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Robins post match/mcallum sale (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Jan 28, 2020
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Grendel

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  • Jan 30, 2020
  • #316
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Wonder if there will be a second bid coming in today?
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You would assume so. If it is a premier league club McCallum and certainly his agent would be pushing a move
 
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bradwellskyblues

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 30, 2020
  • #317
i am told its Norwich
 
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Briles

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  • Jan 30, 2020
  • #318
bradwellskyblues said:
i am told its Norwich
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I was told it was Bournemouth
 

lord_garrincha

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  • Jan 30, 2020
  • #319
bradwellskyblues said:
i am told its Norwich
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Briles said:
I was told it was Bournemouth
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I've been told nothing, so I will canvass opinions from the Facebook fan page... I am expecting something like:

"I've heard he's going to a Premier League down south... so it looks like Leeds."
 
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better days

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  • Jan 30, 2020
  • #320
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Wonder if there will be a second bid coming in today?
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I'd be surprised if the bidding club doesn't make further bid(s)
I don't think we're under pressure to sell
It will just be a case of whether an offer too big to refuse arrives before the deadline
 
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cc84cov

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  • Jan 30, 2020
  • #321
better days said:
I'd be surprised if the bidding club doesn't make further bid(s)
I don't think we're under pressure to sell
It will just be a case of whether an offer too big to refuse arrives before the deadline
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Window closes tomorrow I’m expecting to see things hot up usually there is a surprise in the jan window
 

torchomatic

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  • Jan 30, 2020
  • #322
I wonder what Sam McCallum will think is best for Sam McCallum? If he stays he will get game time, more experience but a lot less money. If he goes he will get more money, that Range Rover Sport he's had his eye on, but probably be playing in the U23s in front a few old blokes on a Tuesday afternoon. I hope he is sensisible.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jan 30, 2020
  • #323
torchomatic said:
I wonder what Sam McCallum will think is best for Sam McCallum? If he stays he will get get game time, more experience but a lot less money. If he goes he will get more money, that Range Rover Sport he's had his eye on, but probably be playing in the U23s in front a few old blokes on a Tuesday afternoon. I hope he sensisible.
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He left Herne Bay’s first team to go into our 23s didn’t he? So did the likes of Allasani, Walters, Bosma and Newton leave playing first team to play in our 23s.
 

1ccfc

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  • Jan 30, 2020
  • #324
torchomatic said:
If he goes he will get more money, that Range Rover Sport he's had his eye on, but probably be playing in the U23s in front a few old blokes on a Tuesday afternoon. I hope he sensisible.
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I hope he's sensible too. When he gets his Range Rover Sport make sure it's in black.
 
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torchomatic

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  • Jan 30, 2020
  • #325
SlowerThanPlatt said:
He left Herne Bay’s first team to go into our 23s didn’t he? So did the likes of Allasani, Bosma and Newton leave playing first team to play in our 23s.
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Yes, he did, but he has had a taste of first team football now. He is developing. He is playing competitive football. Going back to U23s would surely be a backward step?
 

cc84cov

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  • Jan 30, 2020
  • #326
torchomatic said:
Yes, he did, but he has had a taste of first team football now. He is developing. He is playing competitive football. Going back to U23s would surely be a backward step?
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Money talks I’m afraid I think he goes by end of tomorrow
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jan 30, 2020
  • #327
torchomatic said:
Yes, he did, but he has had a taste of first team football now. He is developing. He is playing competitive football. Going back to U23s would surely be a backward step?
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Well yes but if he believes in his own ability to play at that level then he’ll be going.

The players I mentioned were all playing first team at their clubs but it’s always “great signing exactly what we should be doing” and not bemoaning them when we sign them to develop
 
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Joy Division

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  • Jan 30, 2020
  • #328
If I was him a move to Norwich or Bournemouth would be a good choice. Good stable clubs with premier league income who like developing youth but with a strong possibility of being relegated and more potential to be in and around the first team next season.
 
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rob9872

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  • Jan 30, 2020
  • #329
Whether it's Norwich or Bournemouth, there's a chance we'll be in the same league as either or both next season anyhow. That said, a decent pathway in a team likely to be doing well in the Champ next season could get him a bigger move the year after when older, stronger and more experienced (ala Maddison) so a chunky add on fee would be the best option (lower sale value with 25% not the usual 10% would be nice)
 
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rob9872

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  • Jan 30, 2020
  • #330
This is taking the piss now! Am I on the Truman show? Posted that at the same time as me too!
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jan 30, 2020
  • #331
rob9872 said:
Whether it's Norwich or Bournemouth, there's a chance we'll be in the same league as either or both next season anyhow. That said, a decent pathway in a team likely to be doing well in the Champ next season could get him a bigger move the year after when older, stronger and more experienced (ala Maddison) so a chunky add on fee would be the best option (lower sale value with 25% not the usual 10% would be nice)
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The club has to negotiate the best fee for the club now which will be most of it upfront.

If you want a much bigger sell on fee than that means there’d be less upfront money and the club would be taking a huge gamble that the player first gets into their first team which is difficult as it is and then performs to a level bigger clubs want him. If it does happen would take about 2 or 3 years, possibly longer
 

rob9872

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  • Jan 30, 2020
  • #332
SlowerThanPlatt said:
The club has to negotiate the best fee for the club now which will be most of it upfront.

If you want a much bigger sell on fee than that means there’d be less upfront money and the club would be taking a huge gamble that the player first gets into their first team which is difficult as it is and then performs to a level bigger clubs want him. If it does happen would take about 2 or 3 years, possibly longer
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I agree, but if we can get % of £m in two seasons, then having sold Bayliss this season to plug the gap, surely they can see the benefit in what Wilson Maddison etc are going to be? Yes he could be a Gael or a Ben Stevenson, but only need one of them to come off to soak up all the others. I guess it depends if they think they'll still be here in a couple of years.
 
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torchomatic

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  • Jan 30, 2020
  • #333
Joy Division said:
If I was him a move to Norwich or Bournemouth would be a good choice. Good stable clubs with premier league income who like developing youth but with a strong possibility of being relegated and more potential to be in and around the first team next season.
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Agree, Maddison and Wilson did it the right way.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jan 30, 2020
  • #334
rob9872 said:
I agree, but if we can get % of £m in two seasons, then having sold Bayliss this season to plug the gap, surely they can see the benefit in what Wilson Maddison etc are going to be? Yes he could be a Gael or a Ben Stevenson, but only need one of them to come off to soak up all the others. I guess it depends if they think they'll still be here in a couple of years.
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We don’t have this privilege unfortunately. We are a club who needs as much upfront money as possible

Upfront money is guaranteed. A sell on fee is not and is unlikely to ever happen. How many sell on fees have we actually benefited from in the last 15 years?
 
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Grendel

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  • Jan 30, 2020
  • #335
From his perspective I’m sure he’d wavy to go as I’d guess it’s a much bigger wage. Footballs a ruthless game - he could get an injury like Jones and the chance never materialises or like Bigiramana have one shot at it and financially set themselves up
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 30, 2020
  • #336
better days said:
I'd be surprised if the bidding club doesn't make further bid(s)
I don't think we're under pressure to sell
It will just be a case of whether an offer too big to refuse arrives before the deadline
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Thanks mark
 
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rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 30, 2020
  • #337
SlowerThanPlatt said:
We don’t have this privilege unfortunately. We are a club who needs as much upfront money as possible

Upfront money is guaranteed. A sell on fee is not and is unlikely to ever happen. How many sell on fees have we actually benefited from in the last 15 years?
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I guess it depends if they rust in what the playing staff say and if Robins thinks what he has is special or not. We would certainly have benefitted more from Maddison or Wilson with a bigger sell on fee, but of course you're right it is a gamble.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 30, 2020
  • #338
Joy Division said:
If I was him a move to Norwich or Bournemouth would be a good choice. Good stable clubs with premier league income who like developing youth but with a strong possibility of being relegated and more potential to be in and around the first team next season.
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Bournemouth would not be a good choice, if they (hopefully) get relegated, they'll be back in League 1 within a few years
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Jan 30, 2020
  • #339
Sky Blue Pete said:
Thanks mark
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As the weeks go on, im more and more confident that @better days is Robins lol
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jan 30, 2020
  • #340
I don’t think it would be in Robins interest to reduce the fee significantly and ask the board for a bigger sell on. It’s unlikely to ever come to fruition and if it did he may not even be here then. His job is to build the most competitive team he can for the current/next season and that’s only more likely to happen by getting the most upfront money possible
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 30, 2020
  • #341
SkyBlueDom26 said:
As the weeks go on, im more and more confident that @better days is Robins lol
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Yep
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 30, 2020
  • #342
Apparently 3m from Norwich and loan back for the season.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jan 30, 2020
  • #343
Nick said:
Apparently 3m from Norwich and loan back for the season.
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They’re quoting sources from Norwich when there’s nothing from their end, not even a mention of his name
 

1ccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 30, 2020
  • #344
Nick said:
Apparently 3m from Norwich and loan back for the season.
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Is that the original bid or a new one?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 30, 2020
  • #345
SlowerThanPlatt said:
They’re quoting sources from Norwich when there’s nothing from their end, not even a mention of his name
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Ah, pinch of salt Klaxon!
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jan 30, 2020
  • #346
1ccfc said:
Is that the original bid or a new one?
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Coventry considering improved Norwich bid for teenage ace

It’s one of their exclusives

What’s odd about this though is that I would presume it’s come from a journalist connected to Norwich but they’ve not actually reported the story themselves?
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Jan 30, 2020
  • #347
try squeeze them for 4/5mill at least
 

better days

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  • Jan 30, 2020
  • #348
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Coventry considering improved Norwich bid for teenage ace

It’s one of their exclusives

What’s odd about this though is that I would presume it’s come from a journalist connected to Norwich but they’ve not actually reported the story themselves?
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This could be right
Norwich has close association with us
 

cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 30, 2020
  • #349
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Coventry considering improved Norwich bid for teenage ace

It’s one of their exclusives

What’s odd about this though is that I would presume it’s come from a journalist connected to Norwich but they’ve not actually reported the story themselves?
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@SlowerThanPlatt told ya mate it would be more than previous left backs etc
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Jan 30, 2020
  • #350
better days said:
This could be right
Norwich has close association with us
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Do you honestly think if this goes through Robins might be able to get someone in if he wants?
 
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