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[hill83]

Equality or some mad shit like that.

Thread about a murdered woman turns into having a go at feminists. Fucking hell.

He always brings it back to him and how he has been affected.

 

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[SBT]

What a coincidence - the one woman most worth listening to in this whole debate is the one saying men shouldn't be made to feel uncomfortable!

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Equality or some mad shit like that.

Thread about a murdered woman turns into having a go at feminists. Fucking hell.

Nope. Wrong.

Topic about murdered woman escalates into a platform for feminists to spread their man hating bilge. An attempt to counteract that is then shot down, and the offended brigade come out and get on their high horse regarding opinions of (another woman) Davina McCall for saying something that is completely common sense.

If it is equality you want, do you want me to cross a road for a member of the opposite sex or not? Which one is it?

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

He always brings it back to him and how he has been affected.

Standing up for women and standing up for men doesn't have to be one or the other.

 

[hill83]

Surely the ultimate goal is for us to not cross the road? But if there’s crying and whinging and pushback at even the slightest hint of self awareness and movement we won’t get anywhere.

 

[oakey]

I demand the right to pee standing up against a tree or fence when I'm out for a walk

 

[hill83]

Standing up for women and standing up for men doesn't have to be one or the other.

Don’t even know what this is supposed to mean.

 

[hill83]

I’m out anyway. You fucking annoy me so much. Ha ha
I disagree with absolutely everything you say on everything.

 

[Skybluefaz]

Nope. Wrong.

Topic about murdered woman escalates into a platform for feminists to spread their man hating bilge. An attempt to counteract that is then shot down, and the offended brigade come out and get on their high horse regarding opinions of (another woman) Davina McCall for saying something that is completely common sense.

If it is equality you want, do you want me to cross a road for a member of the opposite sex or not? Which one is it?

Who has been spreading man hating bilge? Offended brigade? Utter drivel yet again from you.

 

[SBT]

Why did @Earlsdon_Skyblue1 cross the road?

To get to the other side I WILL NOT BE MUZZLED LIKE A DOG, NO SPECIAL TREATMENT FOR ANYONE I SAY, TAKE THAT MEN-HATERS

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Don’t even know what this is supposed to mean.

It means you can care about the welfare of both men and women without having to take sides.

 

[hill83]

It means you can care about the welfare of both men and women without having to take sides.

Why are you even saying that. Are you trying to say I’m against myself? Because I’m not. What’s your point. I’m against the fucking idiots that pop up in every thread saying the same bollocks in every thread.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Who has been spreading man hating bilge? Offended brigade? Utter drivel yet again from you.

How is any of that drivel? You have the internet, go and have a look.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Why did @Earlsdon_Skyblue1 cross the road?

To get to the other side I WILL NOT BE MUZZLED LIKE A DOG, NO SPECIAL TREATMENT FOR ANYONE I SAY, TAKE THAT MEN-HATERS

That is a fantastic input.

The streets will no doubt be safer now.

 

[Evo1883]

Oakeys a what?!

A woman?

 

[SBT]

Let me try this one then:

If we are not careful we will end up with one demographic constantly wanting special treatment, and an even more unequal society.

'If we're not careful', we'll end up with women wanting help to not be afraid for their own lives? Seems like pretty reasonable "special treatment" to me. I don't see how that makes our society more unequal than it already is - unless, of course, you're just quite comfortable with the current status quo and don't want it changed.

 

[NorthernWisdom]

I still don't get why there's a minority on this thread complaining about being asked to do what, it seems, most of us do anyway!

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Why are you even saying that. Are you trying to say I’m against myself? Because I’m not. What’s your point.

I've literally just explained it.

It means you can care about the welfare of both men and women without having to take sides.

If I say not all men are rapists, no that isn't right.
If I say we should cross the street for women, no that isn't right.
If I say we should all take precautions, no that isn't right.

It isn't about my point, it is about what you, and several others on this thread, as well as places like twitter actually want.

 

[Evo1883]

Hey come on, easy mistake to make... Weve all been to the rowleys Green social back in the day

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Let me try this one then:



'If we're not careful', we'll end up with women wanting help to not be afraid for their own lives? Seems like pretty reasonable "special treatment" to me. I don't see how that makes our society more unequal than it already is - unless, of course, you're just quite comfortable with the current status quo and don't want it changed.

No, what you are saying literally makes no sense.

On the one hand you are screaming for equality, but on the other you want one sex to be treated differently. Which is it?

 

[Marty]

I know this is a proper out there concept in today's world, but shouldn't you take care of your own safety? if you're scared to leave the house after dark then take self defense lessons.

 

[NorthernWisdom]

I know this is a proper out there concept in today's world, but shouldn't you take care of your own safety? if you're scared to leave the house after dark then take self defense lessons.

It seems it's out there to take collective responsibility for one another's safety, for sure...

 

[Ian1779]

I know this is a proper out there concept in today's world, but shouldn't you take care of your own safety? if you're scared to leave the house after dark then take self defense lessons.

Should self defence even have to exist?

 

[NorthernWisdom]

Personally I'm going for the smug and self-satisfied feeling that comes with doing much of what's asked by most, intermingled with slight embarrassment that for years it never occurred to me how some things may be perceived.

In doing that I feel no less of a man, my son.

 

[Evo1883]

Should self defence even have to exist?

Ideal world no

 

[Skybluefaz]

I know this is a proper out there concept in today's world, but shouldn't you take care of your own safety? if you're scared to leave the house after dark then take self defense lessons.

HE WANTS TO DEFUND THE POLICE. SNOWFLAKE LEFTY.

 

[Marty]

Should self defence even have to exist?

We don't live in a perfect world, so yes it does need to exist.

 

[SBT]

No, what you are saying literally makes no sense.

On the one hand you are screaming for equality, but on the other you want one sex to be treated differently. Which is it?

I want us to accept the reality that men and women are treated differently, and change our behaviour to account for that, in the hope it will make things more fair. Does that make sense?

Equality doesn't mean 'treat everyone the same', it means helping people out where it's needed to level things out.

 

[Marty]

It seems it's out there to take collective responsibility for one another's safety, for sure...

What about the personal responsibility? If you feel scared in a certain situation, surely the onus is on you to learn the skills to deal with those situations.

 

[hill83]

What about the personal responsibility? If you feel scared in a certain situation, surely the onus is on you to learn the skills to deal with those situations.

Looks like I’m learning to become a pilot, and spider handler and a final five minutes of a game when we are 1-0 up specialist then.

 

[Marty]

Looks like I’m learning to become a pilot, and spider handler and a final five minutes of a game when we are 1-0 up specialist then.

What is wrong with making steps that over come your fears?

 

[ajsccfc]

Equality is more of a goal rather than a rule, you'd logically have to treat some people differently to get them to the point others already are

 

[hill83]

What is wrong with making steps that over come your fears?

I didn’t say there was. I was making a joke.

 

[Ian1779]

We don't live in a perfect world, so yes it does need to exist.

We should aspire to make it irrelevant at the very least.

 

[Marty]

I didn’t say there was. I was making a joke.

I know you were, implying it was a stupid idea, it's the most logic step for people to take.