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  • Start date Jun 16, 2020
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larry_david

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  • Jun 16, 2020
  • #141
Pask. Broke his ankle in pre season, came back and bossed a few under 23s, scored from wing back on his debut but traditionally a cb. @better days any further thought on Pask?
 

better days

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  • Jun 16, 2020
  • #142
larry_david said:
Pask. Broke his ankle in pre season, came back and bossed a few under 23s, scored from wing back on his debut but traditionally a cb. @better days any further thought on Pask?
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If the lad gets a run of games he will show his quality
He played much of his youth football as a forward so he's looking to get goals too
When he came the club said he could play RB or as a central defender but I won't be surprised if we try him as a holding midfielder at some point
 

junglej13

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  • Jun 16, 2020
  • #143
@better days you know much from the training ground about the thoughts on the development of Williams and Drysdale? The coaches have had a year or two to work with them now but the promotion may go against their chances of breaking through in the short term possibly. Would like to see both loaned out to League 1 or 2 next year.
 

rob9872

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  • Jun 16, 2020
  • #144
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Don't forget Rose may well still be on L1 wages or a slight increase. Anyone we bring in will be more likely to want Championship level wages which could take up a big chunk out of the fee and leave us with nothing to reinvest in terms of fees.
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His contract doubled on promotion. Standard clause.
 

cc84cov

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  • Jun 16, 2020
  • #145
I look at Pask he just looks like he’s built to play CDM to me can really seeing him become a proper holding midfielder moving forward he’s quick can pass & has an eye for a goal he reads the game well also,When I’ve seen him in under 23’s football he looks like a dad playing against under 10’s it’s effortless for him brilliant prospect I’m sure will go on to do very well for us.
 
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rob9872

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  • Jun 16, 2020
  • #146
kg82 said:
Because he’s older?! He’s 24! Sure, he’s older than McCallum, but it’s not exactly how price deflation works in football.
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I think his points valid but not expressed well. At the difference in age there is so much more on terms of potential in Sam. Has all the attributes to turn into a Gareth Bale type who also stsrted as LB then left wing back.
 

better days

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  • Jun 16, 2020
  • #147
junglej13 said:
@better days you know much from the training ground about the thoughts on the development of Williams and Drysdale? The coaches have had a year or two to work with them now but the promotion may go against their chances of breaking through in the short term possibly. Would like to see both loaned out to League 1 or 2 next year.
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Williams looked like he could be a player but seemed to go off the boil a bit and then picked up a nasty facial injury which kept him out for quite a period
Drysdale also picked up an injury that sidelined him for some months I believe
I reckon we might see them in pre season and EFL Trophy games to see how they've progressed
 
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rob9872

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  • Jun 16, 2020
  • #148
cc84cov said:
I look at Pask he just looks like he’s built to play CDM to me can really seeing him become a proper holding midfielder moving forward he’s quick can pass & has an eye for a goal he reads the game well also,When I’ve seen him in under 23’s football he looks like a dad playing against under 10’s it’s effortless for him brilliant prospect I’m sure will go on to do very well for us.
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I hope you're right. Looked good pre season snd U23 but ideally could have done with more L1 minutes before now stepping up again. May need a loan back to L1 until Christmas perhaps to get him sharp and experienced.
 

robbiekeane

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  • Jun 16, 2020
  • #149
£5m and I’ll give him a lift
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 16, 2020
  • #150
It’s all rubbish another site says White will return


Ben White hopes grow for Leeds as Liverpool transfer is discussed
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 16, 2020
  • #151
better days said:
Williams looked like he could be a player but seemed to go off the boil a bit and then picked up a nasty facial injury which kept him out for quite a period
Drysdale also picked up an injury that sidelined him for some months I believe
I reckon we might see them in pre season and EFL Trophy games to see how they've progressed
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We're not in the EFL trophy any more

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Liquid Gold

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  • Jun 16, 2020
  • #152
fernandopartridge said:
We're not in the EFL trophy any more

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We can enter our U23s though...
 

shepardo01

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  • Jun 16, 2020
  • #153
Liquid Gold said:
We can enter our U23s though...
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Think you have to have a Cat 1 academy. Ours is Cat 2......
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jun 16, 2020
  • #154
Liquid Gold said:
We can enter our U23s though...
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That’s Premier League only isn’t it?
 
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Magwitch

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  • Jun 16, 2020
  • #155
If they are talking about an end of September start I have my doubts the EFL cup will happen
 

robbiekeane

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  • Jun 16, 2020
  • #156
rob9872 said:
His contract doubled on promotion. Standard clause.
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Thought we had established that this was unlikely to be the case...Think better days said very unlikely to have automatic wage increases in their contracts
 

better days

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  • Jun 16, 2020
  • #157
fernandopartridge said:
We're not in the EFL trophy any more

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My god you're right
Back to the drawing board.....
 
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rob9872

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  • Jun 16, 2020
  • #158
robbiekeane said:
Thought we had established that this was unlikely to be the case...Think better days said very unlikely to have automatic wage increases in their contracts
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And therefore its gospel?
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Jun 16, 2020
  • #159
I did see a few reports from football stats people that said we got a real steal with Rose.
 
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robbiekeane

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  • Jun 16, 2020
  • #160
rob9872 said:
And therefore its gospel?
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Calm down sausage.

Betterdays has shown on numerous occasions to have reliable information and more of a clue on what’s happening inside the club than the average user on here (much more than myself).

So I’d be more inclined to believe that it’s unlikely people have automatic clauses than you blurting out that all wages will double automatically on promotion...
 

rob9872

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  • Jun 16, 2020
  • #161
robbiekeane said:
Calm down sausage.

Betterdays has shown on numerous occasions to have reliable information and more of a clue on what’s happening inside the club than the average user on here (much more than myself).

So I’d be more inclined to believe that it’s unlikely people have automatic clauses than you blurting out that all wages will double automatically on promotion...
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Ok flower, if you say so.

How about if I 1) tell you that I 100% know it to be true, 2) tell you that the Leeds angle is a non story 3) advise that £2m is the max we'd see up front and 4) have a £50 bet with you or anyone else who wants to that Michael is still a City player in September.

Now get over yourself. You can have your opinion, but don't tell me mine is wrong.
 
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Garryb80

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  • Jun 16, 2020
  • #162
rob9872 said:
Ok flower, if you say so.

How about if I 1) tell you that I 100% know it to be true, 2) tell you that the Leeds angle is a non story 3) advise that £2m is the max we'd see up front and 4) have a £50 bet with you or anyone else who wants to that Michael is still a City player in September.

Now get over yourself. You can have your opinion, but don't tell me mine is wrong.
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Prove yours is 100% correct then before ranting at every one who doesn't believe you
 
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rob9872

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  • Jun 16, 2020
  • #163
Garryb80 said:
Prove yours is 100% correct then before ranting at every one who doesn't believe you
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I don't think I need to since there's no evidence the other way to dispute what's taken as fact and I've only ranted as a response to telling me I didn't know which is not only disrespectful but inaccurate. I've also offered to put money where my mouth is.
 

Evo1883

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  • Jun 16, 2020
  • #164
If maguire is worth 80 Rose is worth 81 mill, settle for nothing less
 

robbiekeane

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  • Jun 17, 2020
  • #165
rob9872 said:
Ok flower, if you say so.

How about if I 1) tell you that I 100% know it to be true, 2) tell you that the Leeds angle is a non story 3) advise that £2m is the max we'd see up front and 4) have a £50 bet with you or anyone else who wants to that Michael is still a City player in September.

Now get over yourself. You can have your opinion, but don't tell me mine is wrong.
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Jesus christ who's rattled your cage?

1) Great
2 3 and 4 are not really relevant to me as I haven't expressed an opinion on any of them? Are you confused? Also I started my post that replied to yours originally with "I thought"?

So are you still sticking to your statement that wages doubling is a "standard clause"?
 
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Jcap

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  • Jun 17, 2020
  • #166
better days said:
I reckon we might see them in pre season and EFL Trophy games to see how they've progressed
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EFL Trophy games? Are we putting an U23s team in?
 

better days

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  • Jun 17, 2020
  • #167
Jcap said:
EFL Trophy games? Are we putting an U23s team in?
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Sorry
I already acknowledged my cock up
 
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Garryb80

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  • Jun 17, 2020
  • #168
rob9872 said:
I don't think I need to since there's no evidence the other way to dispute what's taken as fact and I've only ranted as a response to telling me I didn't know which is not only disrespectful but inaccurate. I've also offered to put money where my mouth is.
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Well to argue something is 100% true then I suggest proof is needed. We don't know the response to you was inaccurate if you can't prove your own opinion is true.
 
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Magwitch

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  • Jun 17, 2020
  • #169
Rose to Leeds ? They need to win promotion first and they have a record of imploding if they fail that there will be a number of Leeds players on the move.
 

rob9872

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  • Jun 17, 2020
  • #170
robbiekeane said:
Jesus christ who's rattled your cage?

1) Great
2 3 and 4 are not really relevant to me as I haven't expressed an opinion on any of them? Are you confused? Also I started my post that replied to yours originally with "I thought"?

So are you still sticking to your statement that wages doubling is a "standard clause"?
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Yes.
I can't say for all players as I've not seen the contracts or spoken with their agents, but for the majority and certainly almost all first team players it is. Unfortunately that means some of them who were on good L1 wages and may be less than average Championship players at best, will consume a big part of our limited budget.
 

rob9872

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  • Jun 17, 2020
  • #171
Garryb80 said:
Well to argue something is 100% true then I suggest proof is needed. We don't know the response to you was inaccurate if you can't prove your own opinion is true.
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He said we'd established it wasn't true based on an alternative posting that offers no evidence either but prepared to discount my statement. The only way to demonstrate as fact would be to share personal details on an open forum and I wouldn't do that even if I had access to them.
 

better days

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 17, 2020
  • #172
robbiekeane said:
Jesus christ who's rattled your cage?

1) Great
2 3 and 4 are not really relevant to me as I haven't expressed an opinion on any of them? Are you confused? Also I started my post that replied to yours originally with "I thought"?

So are you still sticking to your statement that wages doubling is a "standard clause"?
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It's not worth rowing about but there is often a standard clause at clubs about performance bonuses being doubled if promotion is achieved
Although there might be the odd player who has a clause of their basic salary being doubled it's not standard
Normally the contract will say it will be renegotiated upon promotion
Or relegation
 
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cc84cov

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  • Jun 17, 2020
  • #173
Magwitch said:
Rose to Leeds ? They need to win promotion first and they have a record of imploding if they fail that there will be a number of Leeds players on the move.
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Why ? Even in the championship £3m is nothing to Leeds they can also blow us out of the water with wages not to mention playing infront of a massive crowd most weeks at Ellland road also he’s closer to home up there,if it’s true they want him and the money is correct he’s gone
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 17, 2020
  • #174
cc84cov said:
Why ? Even in the championship £3m is nothing to Leeds they can also blow us out of the water with wages not to mention playing infront of a massive crowd most weeks at Ellland road also he’s closer to home up there,if it’s true they want him and the money is correct he’s gone
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Yep completely agree which is why we need our club to continue to work brilliantly like with Wilson Maddison bayliss Stevenson and McCallum. An over the top few could make a massive massive difference to our club and team. Love Rose he’s possibly my favourite player this season, his passing is often sublime.
 

better days

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  • Jun 17, 2020
  • #175
cc84cov said:
Why ? Even in the championship £3m is nothing to Leeds they can also blow us out of the water with wages not to mention playing infront of a massive crowd most weeks at Ellland road also he’s closer to home up there,if it’s true they want him and the money is correct he’s gone
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Leeds also often have reps looking at all our teams
I suppose because of our recent record with young players
 
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