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Philosoraptor

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #36
New Best for the fourth game in a row.

 

Philosoraptor

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #37

 
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87 n all that

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #38
no_loyalty said:
I agree with you on Sheaf, he does give the ball away a lot, but bring him back in to break up play, as he is ok doing that.
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He’s average but he has his moments. We chased him all summer,like Chaplin the summer before. I wouldn’t pay money for sheaf if that is an option which I doubt it is.
 
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87 n all that

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #39
The 2nd summer before.
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #40
I would put Leo upfront with Walker.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #41
87 n all that said:
He’s average but he has his moments. We chased him all summer,like Chaplin the summer before. I wouldn’t pay money for sheaf if that is an option which I doubt it is.
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£750k would be a snip for Sheaf, he’s one of the only players we have who can play on the half turn and receive in tight areas. The only way that deal isn’t happening is if we get relegated.
 
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skyblueelephant76

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #42
no_loyalty said:
I agree with you on Sheaf, he does give the ball away a lot, but bring him back in to break up play, as he is ok doing that.
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Sheaf has the highest pass completion rate of any of our players at 84.8%. He plays the occasional hospital pass which everyone remembers and it becomes a myth that he gives it away a lot.

Doncaster fans said the same thing yet he was in the top players for passing in League One.
 
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87 n all that

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #43
SlowerThanPlatt said:
£750k would be a snip for Sheaf, he’s one of the only players we have who can play on the half turn and receive in tight areas. The only way that deal isn’t happening is if we get relegated.
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And gives the ball away. I’m not convinced on him tbh. I’m sure he’ll improve but not convinced but with our squad I hope he’ll start with Kelly and hamer (much better players) on sat so we can play 2 upfront.
 
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87 n all that

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #44
skyblueelephant76 said:
Sheaf has the highest pass completion rate of any of our players at 84.8%. He plays the occasional hospital pass which everyone remembers and it becomes a myth that he gives it away a lot.

Doncaster fans said the same thing yet he was in the top players for passing in League One.
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Short passes mean shit
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #45
87 n all that said:
Short passes mean shit
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“It doesn’t count, it was in the Cup”

Just own up to being wrong.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #46
87 n all that said:
Short passes mean shit
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Lol - what passes matter then?
 
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87 n all that

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #47
shmmeee said:
“It doesn’t count, it was in the Cup”

Just own up to being wrong.
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Grendell darling, right?
 
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87 n all that

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #48
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Lol - what passes matter then?
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The ones he doesn’t give away. Have you tucked Grendel in yet? What game has this central midfield wonder influenced? None
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #49
87 n all that said:
The ones he doesn’t give away. Have you tucked Grendel in yet? What game has this central midfield wonder influenced? None
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He’s not in the team to influence or win games. You show little understanding of football and certain roles
 
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johnwillomagic

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #50
I think Rotherham as away may revert to a 4-3-3 formation which they've used most of the season....but if their fans hope they'll play 3-5-2 then so do I and would like us to play 3-5-2 as well - assuming this is the case this is side I hope we play.

Wilson

Osti Fadz Hyam

Dabo Hamer Kelly Sheaf Giles

Baka Walker


Subs: Camp, McCallum, Rose, Shipley, Allen, O'Hare, Jobello, Biamou, Bapaga

I want to see Baka in a two with Walker but think this may be too much to hope for!
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #51
SlowerThanPlatt said:
He’s not in the team to influence or win games. You show little understanding of football and certain roles
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nothings changed in 5 years
 
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87 n all that

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #52
SlowerThanPlatt said:
He’s not in the team to influence or win games. You show little understanding of football and certain roles
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So what does he do then? Give the ball away? 84 p/c from short passes (not his fault, most of them will be taking the ball of a ch and passing it back, getting it back and making a pass to the opponents). Does he set up goals? No. Can he play the Kelly role? No. Ball retention? Not really but I’d play him on sat because we need an extra body in midfield alongside Kelly and hamer. If you think he’s made an impact as the player we chased for a month all summer then you are deluded.
 
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87 n all that

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #53
Grendel said:
nothings changed in 5 years
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In joke I take it? If not we’ve won 2 promotions in 3 seasons. Btw, in new to this site and not a former member under another name. You and you’re cronies drag this site down bad boy
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #54
87 n all that said:
So what does he do then? Give the ball away? 84 p/c from short passes (not his fault, most of them will be taking the ball of a ch and passing it back, getting it back and making a pass to the opponents). Does he set up goals? No. Can he play the Kelly role? No. Ball retention? Not really but I’d play him on sat because we need an extra body in midfield alongside Kelly and hamer. If you think he’s made an impact as the player we chased for a month all summer then you are deluded.
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This is just nonsense. He’s got some of the best passing range in the squad and is always high on interceptions. We missed him on Tuesday. He’s made a couple of bad passes, but so have most of the team. They’re all young and learning the level.
 
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87 n all that

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  • Dec 3, 2020
  • #55
shmmeee said:
This is just nonsense. He’s got some of the best passing range in the squad and is always high on interceptions. We missed him on Tuesday. He’s made a couple of bad passes, but so have most of the team. They’re all young and learning the level.
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It’s not nonsense. He gifted a goal to Bournemouth. He’s not good at defending or attacking, he’s just taking the ball of a defender, playing it back, getting it back, playing it to another defender getting it back, give it to a midfielder, get it back, play it back, give it away. Like you said he’s young but I cannot believe we chased this player for a month. Kelly came in and results have changed. Sheaf has made very little positive impact.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Dec 3, 2020
  • #56
87 n all that said:
So what does he do then? Give the ball away? 84 p/c from short passes (not his fault, most of them will be taking the ball of a ch and passing it back, getting it back and making a pass to the opponents). Does he set up goals? No. Can he play the Kelly role? No. Ball retention? Not really but I’d play him on sat because we need an extra body in midfield alongside Kelly and hamer. If you think he’s made an impact as the player we chased for a month all summer then you are deluded.
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He is the link player between the defence and the attacking midfield players, why would he be setting up players? That’s not his area of the pitch.
 
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skyblueelephant76

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  • Dec 3, 2020
  • #57
87 n all that said:
It’s not nonsense. He gifted a goal to Bournemouth. He’s not good at defending or attacking, he’s just taking the ball of a defender, playing it back, getting it back, playing it to another defender getting it back, give it to a midfielder, get it back, play it back, give it away. Like you said he’s young but I cannot believe we chased this player for a month. Kelly came in and results have changed. Sheaf has made very little positive impact.
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Sheaf also completes more tackles per game than any of our other players.

Unsurprisingly Hamer is 2nd in the league for fouls per game.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Dec 3, 2020
  • #58
87 n all that said:
It’s not nonsense. He gifted a goal to Bournemouth. He’s not good at defending or attacking, he’s just taking the ball of a defender, playing it back, getting it back, playing it to another defender getting it back, give it to a midfielder, get it back, play it back, give it away. Like you said he’s young but I cannot believe we chased this player for a month. Kelly came in and results have changed. Sheaf has made very little positive impact.
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Lol - the best club side of the last 20 years had someone playing the some role. Best tell Busquets to give all his medals back
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Dec 3, 2020
  • #59
87 n all that said:
It’s not nonsense. He gifted a goal to Bournemouth. He’s not good at defending or attacking, he’s just taking the ball of a defender, playing it back, getting it back, playing it to another defender getting it back, give it to a midfielder, get it back, play it back, give it away. Like you said he’s young but I cannot believe we chased this player for a month. Kelly came in and results have changed. Sheaf has made very little positive impact.
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Claiming that Sheaf gifted a goal to Bournemouth is a pure fantasy scenario concocted to support your narrative. If anyone was at fault for the goals in the Bournemouth game it was Hamer.
 
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87 n all that

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  • Dec 3, 2020
  • #60
SeaSeeEffCee said:
Claiming that Sheaf gifted a goal to Bournemouth is a pure fantasy scenario concocted to support your narrative. If anyone was at fault for the goals in the Bournemouth game it was Hamer.
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Goal not goals, and Hamer was on the pitch when he played his atrocious back pass which led to a goal. Hardly a fantasy scenario. How was Hamer at fault for the goals? He got sent off and they scored one goal as a result.
 

kg82

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  • Dec 3, 2020
  • #61
87 n all that said:
So what does he do then? Give the ball away? 84 p/c from short passes (not his fault, most of them will be taking the ball of a ch and passing it back, getting it back and making a pass to the opponents). Does he set up goals? No. Can he play the Kelly role? No. Ball retention? Not really but I’d play him on sat because we need an extra body in midfield alongside Kelly and hamer. If you think he’s made an impact as the player we chased for a month all summer then you are deluded.
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87 n all that said:
It’s not nonsense. He gifted a goal to Bournemouth. He’s not good at defending or attacking, he’s just taking the ball of a defender, playing it back, getting it back, playing it to another defender getting it back, give it to a midfielder, get it back, play it back, give it away. Like you said he’s young but I cannot believe we chased this player for a month. Kelly came in and results have changed. Sheaf has made very little positive impact.
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You just said he isn’t good at ball retention in one post and then described him as doing exactly that in another post. He makes space for himself with ease. He’s been sloppy a couple of times, but no more than anyone else.
 
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SleepyGinger

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  • Dec 3, 2020
  • #62
Surprised at the negative predictions on here, we finished 5 points above pretty much the same Rotherham team last season they are nothing special. No doubt in my mind we are a better side than them.
We struggled to deal with them physically for the first at St. Andrews but they tired and they were lucky to get a point that night.

Wilson
Dabo osti fadz Hyam giles
Hamer kelly sheaf
bakayoko Biamou

Baka and Biamou always caused problems when they have played together (Fleetwood, Peterborough, Birmingham). Walker ohare if we need a goal.

also it felt like Richard wood was in his 30s when he played for us how is he only 35?!
 
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Astute

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  • Dec 3, 2020
  • #63
87 n all that said:
In joke I take it? If not we’ve won 2 promotions in 3 seasons. Btw, in new to this site and not a former member under another name. You and you’re cronies drag this site down bad boy
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New to this site?

New to football it seems. You seem to have the basics but struggle to understand the rest.
 
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hill83

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  • Dec 3, 2020
  • #64
People take their "football knowledge" so seriously. Pure waffle half of the time.
 
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Astute

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  • Dec 3, 2020
  • #65
hill83 said:
People take their "football knowledge" so seriously. Pure waffle half of the time.
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Only half the time?

This doesn't include those with more knowledge than Robins though
 
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Irish Sky Blue

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  • Dec 3, 2020
  • #66
87 n all that said:
Goal not goals, and Hamer was on the pitch when he played his atrocious back pass which led to a goal. Hardly a fantasy scenario. How was Hamer at fault for the goals? He got sent off and they scored one goal as a result.
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Didn't Sheat get brought down for our penalty against Bournemouth?
I think we were 3-1 down when Hamer was sent off.
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Dec 3, 2020
  • #67
87 n all that said:
Goal not goals, and Hamer was on the pitch when he played his atrocious back pass which led to a goal. Hardly a fantasy scenario. How was Hamer at fault for the goals? He got sent off and they scored one goal as a result.
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Did you even watch the game, or in fact even watch the highlights? None of the goals were the result of a Sheaf backpass and Hamer was sent off at 3-1.
 

covcity4life

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  • Dec 3, 2020
  • #68
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Lol - what passes matter then?
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Black
 
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Yorkshire SB

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  • Dec 3, 2020
  • #69
Sheaf should come back in, missed him a lot against Derby in my opinion!
 
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steve cooper

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  • Dec 3, 2020
  • #70
87 n all that said:
It’s not nonsense. He gifted a goal to Bournemouth. He’s not good at defending or attacking, he’s just taking the ball of a defender, playing it back, getting it back, playing it to another defender getting it back, give it to a midfielder, get it back, play it back, give it away. Like you said he’s young but I cannot believe we chased this player for a month. Kelly came in and results have changed. Sheaf has made very little positive impact.
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Looking again at the highlights I can't see anything that suggests Sheaf was to blame for any of their goals, their first came from a left wing cross, the second was Hamer's fault if anyone's, and for their 3rd Sheaf gets nutmegged but it was really a result of Dabo not being tight enough on their goalscorer, (number 4)



 
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