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Transfer Rumour Rocky Bushiri (2 Viewers)

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  • Start date Jul 24, 2021
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 25, 2021
  • #71
Ccfcisparks said:
Go on then why isn’t it
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Because it's based on the unproven assumptions that Ostigard wants to come here and Brighton want him too as well
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 25, 2021
  • #72
fernandopartridge said:
Because it's based on the unproven assumptions that Ostigard wants to come here and Brighton want him too as well
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Well if Robins wanted him back surely he would have at least enquired?
 
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edgy

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  • Jul 26, 2021
  • #73
Just my take on Rocky from what I saw on Saturday.

Barring one error, he was up there with our better performers on Saturday. He's a unit, quick and commanding. Enjoyed how he immediately he was vocal in a new team, giving out instruction/praise/bollocking when needed. Passed the ball well, always wanted the ball too.

If that's him half fit, I'd happily take a punt on him. I think Robins played him down significantly.
 
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djr8369

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  • Jul 26, 2021
  • #74
Ccfcisparks said:
Well if Robins wanted him back surely he would have at least enquired?
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I’m sure MR was quoted in the tele saying Ostigard knows we want him if it’s a possibility to let the club know. He then said Ostigard seems to be exploring other options.
 

better days

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  • Jul 26, 2021
  • #75
djr8369 said:
I’m sure MR was quoted in the tele saying Ostigard knows we want him if it’s a possibility to let the club know. He then said Ostigard seems to be exploring other options.
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The way it normally works is that we would approach his agent informally to see if he was interested in coming back
If the agent gave the green light we would them officially approach Brighton to negotiate
 
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slowpoke

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  • Jul 26, 2021
  • #76
edgy said:
Just my take on Rocky from what I saw on Saturday.

Barring one error, he was up there with our better performers on Saturday. He's a unit, quick and commanding. Enjoyed how he immediately he was vocal in a new team, giving out instruction/praise/bollocking when needed. Passed the ball well, always wanted the ball too.

If that's him half fit, I'd happily take a punt on him. I think Robins played him down significantly.
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I thought that of Rocky too the way he barked orders about from the beginning suggests to me he could have been around the squad a while, if he joins he will need a bit of time to get up to speed but there looks to be a prospect there and then if Ostigard happens we could have a mean and lean defence then add the experienced Martin Cranie as back up we’d be sorted imo.
 

Tea & Busquets

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  • Jul 26, 2021
  • #77
slowpoke said:
I thought that of Rocky too the way he barked orders about from the beginning suggests to me he could have been around the squad a while, if he joins he will need a bit of time to get up to speed but there looks to be a prospect there and then if Ostigard happens we could have a mean and lean defence then add the experienced Martin Cranie as back up we’d be sorted imo.
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3 centre halfs? i reckon two is enough given MR only wants 4 signings
 

better days

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  • Jul 26, 2021
  • #78
slowpoke said:
I thought that of Rocky too the way he barked orders about from the beginning suggests to me he could have been around the squad a while, if he joins he will need a bit of time to get up to speed but there looks to be a prospect there and then if Ostigard happens we could have a mean and lean defence then add the experienced Martin Cranie as back up we’d be sorted imo.
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He'd been training with us in the week before the game
 

slowpoke

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  • Jul 26, 2021
  • #79
If Cranie happens it will be as experience cover for several positions and Ostigard looks 50/50 we have the three main men Rose, McFadz and Hyam, not writing him off but McFadz looked well off the pace Saturday, you never know one might be off loaded if he gets others in.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jul 26, 2021
  • #80
slowpoke said:
If Cranie happens it will be as experience cover for several positions and Ostigard looks 50/50 we have the three main men Rose, McFadz and Hyam, not writing him off but McFadz looked well off the pace Saturday, you never know one might be off loaded if he gets others in.
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50/50? Don’t go into bookmaking you’d be bankrupt within a month
 
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procdoc

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  • Jul 26, 2021
  • #81
SlowerThanPlatt said:
50/50? Don’t go into bookmaking you’d be bankrupt within a month
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More chance finding rocking horse shit than Osti coming back here
 

CDK

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  • Jul 26, 2021
  • #82
procdoc said:
More chance finding rocking horse shit than Osti coming back here
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That's my take on osti as well bin and gone won't be back.
 

Tea & Busquets

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  • Jul 26, 2021
  • #83
Osti is long gone at this point. Imo we should be focusing on Bushiri, getting in a young defender like Panzo (or Panzo), and an older lad (Tom Lees?). Cranie can bugger off.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jul 26, 2021
  • #84
edgy said:
Just my take on Rocky from what I saw on Saturday.

Barring one error, he was up there with our better performers on Saturday. He's a unit, quick and commanding. Enjoyed how he immediately he was vocal in a new team, giving out instruction/praise/bollocking when needed. Passed the ball well, always wanted the ball too.

If that's him half fit, I'd happily take a punt on him. I think Robins played him down significantly.
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I reckon he was just shouting to the bench to make sure they were watching him


 

slowpoke

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  • Jul 26, 2021
  • #85
Tea & Busquets said:
Osti is long gone at this point. Imo we should be focusing on Bushiri, getting in a young defender like Panzo (or Panzo), and an older lad (Tom Lees?). Cranie can bugger off.
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Why ?
 

Frostie

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  • Jul 26, 2021
  • #86
Tea & Busquets said:
Osti is long gone at this point. Imo we should be focusing on Bushiri, getting in a young defender like Panzo (or Panzo), and an older lad (Tom Lees?). Cranie can bugger off.
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Would much rather have Cranie than Lees.
 
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Tea & Busquets

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  • Jul 26, 2021
  • #87
slowpoke said:
Why ?
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This is only in regards to our CB situation, no other position. That being said, Panzo would be our Osti replacement and versatile back who can play at LB if need be. Lees would be our championship veteran who can play LCB. Bushiri for rotation and could develop as a potential starter in the coming year. Cranie is an unambitious signing, another Fadz who is decent and reliable but is going down in quality fast. We have other cover from the u23s anyway such as Burroughs. Thoughts?
 

Tea & Busquets

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  • Jul 26, 2021
  • #88
Frostie said:
Would much rather have Cranie than Lees.
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Lees would definitely put us in a worse financial position but I believe if we still have money left over we should spend that on him and not Cranie.
 

Tea & Busquets

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  • Jul 26, 2021
  • #89
Frostie said:
Would much rather have Cranie than Lees.
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fuckin hell mate forget what i said, i’d happily take cranie. not sure how true this is could be rubbish but lees is on 22k as opposed to cranie’s 5 or so k.
 

Frostie

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  • Jul 26, 2021
  • #90
Tea & Busquets said:
fuckin hell mate forget what i said, i’d happily take cranie. not sure how true this is could be rubbish but lees is on 22k as opposed to cranie’s 5 or so k.
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Aye, obviously he won't get anywhere near that again but even at half that he'd likely be our highest paid player. He's been poor in each of the last 3 seasons & is really uncomfortable in possession - just wouldn't fit our style at all.
 
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Tea & Busquets

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  • Jul 26, 2021
  • #91
Frostie said:
Aye, obviously he won't get anywhere near that again but even at half that he'd likely be our highest paid player. He's been poor in each of the last 3 seasons & is really uncomfortable in possession - just wouldn't fit our style at all.
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agreed, i think we do need a no nonsense central defender who can tackle and head, that is lees, but at the same time he looks quite nervous with the ball whenever i’ve seen him.
 

COV

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  • Jul 26, 2021
  • #92
Someone’s changed his Wikipedia page saying he plays for us now

I reckon it was @Boosh
 

Irish Sky Blue

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  • Jul 27, 2021
  • #93
slowpoke said:
If Cranie happens it will be as experience cover for several positions and Ostigard looks 50/50 we have the three main men Rose, McFadz and Hyam, not writing him off but McFadz looked well off the pace Saturday, you never know one might be off loaded if he gets others in.
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All a matter of opinion but I thought McFadz played well when he came on.
 

fatso

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  • Jul 27, 2021
  • #94
Tea & Busquets said:
fuckin hell mate forget what i said, i’d happily take cranie. not sure how true this is could be rubbish but lees is on 22k as opposed to cranie’s 5 or so k.
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Is or was ?
He may of been on £22k but if hes now out of contract he's on the dole, and the dole doesnt pay anything like £22k
What players where earning in the past is totally irrelevant. He will play for whatever he can get, or he wont play, simples.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 27, 2021
  • #95
fatso said:
Is or was ?
He may of been on £22k but if hes now out of contract he's on the dole, and the dole doesnt pay anything like £22k
What players where earning in the past is totally irrelevant. He will play for whatever he can get, or he wont play, simples.
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That’s right we can get him for a couple of K and a pack of haribos
 
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COV

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  • Jul 27, 2021
  • #96
fatso said:
Is or was ?
He may of been on £22k but if hes now out of contract he's on the dole, and the dole doesnt pay anything like £22k
What players where earning in the past is totally irrelevant. He will play for whatever he can get, or he wont play, simples.
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I'm reasonably sure that the vast majority of football players don't need to find work immediately when they don't have a club, they can afford to wait for an offer that suits them. Its not irrelevant what he earned in the past, if the guy is absolutely minted then he doesn't need to jump at the first offer he gets.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 27, 2021
  • #97
COV said:
I'm reasonably sure that the vast majority of football players don't need to find work immediately when they don't have a club, they can afford to wait for an offer that suits them. Its not irrelevant what he earned in the past, if the guy is absolutely minted then he doesn't need to jump at the first offer he gets.
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The guy has earnt near £7m over his contract at Sheff W, and people think hes that desperate for cash he would join on a 5th of that. I'm sure hes enjoying his break.
 

fatso

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  • Jul 27, 2021
  • #98
COV said:
I'm reasonably sure that the vast majority of football players don't need to find work immediately when they don't have a club, they can afford to wait for an offer that suits them. Its not irrelevant what he earned in the past, if the guy is absolutely minted then he doesn't need to jump at the first offer he gets.
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But the point is, at their age, they need to be playing, if they arnt, then come january, their careers are over. I'm sure they dont need the cash, but they do need the games.

With less than 2 weeks to go, it doesnt appear that there's a queue of clubs banging at their door offering big money contracts.
So its play for what your offered, or retire.
Many of these old heads want some kind of player coach roll for a few months, to give them the experience on their cv, as they look to stay in the game after retirement.
 

COV

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  • Jul 27, 2021
  • #99
fatso said:
But the point is, at their age, they need to be playing, if they arnt, then come january, their careers are over. I'm sure they dont need the cash, but they do need the games.

With less than 2 weeks to go, it doesnt appear that there's a queue of clubs banging at their door offering big money contracts.
So its play for what your offered, or retire.
Many of these old heads want some kind of player coach roll for a few months, to give them the experience on their cv, as they look to stay in the game after retirement.
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Not true, look at how desperate we are- there is an argument to say that they should sit back a bit and wait for the offers (which will come), that way they hold all the cards in negotiating instead of just jumping in.

If a team gets hammered in the first few games and the window is still open, a player is going to be able to demand more than if they negotiate now- pressure will have well & truly kicked in- we've done it ourselves with extravagant late deals for inflated prices & wages fuelled by desperation to 'just sign someone'- Kevin Kyle & Leon McKenzie were examples
 

fatso

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  • Jul 27, 2021
  • #100
COV said:
Not true, look at how desperate we are- there is an argument to say that they should sit back a bit and wait for the offers (which will come), that way they hold all the cards in negotiating instead of just jumping in.

If a team gets hammered in the first few games and the window is still open, a player is going to be able to demand more than if they negotiate now- pressure will have well & truly kicked in- we've done it ourselves with extravagant late deals for inflated prices & wages fuelled by desperation to 'sign someone'.
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But who wants a mid 30's has been who's not had a pre season? If they leave it too long, then young premier league loans will be the way to go, along with fringe players who havnt made the cut.
 

slowpoke

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  • Jul 27, 2021
  • #101
fatso said:
But who wants a mid 30's has been who's not had a pre season? If they leave it too long, then young premier league loans will be the way to go, along with fringe players who havnt made the cut.
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Who is that ?
 

Frostie

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  • Jul 27, 2021
  • #102
A lot of the out of contract Wednesday players are still owed money by the club, they won't move until that's sorted out which I assume will be at the end of the month. Not that I would want any of them anyway.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Jul 27, 2021
  • #103
I was impressed by Bushiri on Saturday. Looked a decent player, tall and athletic but also good on the ball.

Drysdale was by far the poorest performer in the backline.
 

fatso

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  • Jul 27, 2021
  • #104
Liquid Gold said:
I was impressed by Bushiri on Saturday. Looked a decent player, tall and athletic but also good on the ball.

Drysdale was by far the poorest performer in the backline.
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Drysdale seems to have gone backwards in the last 12 months, he was looking really good last pre season, and was very highly rated, those 2 loan moves couldnt of done him any good.
Such a pity, he should be pressing for a start by now, instead we are looking to loan younger lads in his position. What went wrong?
 

larry_david

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  • Jul 27, 2021
  • #105
fatso said:
Drysdale seems to have gone backwards in the last 12 months, he was looking really good last pre season, and was very highly rated, those 2 loan moves couldnt of done him any good.
Such a pity, he should be pressing for a start by now, instead we are looking to loan younger lads in his position. What went wrong?
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Or you know, he had a bad 60 mins in his first match back since covid after the end of season break. Nah you're right let's bin him
 
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