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clint van damme

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  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #736
Grendel said:
Care to address other aspects of his post?
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Although I pretty much agree with the sentiment, it was a little harsh in tone!!
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #737
clint van damme said:
Although I pretty much agree with the sentiment, it was a little harsh in tone!!
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He brings it on himself. As soon as they arrived he was on the fans forum of theirs telling people to park on his land.
 
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italiahorse

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  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #738
Grendel said:
He brings it on himself. As soon as they arrived he was on the fans forum of theirs telling people to park on his land.
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No need to defend me I'm doing okay thanks.
 
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CCFC54321

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  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #739
Anybody that clicks through the turnstiles of a wasps game should be ashamed of themselves.

I wish that one day CRFC rise along with ourselfs and drive wasps out of business.

Who do they represent? Sports about representing something? Wasps don't represent anything? How the f***can anyone get passionate about wasps?

I don't get it I really don't just like I don't get fine ART.
 
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italiahorse

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  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #740
CCFC54321 said:
Anybody that clicks through the turnstiles of a wasps game should be ashamed of themselves.

I wish that one day CRFC rise along with ourselfs and drive wasps out of business.

Who do they represent? Sports about representing something? Wasps don't represent anything? How the f***can anyone get passionate about wasps?

I don't get it I really don't just like I don't get fine ART.
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Why should we be ashamed of ourselves, particularly if we live in Warwickshire?
CRFC have had increased interest since Wasps have been here.
Coventry is becoming the city of rugby as well with both Wasps and CRFC helping the cause.
 
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robofcov

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  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #741
Harsh ??? I apologise sorry he showed no interest in egg chasing what so ever until the stadium robbers rocked up on his doorstep now he is the worlds authority on what they are going to do because he pockets a few quid. To answer his reply id rather go to the butts than watch plastics at the ricoh .
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #742
italiahorse said:
Why should we be ashamed of ourselves, particularly if we live in Warwickshire?
CRFC have had increased interest since Wasps have been here.
Coventry is becoming the city of rugby as well with both Wasps and CRFC helping the cause.
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Lol. Nick Eastwood is either in bed literally with Italia or he's got an instant access to his account.

That's straight out of that slimy wankers PR book of bullshit.
 
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italiahorse

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  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #743
robofcov said:
Harsh ??? I apologise sorry he showed no interest in egg chasing what so ever until the stadium robbers rocked up on his doorstep now he is the worlds authority on what they are going to do because he pockets a few quid. To answer his reply id rather go to the butts than watch plastics at the ricoh .
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No interest, Did you miss the bit about Cov Welsh Ladies ?
Or are you a hypocrite and it has to be CRFC or nothing (Quote: Supported who ???)
 

torchomatic

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  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #744
italiahorse said:
No interest, Did you miss the bit about Cov Welsh Ladies ?
Or are you a hypocrite and it has to be CRFC or nothing (Quote: Supported who ???)
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Mmm...hypocrisy...moan about Sixfields...embrace Wasps...
 
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italiahorse

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  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #745
torchomatic said:
Mmm...hypocrisy...moan about Sixfields...embrace Wasps...
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Whats not to moan about Sixfields ?
I'll leave the Ricoh moaning to travelling Wasps fans.
Oh hang on, they seem to have got over it.
 

Irish Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #746
italiahorse said:
Do you know how close Wasps were only a few years ago to finishing ?
A fact used by their existing fans as a reason for moving here.
Would you say it has made good business sense for them?
Affinity to Coventry and Warwickshire takes years.
But it's happening and we need to work along with it.
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Wasps arrival in Coventry was supposed to have no adverse effect on the two existing clubs. I cannot see how Wasps being here has any positive effect on the football club. Their arrival has, on the face of it, taken away any chance of us owning the stadium that was built for us. With regard to Cov, they are a club that has a much richer heritage than Wasps and yet now have to play second fiddle to a a club parachuted in from 90 miles away. Can our City successfully support two senior rugby teams? If one has to go which one will it be?
Finally I am sure that there are lots of dedicated Wasps fans living in London who have simply lost their club, a club that would be every bit as much a part of their lives as CCFC are to us. If City up sticks and moved to London, how many of our fan base would still go and support them? How many 5 years after the move? Not many I would think.
Franchising sports teams is wrong. Wasps have no affinity with this area. They should not be here but back home in London.
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #747
italiahorse said:
Whats not to moan about Sixfields ?
I'll leave the Ricoh moaning to travelling Wasps fans.
Oh hang on, they seem to have got over it.
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A - you're right, there's everything to moan about regarding Sixfields.
B - many of them haven't, but you don't care about there thoughts on the matter. I'm amazed you can't see the hypocrisy.
 

Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #748
torchomatic said:
Mmm...hypocrisy...moan aboutCCC/Wasps/Higgs/ACL ...embrace..Sixfields...
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Corrected it for you Torchy.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #749
italiahorse said:
Hope you support the offer on Tuesday regardless !!
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italiahorse said:
Could be solved by Wednesday ?
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #750
italiahorse said:
Whats not to moan about Sixfields ?
I'll leave the Ricoh moaning to travelling Wasps fans.
Oh hang on, they seem to have got over it.
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Or just never go at all. As old Nicky says 92% of wasps fans are CV post code dwellers. So at 15,000 average that means 1,300 aren't and some of them will be from Birmingham postcodes.
 
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robofcov

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  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #751
Why am i a hypocrite i watched the local rugby team you on the other hand watched Cov welsh ladies (did they pay you for parking) then went from watching them
to being the cheerleader for a franchise rugby team without getting off your arse and watching the local team well maybe not to you but i live in Bedworth doesnt cut any ice as if you supported city home and away for 50 years a quick bus hop to Coundon road/ Bpa wouldnt have been to difficult if you wanted to take in a league (and being the same age as me by your 50 year comment ) top flight rugby match. Admit it you had no interest in top flight rugby until the opportunity arrived for you to earn from it
 
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CCFC54321

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #752
If CRFC got investment and made it back to the premiership how many 'wasps supporters' would watch them then? I'll tell you now no one would as the turn back to the butts from the ricoh would be like a stampede of wild horses.

Wasps would be gone as a business if CRFC made it back. I pray that day happens...
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #753
robofcov said:
Why am i a hypocrite i watched the local rugby team you on the other hand watched Cov welsh ladies (did they pay you for parking) then went from watching them
to being the cheerleader for a franchise rugby team without getting off your arse and watching the local team well maybe not to you but i live in Bedworth doesnt cut any ice as if you supported city home and away for 50 years a quick bus hop to Coundon road/ Bpa wouldnt have been to difficult if you wanted to take in a league (and being the same age as me by your 50 year comment ) top flight rugby match. Admit it you had no interest in top flight rugby until the opportunity arrived for you to earn from it
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The only reason he watched Cov Welsh ladies was because a relative played for them and he watched her.
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #754
Grendel said:
Or just never go at all. As old Nicky says 92% of wasps fans are CV post code dwellers. So at 15,000 average that means 1,300 aren't and some of them will be from Birmingham postcodes.
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This is where your info is correct but the timing is wrong. (A fault of yours as explained earlier).
The info relates to the first 30K plus game where the majority were from CV postcodes.
I have not seen the latest stats but obviously neither have you.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #755
italiahorse said:
This is where your info is correct but the timing is wrong. (A fault of yours as explained earlier).
The info relates to the first 30K plus game where the majority were from CV postcodes.
I have not seen the latest stats but obviously neither have you.
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So how many original fans support still?

Why for once don't you be honest and admit you couldn't give a fuck if none do?
 
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italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #756
robofcov said:
Why am i a hypocrite i watched the local rugby team you on the other hand watched Cov welsh ladies (did they pay you for parking) then went from watching them
to being the cheerleader for a franchise rugby team without getting off your arse and watching the local team well maybe not to you but i live in Bedworth doesnt cut any ice as if you supported city home and away for 50 years a quick bus hop to Coundon road/ Bpa wouldnt have been to difficult if you wanted to take in a league (and being the same age as me by your 50 year comment ) top flight rugby match. Admit it you had no interest in top flight rugby until the opportunity arrived for you to earn from it
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I don't have to attend the matches to make money.
The fact that I'm there (and get free parking ) I thought I'd try it.
 
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robofcov

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  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #757
But never though about trying it before you could make money out of it
 

blueflint

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #758
Irish Sky Blue said:
Wasps arrival in Coventry was supposed to have no adverse effect on the two existing clubs. I cannot see how Wasps being here has any positive effect on the football club. Their arrival has, on the face of it, taken away any chance of us owning the stadium that was built for us. With regard to Cov, they are a club that has a much richer heritage than Wasps and yet now have to play second fiddle to a a club parachuted in from 90 miles away. Can our City successfully support two senior rugby teams? If one has to go which one will it be?
Finally I am sure that there are lots of dedicated Wasps fans living in London who have simply lost their club, a club that would be every bit as much a part of their lives as CCFC are to us. If City up sticks and moved to London, how many of our fan base would still go and support them? How many 5 years after the move? Not many I would think.
Franchising sports teams is wrong. Wasps have no affinity with this area. They should not be here but back home in London.
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any chance we had of owning the Ricoh went with the rent strike
 
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Irish Sky Blue

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  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #759
blueflint said:
any chance we had of owning the Ricoh went with the rent strike
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Agreed this opened the door for Wasps but until they arrived it was ours for the taking.
 

clint van damme

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  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #760
blueflint said:
any chance we had of owning the Ricoh went with the rent strike
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no it didn't, any chance we had of owning the Ricoh went when the council sold the lease to wasps.
Not excusing sisus behaviour, but selling the lease to wasps didn't just end the chances of our current owners owning the stadium, it pretty much ended the chances of future owners purchasing it for the club.
 
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italiahorse

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  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #761
robofcov said:
But never though about trying it before you could make money out of it
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Never thought about it until I went. Is the money relative to the argument or just annoying to you ?
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #762
Irish Sky Blue said:
Agreed this opened the door for Wasps but until they arrived it was ours for the taking.
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Nope they never wanted to sell until it started to look as if it was a basket case - and when a certain person left. Then Derek Richardson showed interest - made overtures about re-generation and that was it.

Talk to some ex directors pre-sisu and get their take on it.
 
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robofcov

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  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #763
why should it annoy me fair play if they turned hearsall common into the new stadium id sell me off road parking too... but you admit you never thought about it till Wasps rocked up why is that ???? Glory Hunter maybe who knows ......
 

Irish Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #764
blueflint said:
any chance we had of owning the Ricoh went with the rent strike
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Certainly not excusing Sisu's part in this because without Sisu and their Northampton shenanigans there would be no Wasps.
 
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Irish Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #765
Grendel said:
Nope they never wanted to sell until it started to look as if it was a basket case - and when a certain person left. Then Derek Richardson showed interest - made overtures about re-generation and that was it.

Talk to some ex directors pre-sisu and get their take on it.
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City always had the option to buy half but Sisu didn't take up the option.
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #766
Grendel said:
Nope they never wanted to sell until it started to look as if it was a basket case - and when a certain person left. Then Derek Richardson showed interest - made overtures about re-generation and that was it.

Talk to some ex directors pre-sisu and get their take on it.
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Or read the Court ruling and realise that we never had a chance of owning it.
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #767
Irish Sky Blue said:
City always had the option to buy half but Sisu didn't take up the option.
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Exactly this.
Operation premiership took priority and the purchase was put on the back burner.
The first didn't happen so the second couldn't then happen.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #768
Irish Sky Blue said:
City always had the option to buy half but Sisu didn't take up the option.
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Oh yes and the half was at a formulae pribe of £10 million and on a less than 50 year lease.

The director set up meant they'd have no influence at all on strategy.

So the rental would still be £1.3 million a year and no distribution of dividends.

Oh and the veto was still an option.

Would you have done that?
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #769
italiahorse said:
Whats not to moan about Sixfields ?
I'll leave the Ricoh moaning to travelling Wasps fans.
Oh hang on, they seem to have got over it.
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You're a complete idiot, by that logic Sixfields was fine because some fans were OK with it.

Sent from my D6603 using Tapatalk
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #770
italiahorse said:
Exactly this.
Operation premiership took priority and the purchase was put on the back burner.
The first didn't happen so the second couldn't then happen.
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Bollocks. The council had veto and pre sisu the club were never allowed to purchase unless they paid around £10 million for the Higgs share and £24 million for F and B right and.

Stop lying.
 
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