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Nick

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  • Jan 12, 2019
  • #36
letsallsingtogether said:
So 2 at the most you accused me of making things up but when someone else says untruths it's ok.
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3 that I know of from their public comments recently. They may well have changed!
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 12, 2019
  • #37
Nick said:
3 that I know of from their public comments recently. They may well have changed!
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But it's not half is it.
Only know of one on a full boycott (never knew till I read it on here) have spoken to another one who just doesn't go as often as before, mind you his son and parents still have ST.
Don't know who the third one is.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 12, 2019
  • #38
letsallsingtogether said:
But it's not half is it.
Only know of one on a full boycott (never knew till I read it on here) have spoken to another one who just doesn't go as often as before, mind you his son and parents still have ST.
Don't know who the third one is.
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Third one is the same guy who made and pushed an image calling season ticket holders "nobs".

They let the side down for others who do bother!
 

Irish Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 12, 2019
  • #39
rob9872 said:
when that statement was made a trust representative was interviewed and said he won't attend until SISU go. We all hate them but the past few years has taught us that they don't care what we think so our only contribution can be to back what they do on the park. They'll go when they're ready and it won't be before every possible angle of court cases has been extinguished.
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From comments made at meetings, most speakers seem well informed and know about the team. Lots of people who attend I see at home and away games. I agree Sisu will go their own way whatever the Trust or anyone else does. It doesn’t mean that a group like the Trust shouldn’t try to pre-empt things that Sisu might do. Should there not be a strategy in place if Sisu try to liquidate? When the old chairman of CRFC ( Green?) tried to liquidate them a few years ago Peter Rosborough and others were able to stop his plan and save the club. Should the Trust and others not plan the same? I don’t see how having a meeting where all concerned parties are invited to attend ( be interesting to see who is represented there) and where questions and views of fans can be expressed is a negative thing? Surely you can’t both criticise an organisation for not representing their members views and then criticise them again for canvassing their members views? As far as I can see the Trust is made up of ordinary supporters who simply want the best for the club. They get a lot of stick that I think is unwarranted. I don’t know this guy from the Rochdale authority or what he has done or if he is on the Trust board. According to the dictionary, nonce (I genuinely didn’t know what it meant), is a word to describe someone convicted of a sexual offence against a child. To describe someone who you presumably don’t know (and also presumably don’t know the details of his role or the reasons for leaving that role) as a supporter of peadophiles and the things that they do seems very harsh. I can just imagine how that man would feel if he read those words about him simply because he on the board of a supporters organisation.
 
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letsallsingtogether

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  • Jan 12, 2019
  • #40
Nick said:
Third one is the same guy who made and pushed an image calling season ticket holders "nobs".

They let the side down for others who do bother!
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Must have missed that one.
 
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Magwitch

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 12, 2019
  • #41
[QUOTE="According to the dictionary, nonce (I genuinely didn’t know what it meant), is a word to describe someone convicted of a sexual offence against a child. To describe someone who you presumably don’t know (and also presumably don’t know the details of his role or the reasons for leaving that role) as a supporter of peadophiles and the things that they do seems very harsh. I can just imagine how that man would feel if he read those words about him simply because he on the board of a supporters organisation
.[/QUOTE]

Bit of a silly and dodgy statement unless there’s hard proof.
 
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letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 12, 2019
  • #42
Magwitch said:
[QUOTE="According to the dictionary, nonce (I genuinely didn’t know what it meant), is a word to describe someone convicted of a sexual offence against a child. To describe someone who you presumably don’t know (and also presumably don’t know the details of his role or the reasons for leaving that role) as a supporter of peadophiles and the things that they do seems very harsh. I can just imagine how that man would feel if he read those words about him simply because he on the board of a supporters organisation
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Bit of a silly and bit of a dodgy statement unless there’s hard proof.[/QUOTE]
Yet some posters have been pushing this to discredit him.
What are their reasons for this.
Funny how the same posters hounded the last chair of the Trust, wonder who pulling their strings?
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 12, 2019
  • #43
Tweeted something along the lines of ‘10 games till homeless, what are you doing Tim and Joy’

Fuck the trust
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 12, 2019
  • #44
Liquid Gold said:
Tweeted something along the lines of ‘10 games till homeless, what are you doing Tim and Joy’

Fuck the trust
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This one?



Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
 

Irish Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 12, 2019
  • #45
Liquid Gold said:
Tweeted something along the lines of ‘10 games till homeless, what are you doing Tim and Joy’

Fuck the trust
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Isn’t that true though? Also isn’t it in Sisu’s power to stop their action so that a deal can be negotiated. I know lots will now come back and say it is not just Sisu it is Wasps and CC Council too, which is true. However at the root of all of this is the way Sisu have misrun this club and continue to use it as a bargaining chip that is expendable in their ongoing games. The Fact that they left their application to appeal until the last minute shows to me that the legal action is as much about putting pressure on Wasps as it is about their right to a fair legal settlement. By leaving their application to the last minute it ramps up the pressure on Wasps to give in and negotiate as time ticks on. The fact that this is damaging to CCFC matters not a jot to them. Application in three weeks earlier presumably would mean judgement given three weeks earlier at least, which, if please God, this is the end of the legal action against Wasps would mean there is no barrier to a new rent deal.
 
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Adge

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 12, 2019
  • #46
We shall also be inviting along all of the key players in this saga in the hope that they can hear first hand from the people who care most about the future of Coventry City Football Club, us the supporters.

Like the key players will be listening and bothered by the “rallying call” :emoji_rolling_eyes:
 

Irish Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 12, 2019
  • #47
Adge said:
We shall also be inviting along all of the key players in this saga in the hope that they can hear first hand from the people who care most about the future of Coventry City Football Club, us the supporters.

Like the key players will be listening and bothered by the “rallying call” :emoji_rolling_eyes:
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You can only send out the invitation. Again, surely that is a good thing, to try and get all involved parties there. As I mentioned above, it will be interesting to see who turns up.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 12, 2019
  • #48
Liquid Gold said:
Tweeted something along the lines of ‘10 games till homeless, what are you doing Tim and Joy’
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Was going to post about the meeting being a positive but it seems one step forward, ten steps back.
 

chiefdave

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  • Jan 12, 2019
  • #49
Irish Sky Blue said:
Also isn’t in Sisu’s power to stop their action so that a deal can be negotiated.
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If that's what you're betting the future of the club on you might as well start planning what you're going to do with all your free Saturdays next season.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 12, 2019
  • #50
Irish Sky Blue said:
You can only send out the invitation. Again, surely that is a good thing, to try and get all involved parties there. As I mentioned above, it will be interesting to see who turns up.
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I believe Jim Cunningham, Boddy and someone from London wasps are expected to attend.
 
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Irish Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 12, 2019
  • #51
clint van damme said:
I believe Jim Cunningham, Boddy and someone from London wasps are expected to attend.
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That in itself is good so far. If Tim comes along (which I doubt) iwill he be representing Sisu, CCFC or both? In all seriousness, it would be good to have someone from Sisu there.
 

clint van damme

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  • Jan 12, 2019
  • #52
Irish Sky Blue said:
That in itself is good so far. If Tim comes along (which I doubt) iwill he be representing Sisu, CCFC or both? In all seriousness, it would be good to have someone from Sisu there.
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I don't think that is going to happen mate
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 12, 2019
  • #53
Liquid Gold said:
Tweeted something along the lines of ‘10 games till homeless, what are you doing Tim and Joy’

Fuck the trust
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Why is it not true?

Stop burying your head in the sand.
So if the trust do nothing you moan fuck the trust.
When they do something you say fuck the trust.


Bury
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 12, 2019
  • #54
letsallsingtogether said:
Must have missed that one.
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Have fun trying to be credible with this clown on the board.

 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 12, 2019
  • #55
Nick said:


Have fun trying to be credible with this clown on the board.

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Sorry but don't know who that is?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 12, 2019
  • #56
letsallsingtogether said:
Sorry but don't know who that is?
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He's on the board now isn't he? Just joined it.

Unless we are playing the act naive game where nobody knows anything

Good luck with that!
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 12, 2019
  • #57
letsallsingtogether said:
Why is it not true?

Stop burying your head in the sand.
So if the trust do nothing you moan fuck the trust.
When they do something you say fuck the trust.


Bury
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That’s snow not sand
 
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ccfctommy

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 12, 2019
  • #58
Liquid Gold said:
Tweeted something along the lines of ‘10 games till homeless, what are you doing Tim and Joy’

Fuck the trust
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What's wrong with that?
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 13, 2019
  • #59
Nick said:


Have fun trying to be credible with this clown on the board.

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Nick do you not get it what is your agenda then?

I only care about CCFC you on the other hand go out of your way to discredit everyone Why these people also care about OUR club.
So someone has tweeted some shit or put a post on here you or I don't like, grow up look past it we need to save our club.

The meeting might be a load of ballony might not solve anything but giving it a go doesn't hurt.
 
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SkyBlueZack

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 13, 2019
  • #60
How can they care about the club when there tying to create division by calling ST holders nobs? Surely it’s alienating fans like SISU have done. The problem people have with the trust is they don’t act/behave any better than SISU. They call ST holders nobs and make digs whenever they can. They need to be diplomatic, they are anything but that.
 

CJ_covblaze

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 13, 2019
  • #61
SkyBlueZack said:
How can they care about the club when there tying to create division by calling ST holders nobs? Surely it’s alienating fans like SISU have done. The problem people have with the trust is they don’t act/behave any better than SISU. They call ST holders nobs and make digs whenever they can. They need to be diplomatic, they are anything but that
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We haven’t called season ticket holders “nobs”. Why would we? We don’t think that about our fan base and people on our board.
 
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Magwitch

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  • Jan 13, 2019
  • #62
SkyBlueZack said:
How can they care about the club when there tying to create division by calling ST holders nobs? Surely it’s alienating fans like SISU have done. The problem people have with the trust is they don’t act/behave any better than SISU. They call ST holders nobs and make digs whenever they can. They need to be diplomatic, they are anything but that.
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Give examples !
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 13, 2019
  • #63
letsallsingtogether said:
Nick do you not get it what is your agenda then?

I only care about CCFC you on the other hand go out of your way to discredit everyone Why these people also care about OUR club.
So someone has tweeted some shit or put a post on here you or I don't like, grow up look past it we need to save our club.

The meeting might be a load of ballony might not solve anything but giving it a go doesn't hurt.
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My agenda is ccfc.

Do I discredit everyone, or just people who purposely try and mislead fans? People who clearly do have agendas that aren't ccfc. Do they care about the club? My issue is that from what they say they clearly don't, he seems to prefer cov United anyway.

Their whole aim is to mislead and divide the fans, it's exactly what people moan about sisu doing. Can you not see that?

Have I ever mentioned moz for example? Only time I have is saying that he is there week in week out and in the family zone and is a good example!
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 13, 2019
  • #64
CJ_covblaze said:
We haven’t called season ticket holders “nobs”. Why would we? We don’t think that about our fan base and people on our board.
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I've posted a link to a board member doing it...jhw also used to RT nonsense like that.

It's really not hard to get. You might not think that, other board members seem to. The same as they think people on here don't matter
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 13, 2019
  • #65
SkyBlueZack said:
How can they care about the club when there tying to create division by calling ST holders nobs? Surely it’s alienating fans like SISU have done. The problem people have with the trust is they don’t act/behave any better than SISU. They call ST holders nobs and make digs whenever they can. They need to be diplomatic, they are anything but that.
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Who has called them Nobs one bloke big deal the Chair of the trust is a STH ffs,.
That's what I mean about an agenda one person says or writes something people on here try to say that is the organisation.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 13, 2019
  • #66
letsallsingtogether said:
Who has called them Nobs one bloke big deal the Chair of the trust is a STH ffs,.
That's what I mean about an agenda one person says or writes something people on here try to say that is the organisation.
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The irony is you really struggle to see the point through the blind loyalty.

Yes, the chair man has a st and does a lot of good. I don't think anybody has mentioned him and I've made a point of making that clear! Have I said CJ has an agenda?

Keep sweeping things under the carpet.

You mention agendas, explain that board member. Heavily involved with the council and cov United, purposely makes things up to mislead ccfc fans day in / day out. What's the agenda there then?

Let me guess "I don't know who you are talking about?"
 
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Irish Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 13, 2019
  • #67
So a whole organisation is defined by one of it’s members then.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 13, 2019
  • #68
Irish Sky Blue said:
So a whole organisation is defined by one of it’s members then.
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Well me and you I assume are members.

We aren't the people who are involved in making statements and generally pushing things.

Board members of course are different to normal members. They are the ones claiming to represent the fans and speaking on behalf of them. They are the ones some fans turn to for information.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 13, 2019
  • #69
letsallsingtogether said:
Who has called them Nobs one bloke big deal the Chair of the trust is a STH ffs,.
That's what I mean about an agenda one person says or writes something people on here try to say that is the organisation.
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Irish Sky Blue said:
So a whole organisation is defined by one of it’s members then.
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The problem is, and this happens in all walks of life, when a person is strongly associated with an organisation what they do reflects on that organisation.

Rightly or wrongly that's what happens and others get tarnished.
 
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Nick

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  • Jan 13, 2019
  • #70
clint van damme said:
The problem is, and this happens in all walks of life, when a person is strongly associated with an organisation what they do reflects on that organisation.

Rightly or wrongly that's what happens and others get tarnished.
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I've been trying to point that out, people like CJ and moz try hard and can't be doubted. Then you have others alongside them throwing grenades.

They don't understand it
 
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