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mr_monkey

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #526
PVA said:
Lovely stuff. The amount of stick I got in here for suggesting a lad who had played most of his life as a winger could play further forward than wing back
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I don't think anyone disagreed with him playing out wide left like he did against Cardiff and appears to be tonight, it was as an attacking midfielder that people questioned (and they still should as he hasn't played that role yet)
 

Greggs

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #527
cc84 [QUOTE="mr_monkey said:
Other than the fact Giles is playing in a completely different role to Allen (the same as he played last week out wide left where he has played a lot of his career)

Now if he was playing cam in the same role as Allen then you would have a point but he isn't

But I will agree on the disappointment of Allen this season, I thought he would kick on but unfortunately hasn't
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Didn't Allen used to play left/right hand side of an attacking 3 though? Anyway, i win this discussion. haha
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #528
PVA said:
Lovely stuff. The amount of stick I got in here for suggesting a lad who had played most of his life as a winger could play further forward than wing back
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He is playing as a winger, which nobody said he couldn’t. We said he couldn’t play as an ACM, which he isn’t.

What is wrong with you lot, are you being intentionally dim?
 

mr_monkey

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #529
Greggs said:
Didn't Allen used to play left/right hand side of an attacking 3 though? Anyway, i win this discussion. haha
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Nope as part of a two centrally behind a one... If he played left wing I'd question the sanity of the manager
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #530
Liquid Gold said:
He is playing as a winger, which nobody said he couldn’t. We said he couldn’t play as an ACM, which he isn’t.

What is wrong with you lot, are you being intentionally dim?
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He's playing as an inside forward, assuming he starts on the right.

People went utterly mental at the suggestion of him playing anywhere but wing back.

He is now playing somewhere other than wing back.
 

Greggs

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #531
PVA said:
He's playing as an inside forward, assuming he starts on the right.

People went utterly mental at the suggestion of him playing anywhere but wing back.

He is now playing somewhere other than wing back.
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I used to hate this forum, but as soon as i decided not to take the attacks personally - i quite enjoy it. Lots of entertainment to be had haha
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #532
PVA said:
He's playing as an inside forward, assuming he starts on the right.

People went utterly mental at the suggestion of him playing anywhere but wing back.

He is now playing somewhere other than wing back.
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No, people went mental at the idea of playing an obvious wide player through the middle.

If you want to claim this as a win then go ahead but it probably means you get no wins elsewhere.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #533
mr_monkey said:
Nope as part of a two centrally behind a one... If he played left wing I'd question the sanity of the manager
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He probably drifted out wide once and that forever meant he was playing as a winger.
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #534
Liquid Gold said:
He probably drifted out wide once and that forever meant he was playing as a winger.
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In the same way that Giles played a few games at LWB and forever meant he's a wing back?
 

Greggs

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #535
Liquid Gold said:
He probably drifted out wide once and that forever meant he was playing as a winger.
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I never said Allen was a winger, Giles wont be used as one tonight either. I'm guessing Giles Shipley Ohare in behind Walker, woth the 3 being very fluid
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #536
PVA said:
In the same way that Giles played a few games at LWB and forever meant he's a wing back?
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Wing back and winger are very similar positions mate. Sorry to break it to you but they are both, as is inside forward, very different to attacking central midfielder (which if you’ll see us what everyone was arguing against).

Bump the thread when he plays there mate.
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #537
Liquid Gold said:
Wing back and winger are very similar positions mate. Sorry to break it to you but they are both, as is inside forward, very different to attacking central midfielder (which if you’ll see us what everyone was arguing against).

Bump the thread when he plays there mate.
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But the two behind the striker in the box formation are very fluid. Allen spent most of the first half on Saturday playing down the left. That role is similar to an inside forward. Agree its very different to a winger.
 

mr_monkey

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #538
Greggs said:
I never said Allen was a winger, Giles wont be used as one tonight either. I'm guessing Giles Shipley Ohare in behind Walker, woth the 3 being very fluid
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Fluid 4 then with Giles and O'Hare on the wings
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #539
Liquid Gold said:
Wing back and winger are very similar positions mate. Sorry to break it to you but they are both, as is inside forward, very different to attacking central midfielder (which if you’ll see us what everyone was arguing against).

Bump the thread when he plays there mate.
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Bumped as requested.

A lot of people owe me (and a few others) an apology. I'll wait.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #540
PVA said:
Bumped as requested.

A lot of people owe me (and a few others) an apology. I'll wait.
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He came on for two minutes and played on the right. I’ll keep waiting for him to start a game as an ACM
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #541
He did not play on the right ffs, he played CAM, where you said he couldn't possibly play. But you probably couldn't tell with all that egg on your face.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #542
PVA said:
He did not play on the right ffs, he played CAM, where you said he couldn't possibly play. But you probably couldn't tell with all that egg on your face.
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Of course he did mate. You bump this thread every few games when you’re wrong again.
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #543
If you don't think he came on in one of the AM slots behind the striker there is literally no helping you. I can only assume you're just unwilling to admit you are wrong, because there is no way anyone could say he played anywhere other than AM just now.

It was so blatant where he played
 

ms639

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  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #544
PVA said:
Bumped as requested.

A lot of people owe me (and a few others) an apology. I'll wait.
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I’ll take one of those apologies. Thanks


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
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superskyblue

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  • Dec 17, 2020
  • #545
He might have been brought on in the CAM position and it could be a strange coincidence he spent the whole two minutes he was on the pitch hugging the right touch line. 2 minutes probably not a big enough sample size to judge. In my opinion he was sent on to attack their left full back and not play CAM.
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 17, 2020
  • #546
superskyblue said:
He might have been brought on in the CAM position and it could be a strange coincidence he spent the whole two minutes he was on the pitch hugging the right touch line. 2 minutes probably not a big enough sample size to judge. In my opinion he was sent on to attack their left full back and not play CAM.
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When he went on he went straight to the middle of the pitch. Did he drift out wide? Absolutely. But that's what that position is for. O'Hare spends a lot of time on the flanks, in fact he spent more time on the right wing than in the middle last night but that does not mean he played right wing.

That CAM position is so flexible, which is why Giles can play there and which is why it's so strange that some people think it's akin to asking Godden to play Right back or something.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Dec 17, 2020
  • #547
I just watched this back.

When he comes on he take up a position just in advance of Da Costa, was he playing CB? No, he was playing RWB.



He then proceeds to spend the rest of the game on the right






To say he was playing ACM is an absolute falsehood.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Dec 17, 2020
  • #548
Liquid Gold said:
I just watched this back.

When he comes on he take up a position just in advance of Da Costa, was he playing CB? No, he was playing RWB.

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He then proceeds to spend the rest of the game on the right

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To say he was playing ACM is an absolute falsehood.
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So you think we lined up last night in midfield with two DMs an AM and a RW??
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 17, 2020
  • #549
shmmeee said:
So you think we lined up last night in midfield with two DMs an AM and a RW??
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Apparently so.

O'Hare must have played right wing all night too.

Credit to Robins for thinking outside the box with such a lopsided formation. Playing a wing back and a winger is also a bold move.
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 17, 2020
  • #550
Ostigard played as a virtual right winger in the dying minutes against Norwich perhaps he will be the next Tommy Hutchison - then again maybe not
 
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shmmeee

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  • Dec 17, 2020
  • #551
Grendel said:
Ostigard played as a virtual right winger in the dying minutes against Norwich perhaps he will be the next Tommy Hutchison - then again maybe not
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Also known as the right sided CB of a back three. You’ll notice Hyam pushing forward on the left too.

So far we’ve had Robins say Giles’ best position is a number 10 role and Giles come on for a player playing number 10 and playing in the same way.

But Giles is never a number 10 because SBT says so.

If we did play Dabo at DM next match no doubt we’d have all the tactical experts telling us how RWBs often spend their time in the middle of the pitch just in front of the CBs
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 17, 2020
  • #552
Ah yes, good point. I forgot that Mark Robins himself said that Giles has played as a number 10.


But of course SBT knows that he has never played as a number 10, and can ONLY play as a wing back or at a push as a winger.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Dec 17, 2020
  • #553
shmmeee said:
Also known as the right sided CB of a back three. You’ll notice Hyam pushing forward on the left too.

So far we’ve had Robins say Giles’ best position is a number 10 role and Giles come on for a player playing number 10 and playing in the same way.

But Giles is never a number 10 because SBT says so.

If we did play Dabo at DM next match no doubt we’d have all the tactical experts telling us how RWBs often spend their time in the middle of the pitch just in front of the CBs
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I wish he wouldn't. He lost the ball on near-on every occasion when he attempted to bring the ball out himself last night. He doesn't have the speed to do it.
 
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superskyblue

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  • Dec 17, 2020
  • #554
Liquid Gold said:
I just watched this back.

When he comes on he take up a position just in advance of Da Costa, was he playing CB? No, he was playing RWB.

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He then proceeds to spend the rest of the game on the right

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To say he was playing ACM is an absolute falsehood.
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Spot on.
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 17, 2020
  • #555
superskyblue said:
Spot on.
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Do you think Callum O'Hare was playing right wing?
 
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superskyblue

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  • Dec 17, 2020
  • #556
PVA said:
Do you think Callum O'Hare was playing right wing?
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No, do you?

When Giles came on he was clearly under different instruction to O'Hare. Managers are allowed to change shape/instructions mid-match.
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 17, 2020
  • #557
Come to think of it years ago I should have said Stephen Hughes should play in goal and when it happened bump my thread to show my expert football knowledge
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 17, 2020
  • #558
superskyblue said:
No, do you?

When Giles came on he was clearly under different instruction to O'Hare. Managers are allowed to change shape/instructions mid-match.
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No, I don't.


But O'Hare spent most of his time on the right flank so I assumed that you thought that meant he was playing right wing. Because apparently you're not allowed to drift out wide when playing AMC.
 
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superskyblue

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  • Dec 17, 2020
  • #559
PVA said:
No, I don't.


But O'Hare spent most of his time on the right flank so I assumed that you thought that meant he was playing right wing. Because apparently you're not allowed to drift out wide when playing AMC.
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Robins must ask his right wingers not to drift inside at all because Giles certainly never left that right flank.
 

cc84cov

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  • Dec 17, 2020
  • #560
superskyblue said:
Robins must ask his right wingers not to drift inside at all because Giles certainly never left that right flank.
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It’s called keeping the width
 
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