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Evo1883

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  • Mar 11, 2021
  • #106
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Again though, it is all this fictional utopia stuff.

If a gang of men


London is only getting rougher as well. This utopia doesn't exist.
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Everywhere is dangerous in its own ways..... And I imagine there will never be a point in the future where they aren't, Wether a man stayed in or not... The wronguns would find a way

At no point are we completely safe in life, no point at all

What we are already forgetting here, is there is potentially a women involved in this murder
 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • Mar 11, 2021
  • #107
Skybluefaz said:
Oh I see, cheers.
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Police have denied providing this advice, at least officially.
 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • Mar 11, 2021
  • #108
Skybluefaz said:
The point is if women say that would help, I listen and act. I am a man, not a young one anymore. I can use my own experiences to judge how I act around other men when I'm out and about for the most part. Why would you not listen to women?
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And if men were to say that you would do the same? Do you not think that it's less easy for a man to say that rather than a woman, so perhaps in fact you should just be doing it anyway?
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Mar 11, 2021
  • #109
dubed said:
And if men were to say that you would do the same? Do you not think that it's less easy for a man to say that rather than a woman, so perhaps in fact you should just be doing it anyway?
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I have admitted I will probably change my behaviour particularly when walking near Women. I can't do anything other than hold my hands up and admit that I probably should have been doing it anyway. That might make me a bit thick in your eyes or something, I dunno. Toxic masculinity is a massive problem. Men should be able to open up without fear of being labelled weak or whatever. Lord knows that can lead to all sorts of other issues.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Mar 11, 2021
  • #110
Joe Talbot said it best

"Sexual violence doesn't start and end with rape
It starts in our books and behind our school gates
Men are scared women will laugh in their face
Whereas women are scared it's their lives men will take"
 
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Evo1883

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  • Mar 11, 2021
  • #111
Skybluefaz said:
I have admitted I will probably change my behaviour particularly when walking near Women. I can't do anything other than hold my hands up and admit that I probably should have been doing it anyway. That might make me a bit thick in your eyes or something, I dunno. Toxic masculinity is a massive problem. Men should be able to open up without fear of being labelled weak or whatever. Lord knows that can lead to all sorts of other issues.
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What will you do, pull out a flute and play a rendition of East 17s it's all right whilst walking 500 metres away with your head facing the wall and a sticker on your back saying im not going to hurt you?

It's impractical nonsense

I will continue life as I do, because I'm no danger to women... Wether they trust me or not If I'm walking to the shop or my old man's at night isn't really an issue for me to address and certainly not one I will make an effort to address either
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Mar 11, 2021
  • #112
Evo1883 said:
What will you do, pull out a flute and play a rendition of East 17s it's all right whilst walking 500 metres away with your head facing the wall and a sticker on your back saying im not going to hurt you?

It's impractical nonsense

I will continue life as I do, because I'm no danger to women... Wether they trust me or not isn't really an issue for me to address and certainly not one I will make an effort to address either
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Fair enough. You do you. If it would make someone feel less threatened if I crossed the road though I'll try and be more conscious to do that.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Mar 11, 2021
  • #113
Skybluefaz said:
Fair enough. You do you. If it would make someone feel less threatened if I crossed the road though I'll try and be more conscious to do that.
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I'd argue mate, the more you try and act in a different way... The more strange you may appear to women
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Mar 11, 2021
  • #114
Evo1883 said:
I'd argue mate, the more you try and act in a different way... The more strange you may appear to women
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Yeah but you aren't a woman! And women are saying this would help therefore their lived experience is more help than your guess to me. I'll just finish on the subject with this last thing. Genuinely from the response from many women I was surprised they felt so threatened. It made me think about what I do, and I'll probably make more effort to do little things that might help.
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 11, 2021
  • #115
Skybluefaz said:
Yeah but you aren't a woman! And women are saying this would help therefore their lived experience is more help than your guess to me. I'll just finish on the subject with this last thing. Genuinely from the response from many women I was surprised they felt so threatened. It made me think about what I do, and I'll probably make more effort to do little things that might help.
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Well I have female family, I asked my sister, and my step mom, my missus .. Their opinion is different yours and the attention seekers on twitter.

Who to believe?

I'm not a women but I have women to talk to and ask
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 11, 2021
  • #116
Nick said:
I dont tend to make a habit of walking behind women at night on my own
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Not since the court order, anyway.
 
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SG21

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  • Mar 11, 2021
  • #117
Nick isn't following them. He's following his shadow.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Mar 11, 2021
  • #118
Skybluefaz said:
I have admitted I will probably change my behaviour particularly when walking near Women. I can't do anything other than hold my hands up and admit that I probably should have been doing it anyway. That might make me a bit thick in your eyes or something, I dunno. Toxic masculinity is a massive problem. Men should be able to open up without fear of being labelled weak or whatever. Lord knows that can lead to all sorts of other issues.
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'Toxic' masculinity is another shitty label that gets thrown around really.
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 11, 2021
  • #119
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
'Toxic' masculinity is another shitty label that gets thrown around really.
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Yes and women can be toxic as fuck too, especially when in power of something, as my missus has just proved to me
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 11, 2021
  • #120
Ultimatley a young lady has lost her life to a weird sick fuck... That will still happen in the future irrespective if what you do to change how people feel
 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • Mar 11, 2021
  • #121
Evo1883 said:
I'd argue mate, the more you try and act in a different way... The more strange you may appear to women
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In fairness, when in the past I have done this it has felt that I'm giving out exaggerated signals and therefore might actually be giving concern, especially if I have done this in an 'obvious' way; but it's hard to know how the other person perceives it.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 11, 2021
  • #122
Even I would find it hard to cross the road in a way that made me look more odd than normal.
 
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oakey

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  • Mar 11, 2021
  • #123
Evo1883 said:
I'd argue mate, the more you try and act in a different way... The more strange you may appear to women
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Not at all. Women notice when men are thoughtful and considerate. It's about common decency and empathy. Giving a disabled person a bit extra space, allowing a pushchair user time to navigate a doorway, holding a door open, please and thankyou, keeping your distance in a queue.
Some people lack manners and respect for others
 
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Sbarcher

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  • Mar 11, 2021
  • #124
The blokes been arrested so that should give comfort to all. If we were nervous about "possibilities" we'd never leave home and let terrorists and bad'uns rule our lives.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Mar 11, 2021
  • #125
Sbarcher said:
The blokes been arrested so that should give comfort to all. If we were nervous about "possibilities" we'd never leave home and let terrorists and bad'uns rule our lives.
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You say that but it is very different when as a woman after dark everyone makes you nervous.

You are hardly going to have to worry about "terrorists" walking down a darkened side street at night
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Mar 11, 2021
  • #126
Evo1883 said:
I'd argue mate, the more you try and act in a different way... The more strange you may appear to women
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In fairness, slightly off topic, if I ever want to seduce a woman, I just normally do the opposite of what I think is right.

I.e. Ignore them instead of being nice.

Anyway, back to the debate...
 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • Mar 11, 2021
  • #127
David O'Day said:
You say that but it is very different when as a woman after dark everyone makes you nervous.
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Bit condescending that, and stereotypical in terms of both men and women.
 
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Nick

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  • Mar 11, 2021
  • #128
Now saying he was found in a cell with serious head injuries??
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 11, 2021
  • #129
Yikes. The Met not exactly covering themselves in glory here.
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 11, 2021
  • #130
Oh well, few slaps never hurt any sick c**t
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Mar 11, 2021
  • #131
What a surprise people in power abusing their position to perform atrocities. Disgusting. Such a sad story.
 

Nick

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  • Mar 11, 2021
  • #132
Could have been self harm?
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 11, 2021
  • #133
hahaha fucking try it, bet it goes well
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Mar 11, 2021
  • #134
Evo1883 said:
View attachment 19125hahaha fucking try it, bet it goes well
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If you watch it it was a tongue in cheek comment responding to the met suggesting women stay inside.
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 11, 2021
  • #135
Ccfcisparks said:
If you watch it it was a tongue in cheek comment responding to the met suggesting women stay inside.
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Ah OK fair enough... Alot of anti men sentiment on social media atm so it's hard to figure out what's legit or not
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Mar 11, 2021
  • #136
Evo1883 said:
Ah OK fair enough... Alot of anti men sentiment on social media atm so it's hard to figure out what's legit or not
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Yeah there is. Social media is never a good way of gauging either side of an argument. I’ve learnt that the last couple of weeks with this and the Meghan situation.
 
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Nick

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  • Mar 11, 2021
  • #137
Evo1883 said:
Ah OK fair enough... Alot of anti men sentiment on social media atm so it's hard to figure out what's legit or not
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Just had a woman on the news saying how it's time to have a discussion including men rather than women having to do everything to feel safe.

I just don't get what they want the vast majority of men to do who have no intention of harming anybody. Vigilante group?

I don't think women should be forced to stay indoors at all, I think any fucking nonce or rapist should be severely beaten.
 

clint van damme

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  • Mar 11, 2021
  • #138
SBT said:
Yikes. The Met not exactly covering themselves in glory here.
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by far the dodgiest police force in the UK.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Mar 11, 2021
  • #139
Nick said:
Just had a woman on the news saying how it's time to have a discussion including men rather than women having to do everything to feel safe.

I just don't get what they want the vast majority of men to do who have no intention of harming anybody. Vigilante group?

I don't think women should be forced to stay indoors at all, I think any fucking nonce or rapist should be severely beaten.
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What does that even mean, it's just nonsense.
How would you have identified this MET officer in order to dish out this treatment to him?
 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • Mar 11, 2021
  • #140
Ccfcisparks said:
If you watch it it was a tongue in cheek comment responding to the met suggesting women stay inside.
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Met have denied they did this.
 
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