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Match Thread Rotherham United FC - Coventry City Match Thread - Wednesday 25th Oct (3 Viewers)

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  • Start date Oct 22, 2023
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Nick

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #281
Jamesimus said:
But by the same token, by playing lots of matches in very quick succession creates a much bigger load on the body and risk of injury.

E.g. the best way to get match fit is to do what Robins is doing, if that's even his plan. He might not even come on now though
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He could be putting the players who aren't getting many minutes in the reserves to get some minutes, he doesn't.
 
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Jamesimus

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #282
Grendel said:
He played an hour
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Yeah he did. Probably covered a lot of ground in that hour. 45 minutes tonight (or 30 minutes as is more likely) would be a good way to incrementally increase his playing time and minimise chance of injury.
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #283
Jamesimus said:
Yeah he did. Probably covered a lot of ground in that hour. 45 minutes tonight (or 30 minutes as is more likely) would be a good way to incrementally increase his playing time and minimise chance of injury.
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So it just applies to him?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #284
Jamesimus said:
Yeah he did. Probably covered a lot of ground in that hour. 45 minutes tonight (or 30 minutes as is more likely) would be a good way to incrementally increase his playing time and minimise chance of injury.
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Yet he players Godden for 90 minutes every week regardless of his performance?

Think people are thinking way too deep to try and justify it.
 

Matt smith

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #285
We best win tonight
 
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Jamesimus

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #286
Grendel said:
So it just applies to him?
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No it applies to other professional footballers as well.

But also, everyone is different. Not everyone is Jamie Allen for example.
 

Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #287
Nick said:
He could be putting the players who aren't getting many minutes in the reserves to get some minutes, he doesn't.
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And then if first teamers got injured in the reserves people would complain.
 
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Jamesimus

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #288
Nick said:
Yet he players Godden for 90 minutes every week regardless of his performance?

Think people are thinking way too deep to try and justify it.
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People are saying he's been "dropped" when it seems like his minutes are being managed at the moment, possibly for a reason.

It's not particularly deep thinking.
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #289
Jamesimus said:
No it applies to other professional footballers as well.

But also, everyone is different. Not everyone is Jamie Allen for example.
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It’s nonsense - he played the second half against Cardiff and virtually the whole game the following Wednesday against Huddersfield
 

Jamesimus

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #290
Ccfcisparks said:
And then if first teamers got injured in the reserves people would complain.
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No they wouldn't!
 

Matt smith

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #291
@Martin180 what you reckon tonight
 

Mcbean

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #292
Wouldn’t be surprised if O Hare doesn’t come on at all unless we are 3 or 4 up ( unlikely) it’s getting his mind back into it
 
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torchomatic

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #293
Grendel said:
He only played an hour on Saturday why does he need a rest?
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Agree. I don't think he looked particularly tired in the second half on Saturday. Just less effective, like the rest of the team. It was a poor half.
 
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Martin180

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #294
Matt smith said:
@Martin180 what you reckon tonight
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Hopeful of a win tonight . Squad is getting stronger as players return from injury , opposite of Rotherhams current situation
 

Jamesimus

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #295
Grendel said:
It’s nonsense - he played the second half against Cardiff and virtually the whole game the following Wednesday against Huddersfield
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And maybe they thought that was too much? These things including his recovery will be monitored.

It's not nonsense to suggest clubs manage the physical loads on their players, even way below us in the pyramid. Buuuut we can go with dropped if you like, I'm not too fussed
 

Johhny Blue

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #296
Nick said:
He could be putting the players who aren't getting many minutes in the reserves to get some minutes, he doesn't.
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The reserves? You’re showing your age Nick
 
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Nick

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #297
Ccfcisparks said:
And then if first teamers got injured in the reserves people would complain.
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Might need to look into our medical team then as many players drop like flies in training. Pointless if we are too scared to give them minutes.
 

skybluecam

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #298
Deleted member 9744 said:
I'm sorry but that's ridiculous. Clearly our strikers hardly scoring any goals and being unable to hold onto the ball has been the biggest problem. Also having no consistent number 10 is a problem. Eccles has been playing well. Central midfield is not and has not been the problem this season.
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Hardly scoring any goals? Our strikers have 9 in 12. They’re scoring at a higher rate than all of our strikers last season.

I’m not saying Eccles himself is a problem, the fact that he is an absolute nailed on starter is.
 

Boicey

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #299
I can't believe Tats needed resting. Plenty of recovery time for a relatively fit lad. Just not on Robins favourites list.
Good to see Chunky back though.
 

fatso

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #300
SBT said:
Robins said the other night he wanted to rest him but couldn’t - I assume he’ll be benched once two of Sheaf, Allen and Kelly are fully fit.
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He's only played 1 game since the international break!
How much more rest does he need?
 
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procdoc

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #301
Nick said:
Might need to look into our medical team then as many players drop like flies in training. Pointless if we are too scared to give them minutes.
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Every club has injuries, it’s not exclusive just to us. Still annoying though
 

Jamesimus

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #302
Johhny Blue said:
The reserves? You’re showing your age Nick
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I knew what the old geezer meant
 
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long way home

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #303
Grendel said:
He only played an hour on Saturday why does he need a rest?
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I don't think this decision tonight is based on his last performances. Its more likely based on the players data results that the analyst staff watches everyday and reports to Robins.

The game has moved on, shame you haven't!!!!
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #304
torchomatic said:
Agree. I don't think he looked particularly tired in the second half on Saturday. Just less effective, like the rest of the team. It was a poor half.
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Palmer has horrendous fitness issues but oddly was never rested
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #305
long way home said:
I don't think this decision tonight is based on his last performances. Its more likely based on the players data results that the stats guy watches everyday and reports to Robins.

The game has moved on, shame you haven't!!!!
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So the data results show godden plays every game?
 

Greggs

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #306
torchomatic said:
Agree. I don't think he looked particularly tired in the second half on Saturday. Just less effective, like the rest of the team. It was a poor half.
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Because they changed from the formation that was allowing space for him to be effective
 
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Johhny Blue

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #307
Jamesimus said:
I knew what the old geezer meant
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So did I. I just didn’t want to be the first to admit it.
 
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long way home

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #308
Nick said:
You dont get match fit without playing matches
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You dont get match fit when injured either and if data is saying a player is in the red zone you use your squad.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #309
Deleted member 9744 said:
Surprised Sakamoto dropped but he did look very tired by the end.
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He was knackered after an hour and was struggling to show for a pass, it's not necessarily a case of him being dropped

Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk
 
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SBT

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #310
Lot of sports scientists in this thread all of a sudden
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #311
Greggs said:
Rotherham 3/1
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You can get 9/2 on them now Greggsy, hope you’ve topped up
 
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mmttww

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #312
SBT said:
Lot of sports scientists in this thread all of a sudden
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Ashdown

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #313
Great to see Callum on the bench, good luck son . Glad we’ve got Godden in there too, we need goals…. not point proving to try and justify your expenditure in the close season.
 
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Ashdown

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #314
So SKY red button, which Chanel !?
 

Great_Expectations

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #315
Disappointed Sakamoto has been dropped, but him and COH on against tiring legs at LWB and CAM is the only possible silver lining.
 
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