've done some good work here, but other fans group issued statements, individuals e-mailed local politicians and Councillors, but it's more important to this roaster that he gets in the limelight and is seen as better than everyone else.
How anyone can question the mentioning of ego in this thread when they see shit like this is beyond me.
Well said, OSB. Totally agree.Ok this has been bugging me recently........
Some of the comments made about the Trust on this website have been shameful, and make you wonder as to purpose. I am all for good debate and people having an opinion they can voice, however character assassination is not something i personally want part of. There seems to be a lot of "timely" focus on an organisation and its leadership that are not in a position to change anything, only to challenge. Yet next to nothing of any importance is done about SISU & Wasps or even CCC.
Often see it said the Trust Board are in it for their own ends, for their sense of ego, for their own agenda. It is voluntary so i wonder what it is they gain other than lost time, frustration, insults and a sense of why the hell do i bother. Certainly the personal bashing here and other places engenders no sense of greater ego i can see, quite the reverse. "They want a seat at the club board", really, read the info on club ownership on their site they wont own the shares, and a fans representative doesn't have to be a board member of the Trust. "They want to run the club" again the info on the website says they would like fans to have a minority interest and the club to be run by professional sports orientated people. The club will be run by whoever has the majority stake, the Trust wants the fans to have a proper say though.
Yes the Trust do make mistakes, who doesn't. Not really a revelation, and those 'mistakes' are actually in large part only someones differing opinion that is voiced here or other places. The Trust are amateurs, yes for me some of their PR is too emotive and too slanted against the owners, but it doesn't mean they do not care.
The worrying thing is that the bile on all sides will only increase the nearer we get to the end of the season if no solution is found. No doubt a whole lot of that bile will be sent the Trust's way
No disrespect meant to those who put forward a reasoned argument, but i find some of what is said and claimed poor at best.
If something is claimed as fact on here, my advice would be to find out for yourself - just to be clear even on my own postings.
Just my opinion - I wont be arguing about it
Well said, OSB. Totally agree.
You know what worries me more than the twitter postings, is reading the ' from the boardroom' and getting the increasing feeling that those at the club haven't got a clue how to get out of this.
Very few, particularly those that make the decisions, are listening to what Boddy & Fisher are saying. Their lips are moving, they are saying some of the stuff necessary but it carries no real weight. The fans do not seem energised by the threat to our future
There is no coordinated plan coming from the club other than to get the fans into small groups across the area. That is good in some ways in that you could argue it creates more links with the club but it could also be seen as divide and conquer.
stumbling towards disaster at the moment
There are loads of throw away 'The Trust's not fit for purpose' comments though and loads just totally dismissing them out of hand, never, ever giving them any credit at all.you only have to look at the post from Fernando Otis to realise some of those criticisms are valid.
I know there are people in the trust working really hard in their spare time but they need to disassociate themselves from idiots like that who are doing more than most to divide the fan base.
to be fair OSB58, while not disagreeing with your comments I haven't heard one person claim that Boddy has any significant influence over what goes on with regard to major decisions regarding the future of the club.
I think most, if not all, know he's fairly impotent in that regard.
you only have to look at the post from Fernando Otis to realise some of those criticisms are valid.
I know there are people in the trust working really hard in their spare time but they need to disassociate themselves from idiots like that who are doing more than most to divide the fan base.
There are loads of throw away 'The Trust's not fit for purpose' comments though and loads just totally dismissing them out of hand, never, ever giving them any credit at all.
I think you have to include all elements, harness the energy and point it in the right directions. There will be good stuff that those elements offer but that wont get focused on. There will also be a sizeable group of people who agree with the extremism. I do think some of the lines have blurred and the Trust needs to get back to acting more professionally and as one body. Those who are actually Board members must act appropriately
I think you have to include all elements, harness the energy and point it in the right directions. There will be good stuff that those elements offer but that wont get focused on. There will also be a sizeable group of people who agree with the extremism. I do think some of the lines have blurred and the Trust needs to get back to acting more professionally and as one body. Those who are actually Board members must act appropriately
Don't you think sometimes we let ourselves get divided too, though?People like that do nothing but divide the fanbase.
Don't you think sometimes we let ourselves get divided too, though?
Sometimes it's easy to focus on the margins, and not on the core. This meeting is actually a chance to show that we're united in the core message, if nothing else.
Don't you think sometimes we let ourselves get divided too, though?
Sometimes it's easy to focus on the margins, and not on the core. This meeting is actually a chance to show that we're united in the core message, if nothing else.
But i seem to remember a very well known football finance expert saying the 76p in the £ stuff ....... why wouldn't the ordinary fan not believe him. Thats why i started posting here and on the BBC site to correct inaccuracies that i felt were being put forward.
To be honest when i have contacted the Trust on things i haven't had much trouble in getting my point across and it being understood. I dont expect them to act on everything i ask or to agree with everything i say. But i do understand your particular frustrations
As for the name calling, frankly i dont care if someone is extreme in view or not, on the other side of the fence or sees things differently is here or on twitter............ it is not necessary and to my mind loses someone any credible argument - i tend to ignore their content which is a shame because often there is something useful buried in the rest of the crap
Tbh don't think I've ever heard Moz ranting.Decent statement from moz on the news. Just pointed out the fans are concerned with no ranty nonsense. Simple and to the point!
Have you got a link?Decent statement from moz on the news. Just pointed out the fans are concerned with no ranty nonsense. Simple and to the point!
It was just on ITV I think it wasHave you got a link?
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