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Match Thread Rotherham United FC - Coventry City Match Thread - Wednesday 25th Oct (6 Viewers)

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,751
Evo1883 said:
we've clearly signed players for the formation we've been playing

Is that even an argument ?
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It is when the play is so incoherent
 

Nick

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,752
Evo1883 said:
we've clearly signed players for the formation we've been playing

Is that even an argument ?
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What, like Sakamoto the winger?

My point was it's a different system and players to the last 200 games so it's not really a comparison.
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,753
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It is when the play is so incoherent
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Nothing incoherent about our play .. not as effective as it could be , sure
 
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The Philosopher

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,754
Evo1883 said:
we've clearly signed players for the formation we've been playing

Is that even an argument ?
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True, we signed Simms / Wright to replace Gyok, probably Ayari to stand in for Cal but didn’t have time / luck / foresight to replace Gus with a roaming playmaker. Thing is, who we have signed in those positions has flopped so far.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,755
Nick said:
What, like Sakamoto the winger?

My point was it's a different system and players to the last 200 games so it's not really a comparison.
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Sakamoto the winger that played wing back at his previous club and can play a 10.

That one
 
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The Philosopher

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,756
Nick said:
What, like Sakamoto the winger?

My point was it's a different system and players to the last 200 games so it's not really a comparison.
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Good point. We might as well have brought Jodi Jones back. Neither really fit our style.
 

Nick

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,757
Evo1883 said:
My bad 21 minutes left including injury time of which there is a few minutes every single match ..

A change of formation isn't always going to get a result.. as tonight showed

The manager knows what he's doing nick , he almost took us to the Premier league mate being wank at subs and game management
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Of course it won't always work but my point is when do we ever be the ones that do it and it works? We sit and watch the same thing over and over again not working.

Against Bristol it was the last minute when something was attempted, why?

Tonight, we waited a while before trying something. Yeah we tried to change things about and it didn't work.
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,758
The Philosopher said:
True, we signed Simms / Wright to replace Gyok, probably Ayari to stand in for Cal but didn’t have time / luck / foresight to replace Gus with a roaming playmaker. Thing is, who we have signed in those positions has flopped so far.
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Sure , not as great as we'd have hoped , still plenty of time to develop these players .. there's no doubt there is a massive overreaction on here , as usual
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,759
The problem isn’t the formation, it’s the dogshit slow ‘possession’ football we’re trying to play. Van Ewijk was supposedly to be an exciting wing back who loves to bomb on and we’ve got him cutting back inside and playing it to Eccles every time he gets it. Simms and Wright clearly aren’t capable of playing in a slow build-up system. It’s baffling as to why we’ve signed these players for big money and aren’t playing to their strengths.
 
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Nick

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  • Oct 26, 2023
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Evo1883 said:
Sakamoto the winger that played wing back at his previous club and can play a 10.

That one
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Yeah, this one



The one he dropped tonight
 
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The Philosopher

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,761
Evo1883 said:
Sure , not as great as we'd have hoped , still plenty of time to develop these players .. there's no doubt there is a massive overreaction on here , as usual
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We are Cov fans. The fact we are posting on here at midnight shows we are venting our frustration and at times overreacting. I guess that’s the human condition.
 

Nick

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,762
SeaSeeEffCee said:
The problem isn’t the formation, it’s the dogshit slow ‘possession’ football we’re trying to play. Van Ewijk was supposedly to be an exciting wing back who loves to bomb on and we’ve got him cutting back inside and playing it to Eccles every time he gets it. Simms and Wright clearly aren’t capable of playing in a slow build-up system. It’s baffling as to why we’ve signed these players for big money and aren’t playing to their strengths.
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Wright always looks good when it's played in the channels.
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,763
Nick said:
Yeah, this one

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The one he dropped tonight
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OK great , he played wing back several times in belgium btw , will probably be left wing or right wing on there in a 343

Fact is when he was signed Robins said he was a versatile player that can play in several positions.. he can play wing back , attacking midfield , right wing , left wing etc

That doesn't indicate a system change when he can play in atleast 2 positions in our current system

Me personally, not sure why we've signed him , but he can play in a 5 atb or 3 atb system
 

The Philosopher

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,764
SeaSeeEffCee said:
The problem isn’t the formation, it’s the dogshit slow ‘possession’ football we’re trying to play. Van Ewijk was supposedly to be an exciting wing back who loves to bomb on and we’ve got him cutting back inside and playing it to Eccles every time he gets it. Simms and Wright clearly aren’t capable of playing in a slow build-up system. It’s baffling as to why we’ve signed these players for big money and aren’t playing to their strengths.
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I agree. The noticeable difference is that Simms and Wright cannot hold the ball up and lay off and turn and run. We tried developing Bakayoko and blew a lot of budget on him (£250k?) which at the time was chunky money to us. £12m is madness.
 

MalcSB

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,765
skyblu3sk said:
Eccles needs resting as does Ayari. Start wright over Godden and let's go again.
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How many minutes has Ayari played to need a rest. He needs dropping from the squad and sent back to the sea side.
 
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PVA

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,766
Grendel said:
He is useless defensively and predictable when attacking - a pointless signing
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You had your mind made up the moment he signed.

He was decent in the first half and poor in the second. Certainly not alone in that respect.

He's better than Bidwell and the manager agrees.

Your track record on wing backs recently is less than impressive. How's Todd Kane getting on?
 
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skybluepm2

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,767
Just got back, dejected after such an abject performance. Rotherham wanted it more than we did and deserved their win, as much as it pains me to say.

Struggling to comprehend how we are intending to play right now, something is seriously lacking in the middle of the park. MVE had his poorest game for us tonight, he and Da Silva were isolated and weren’t really afforded the space by their opposite numbers.

A lot of side to side passing with little or no off the ball runners from our forwards. Sheaf played well once again, Wilson with a few fantastic saves, Fadz and Simms were ok, but that’s it. Seeing COH back was the highlight of the night, he and Sakamoto brought us a bit of added impetus but too little too late. 16 corners, not one threatening.

2 crappy unavoidable set piece goals conceded in the past 2 games which have cost us, whilst being profligate at the other end.

Going forward, I’d like to see us play 2 AM’s (COH and one other of Allen, Palmer, Saka), but behind who? Do any of the 3 have the capability to play as a lone striker? Right now I’m not so sure.

Officiating pathetic as always, but not the reason we lost. Back to the drawing board
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,768
What was the fk against Thomas given for?
 

BlueSkiesForever

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,769
fernandopartridge said:
We went 4 at the back and conceded a pathetic second goal you
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Firstly, I simply suggested a formation change, I’m thinking more the box atm, not necessarily 4 at the back yet.

Secondly, we’ve spent almost 30% of the season playing this same formation and we’re sitting in 20th, right alongside some of the shittest teams in the championship. You can’t tell me this is how we should continue, surely?

Thirdly, we went to a 4 at the back for only a portion of the game, I think it’s absolutely ludicrous to write something off after only seeing it implemented for such a small period of time. “Well boys we tried that for 23 minutes and it didn’t work so I’m shelving that one, let’s go back to the same old shit”.

I realise I obsess about formation a lot but what is people’s obsession with not moving on from the same old shit every week? I could understand if that was Leeds or Southampton or Ipswich we just played and our weird 5-2-1-2 formation didn’t work out but it wasn’t, it was fucking dog shite Rotherham, we can’t be losing to Rotherham in that manner and then suggesting we shouldn’t be trying to change it, it’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard.

Also I don’t understand why you try and make everything personal, I asked a general question to anyone in the forum and you stroll in there calling me a clown. I’m not having a go at you or anyone, I’ve never had a go, I even said the other day to you I hope you don’t see our debates as personal and I don’t enjoy how everything little comment on here becomes a stab at someone. It just gets a bit grating having to defend my opinion all the time, if you don’t like it then fine but I’d appreciate it if you don’t call me a clown and call my ideas “a load of shite”.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,770
SkyblueTexan said:
O’Hare cannot reverse the slide on his own. This team is so pathetic. I’m sick watching this shit show week in and week out.
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He nearly did tonight.

Looked a level above, made some great runs and worked hard.

You know he's back when he missed a good chance or two as well!
 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,771
Nick said:
What sort of bullshit is that?
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We’ve lost more quality than we’ve brought in. By definition.
 
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djr8369

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,772
Johnnythespider said:
I think we've become so used to Gyokeres or Hamer dragging us through games we've forgotten that there's no one else to do it, the players all look like they are waiting for someone else to do something special and there's no one, on the bright side O'Hare and Sakamoto looked lively when they came on and I'd play them at the top of the box with one upfront.
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I don’t think we were anywhere near as bad as most are making it out but we really lack leaders who can grab the game by the scruff of the neck or anyone with a really high work rate.
 
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djr8369

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,773
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Or it’s not in the ball retention game plan.
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I think it’s this. We’re playing really slow careful stuff. That’s surely tactical. Tbf we’ve had good possession stats and although it doesn’t feel like it creating a fair few chances, just not converting them currently.
 
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djr8369

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,774
Warwickhunt said:
Simms game lifted when Godden went off! Is Godden taking the space Simms needs to play or what? or don't they like playing with each other?
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They move to the same space a lot I think, getting in each others way. Wright makes the Gyok run wide quite a lot so it’s less of an issue as Simms tends to sit central.
 
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Otis

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,775
Brighton Sky Blue said:
How much longer would you persist with our own system provided results remain poor?
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We're creating very good chances though. Just not taking them. That's the key
 
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Otis

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,776
Evo1883 said:
Sure , not as great as we'd have hoped , still plenty of time to develop these players .. there's no doubt there is a massive overreaction on here , as usual
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Yup. Glad that hasn't happened on the Israel-Palestine thread.
 
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djr8369

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,777
Matt smith said:
I know? Moan about it show some emotion
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Tbf Thomas did that just after and got booked for it. Ref was poor in those few minutes. Should never have given them the throw in Thomas was raving about.
 

bigfatronssba

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,778
Problem is it’s all down to the players from here on in. I think after that performance the atmosphere will be dead on Monday, unless we see a massive change in how we play.
I’m not sure these players have the mental strength to do it with a muted crowd
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,779
Otis said:
We're creating very good chances though. Just not taking them. That's the key
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I don’t recall seeing any very good chances. Plenty for them though.
 
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djr8369

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,780
stevefloyd said:
I said lowly teams Bristol looked rubbish and we lost Rotherham looked rubbish we also lost this time by 2 goals... nothing to be positive about atm unless things start to look up
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Sorry but Rotherham were very good second half.
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,781
Pusb1 said:
On the way back from the game just now.

All players absolute trash. Special hopeless shoutouts for Da Silva (Bidwell must be scratching his head), Ayari, Simms and Eccles

one thing i found truely bizarre is the interaction between the players during the match. Only the ‘old guard’ aka Sheaf, Eccles and Fadz were talking to each other and trying to rally something during the game.
Every single new player would walk head hung low.
I really do thing there’s a huge divide in the team. I really do think last seasons swuad are genuinely baffled at the “quality” (or lack of) that we have brought in…
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A few weeks back i posted that those who had been here a while we're trying to integrate the new players, help them settle, integrate and its not been reciprocated

Yes those players do need to look at their own performances aswell, but those who have been here a while and know what it means to be a Coventry City player, and have a bond with the fans are just bereft of what to do squad wise at the moment from what i understand

As mentioned before, even from the early training sessions the 'senior pros' knew that those we had brought in (in the main) are not good enough, too passive, too quiet, bollockless basically, but have done all they can to welcome them, get them settled, help them on the training pitch and by all accounts its just not working


I miss the days when we were the underdog, us against the world, fans and players with a big fuckoff to everyone else. We're nowhere near that
 
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Ashdown

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,782
Matt smith said:
To be fair I think the opposite

the players that we have from last year and before are the ones who will always run through brick walls for this club, they’ve proven it and earned that respect over time
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You missed my point, that’s exactly what I meant…. The old guard seem to be still trying whilst the new signings are struggling.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,783
Saddlebrains said:
A few weeks back i posted that those who had been here a while we're trying to integrate the new players, help them settle, integrate and its not been reciprocated

Yes those players do need to look at their own performances aswell, but those who have been here a while and know what it means to be a Coventry City player, and have a bond with the fans are just bereft of what to do squad wise at the moment from what i understand

As mentioned before, even from the early training sessions the 'senior pros' knew that those we had brought in (in the main) are not good enough, too passive, too quiet, bollockless basically, but have done all they can to welcome them, get them settled, help them on the training pitch and by all accounts its just not working


I miss the days when we were the underdog, us against the world, fans and players with a big fuckoff to everyone else. We're nowhere near that
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I didn’t expect to be in a playoff chase again this season, but I also didn’t expect to be struggling near the bottom and getting played off the park by fecking Rotherham either. It is essentially what happened to Huddersfield, the star players got ripped out of the side and weren’t replaced effectively. Even then they had also lost their manager and hadn’t brought in anything like the same transfer revenue.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,784
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I didn’t expect to be in a playoff chase again this season, but I also didn’t expect to be struggling near the bottom and getting played off the park by fecking Rotherham either. It is essentially what happened to Huddersfield, the star players got ripped out of the side and weren’t replaced effectively. Even then they had also lost their manager and hadn’t brought in anything like the same transfer revenue.
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We weren't played off the park, were we?

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 26, 2023
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fernandopartridge said:
We weren't played off the park, were we?

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Most of that second half I’d say so, yes.
 
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