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SimonGilbert · Nov 23, 2015

Appreciate we'd rather not be discussing this stuff at the moment, but a couple of stories have just gone up which you might find interesting.

The timing is purely down to the fact these documents have been made public today, one week ahead of the ethics committee hearing next week.

There's a lot of interesting material for you to digest.

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/report-dismisses-sisu-complaint-conduct-10488046

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/sisu-chief-joy-seppala-accuses-10487881

shmmeee · Nov 23, 2015

For those who can't be arsed to click on the links:

He said

She said

SimonGilbert · Nov 23, 2015

shmmeee said:
For those who can't be arsed to click on the links:

Precisely. All seems utterly unnecessary.

Nick · Nov 23, 2015

The bit that stands out for me is SISU's new lawyer.

And that there is Rugby at the ricoh with music.

chiefdave · Nov 23, 2015

The panel is chaired by Labour Councillor Joseph Clifford and includes Labour colleagues Coun Damian Gannon, Coun John McNicholas and Coun Linda Bigham as well as Tory member Coun Allan Andrews.

the independent report, paid for by the council

All seems totally above board to me

Sure the fact that no meetings about the Ricoh appear to have been minuted or recorded is anything to worry about.

fernandopartridge · Nov 23, 2015

The council were hardly going to commission a report that didn't exonerate the behaviour of councillors and SISU were hardly going to agree with that outcome.

I think Lucas and Mutton do come across as unprofessional, particularly the latter.

I'm not sure overall what the point of this is mind.

Bertola · Nov 23, 2015

is it ethical journalism to include what is stated at Sepalla's phone number? I wouldve expected that to have been at least blurred out

wingy · Nov 23, 2015

fernandopartridge said:
The council were hardly going to commission a report that didn't exonerate the behaviour of councillors and SISU were hardly going to agree with that outcome.

I think Lucas and Mutton do come across as unprofessional, particularly the latter.

I'm not sure overall what the point of this is mind.

I think Its an attempt to have the final word In a battle lost.

Nick · Nov 23, 2015

fernandopartridge said:
The council were hardly going to commission a report that didn't exonerate the behaviour of councillors and SISU were hardly going to agree with that outcome.

I think Lucas and Mutton do come across as unprofessional, particularly the latter.

I'm not sure overall what the point of this is mind.

Imagine if they bring Maton into it. He is just the guy who they basically roll out to say "Screw you if you don't like it".

Deleted member 5849 · Nov 23, 2015

Bertola said:
is it ethical journalism to include what is stated at Sepalla's phone number? I wouldve expected that to have been at least blurred out

It is the work number, and thus readily available.

chiefdave · Nov 23, 2015

The contents of this report and any accompanying documents are confidential and must not be disclosed

Not very confidential now!

fernandopartridge · Nov 23, 2015

chiefdave said:
Not very confidential now!

Presumably the ethics committee is a matter of public record.

SimonGilbert · Nov 23, 2015

fernandopartridge said:
Presumably the ethics committee is a matter of public record.

Hearing will be held in public on Monday. Come and join me. I've re-arranged my holiday specially.

Deleted member 5849 · Nov 23, 2015

SimonGilbert said:
Hearing will be held in public on Monday. Come and join me. I've re-arranged my holiday specially.

Who needs Benedorm eh.

covcity4life · Nov 23, 2015

john mutton piece of shit

Specs WT-R75 · Nov 23, 2015

SimonGilbert said:
Hearing will be held in public on Monday. Come and join me. I've re-arranged my holiday specially.

Oooh, will you bring the popcorn Simon!? Where is it held?

covcity4life · Nov 23, 2015

Specs WT-R75 said:
Oooh, will you bring the popcorn Simon!? Where is it held?

in his hands or on his lap with a hole cut out the bottom i imagine.

Specs WT-R75 · Nov 23, 2015

covcity4life said:
in his hands or on his lap with a hole cut out the bottom i imagine.

Ugh that is why his popcorn tastes kinda salty.

Sub · Nov 23, 2015

As normal things are going right on the pitch so we have to go and mess things up off the pitch FFS why cant people just keep quiet. A distraction from how well things are going is the last thing the club needs:facepalm:

SimonGilbert · Nov 23, 2015

covcity4life said:
in his hands or on his lap with a hole cut out the bottom i imagine.

Tea spat on screen. Thanks!

Kingokings204 · Nov 23, 2015

It's just more bs. Let's move past this he said she said crap. No one cares. I care about the football and top of the league. Us fans can't control Ann Lucas and Joy have a slanging match. I don't care!!!!

SimonGilbert · Nov 23, 2015

Sub said:
As normal things are going right on the pitch so we have to go and mess things up off the pitch FFS why cant people just keep quiet. A distraction from how well things are going is the last thing the club needs:facepalm:

Couldn't agree more. But this report and accompanying documents are now in the public domain. If we don't report it, it would get out anyway. There's also a public interest argument.

Sisu are the ones pursuing this complaint. They may have a case, they may not. What is for certain is that it as unfortunate distraction and comes across as a bit self-defeating at a time when they are top of the table and in credit with the fans.

Just my view.

Specs WT-R75 · Nov 23, 2015

SimonGilbert said:
Couldn't agree more. But this report and accompanying documents are now in the public domain. If we don't report it, it would get out anyway. There's also a public interest argument.

Sisu are the ones pursuing this complaint. They may have a case, they may not. What is for certain is that it as unfortunate distraction and comes across as a bit self-defeating at a time when they are top of the table and in credit with the fans.

Just my view.

What's the end game here Simon? After the ethics committee sweep it aside, do they then get to appeal to an independent panel or the government?

Nick · Nov 23, 2015

Sub said:
As normal things are going right on the pitch so we have to go and mess things up off the pitch FFS why cant people just keep quiet. A distraction from how well things are going is the last thing the club needs:facepalm:

It is dated May I think. So it isn't as if they have thought they were doing well so did it.

The articles don't state that but the leaked letter does. Let's not let that get in the way of a rant against them doing something just as we go top of the league though.

wingy · Nov 23, 2015

Best thing we should do Is let the Thread and distraction die.

SimonGilbert · Nov 23, 2015

Specs WT-R75 said:
What's the end game here Simon? After the ethics committee sweep it aside, do they then get to appeal to an independent panel or the government?

There's also a complaint filed with the Local Government Ombudsman. http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/exclusive-coventry-city-fc-owners-9251200

I would imagine Sisu would have to demonstrate they've been through all the available procedures before that complaints process is concluded.

They would probably have to demonstrate they've taken all other available action if they were to pursue legal recourse - perhaps launching damages claims against individuals for instance.

I'm not suggesting that's their intention by the way, merely hypothesising.

Nick · Nov 23, 2015

SimonGilbert said:
Couldn't agree more. But this report and accompanying documents are now in the public domain. If we don't report it, it would get out anyway. There's also a public interest argument.

Sisu are the ones pursuing this complaint. They may have a case, they may not. What is for certain is that it as unfortunate distraction and comes across as a bit self-defeating at a time when they are top of the table and in credit with the fans.

Just my view.

Simon, is that letter not from May though? Why is it being pushed as happening just as we go top and in credit with the fans? Unless the date is wrong.

skybluesam66 · Nov 23, 2015

Nick said:
The bit that stands out for me is SISU's new lawyer.

Is this bigis new job??.

Nick · Nov 23, 2015

It has certainly seen a rise in NOPM though, got the froth going.

It isn't something that has been done just as we go top though is it? Might be worth pointing it out as it is the way people seem to be taking it and what is implied in Simon's post.

SimonGilbert · Nov 23, 2015

Nick said:
Simon, is that letter not from May though? Why is it being pushed as happening just as we go top and in credit with the fans? Unless the date is wrong.

The letter only became public today when it was published online along with all the other documents ahead of the Ethics Committee meeting on Monday, November 30.

Nick · Nov 23, 2015

SimonGilbert said:
The letter only became public today when it was published online along with all the other documents ahead of the Ethics Committee meeting on Monday, November 30.

Yes, but it isn't something that has suddenly happened though which is very much how people are taking it and what you tried to imply in your post above.

What is for certain is that it as unfortunate distraction and comes across as a bit self-defeating at a time when they are top of the table and in credit with the fans.

I could understand if it was action they took out today, but it was from May wasn't it but the article doesn't make that very clear (it doesn't say that at all unless you read the letter). Unless SISU saw into the future and planned it so it was done just as we went top?

SimonGilbert · Nov 23, 2015

Nick said:
Yes, but it isn't something that has suddenly happened though which is very much how people are taking it and what you tried to imply in your post above.

The report into the complaint was published today. That's something that has happened today.

We didn't know the full details of the complaint until today. That's why we reported it today.

oldfiver · Nov 23, 2015

SimonGilbert said:
Couldn't agree more. But this report and accompanying documents are now in the public domain. If we don't report it, it would get out anyway. There's also a public interest argument.

Sisu are the ones pursuing this complaint. They may have a case, they may not. What is for certain is that it as unfortunate distraction and comes across as a bit self-defeating at a time when they are top of the table and in credit with the fans.

Just my view.

Simon
Which table are SISU top of?

SimonGilbert · Nov 23, 2015

oldfiver said:
Simon
Which table are SISU top of?

"They" as in the club they operate, not Sisu.

I sense, you probably knew that though

Nick · Nov 23, 2015

SimonGilbert said:
The report into the complaint was published today. That's something that has happened today.

We didn't know the full details of the complaint until today. That's why we reported it today.

Yes, I understand that but your post also tried to push that it is happening just as we go top.

Why is it self defeating now we have gone top, if they started it in May? Whether it is right or wrong they haven't just started it as we go top of the league have they?

There's no mention of when it started unless you click to see the letter, so it very much comes across as all of it is starting now rather than "Reports published from action started back in May comes out". Then you push the top of the league stuff on here, when really it is just a co-incidence that the report came out today and could never have been predicted back when it was started.

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