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Frostie

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  • Nov 10, 2023
  • #666
Nick said:
Was this in today's press thing?
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Yep.

Wonder what he means by "anomaly" & "ambiguity"

 

Otis

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  • Nov 10, 2023
  • #667
Frostie said:
Yep.

Wonder what he means by "anomaly" & "ambiguity"

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Maybe they are two Italian players we are bringing in, in January.
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Nov 10, 2023
  • #668
Surely this means the player gets a retrospective ban for conning the ref, or is Godden going to be the only player ever to get one?
 
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David O'Day

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  • Nov 10, 2023
  • #669
there's a few folk who need to say sorry
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 10, 2023
  • #670
Otis said:
Maybe they are two Italian players we are bringing in, in January.
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Chinese lad called Confucius as well I've heard

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shepardo01

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  • Nov 10, 2023
  • #671
Nick said:
Was this in today's press thing?
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Another letter/communication (to go with the one from the West Brom game that MR mentioned in his post match Preston interview) saying officials have made a mistake.
Very frustrating....
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Nov 10, 2023
  • #672
fernandopartridge said:
Chinese lad called Confucius as well I've heard

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His welcome video is really annoying - he always indicates he's about to speak by announcing himself in the third person
 

MalcSB

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  • Nov 10, 2023
  • #673
shepardo01 said:
Another letter/communication (to go with the one from the West Brom game that MR mentioned in his post match Preston interview) saying officials have made a mistake.
Very frustrating....
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And will have cost us points, reduced confidence amongst the players and affects future performance - nervousness - costing more points further reducing confidence and so on.
 
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sotvtoday

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  • Nov 10, 2023
  • #674
If we're winning games it's not an issue. Otherwise it's another excuse for losing.
 

shepardo01

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  • Nov 10, 2023
  • #675
sotvtoday said:
If we're winning games it's not an issue. Otherwise it's another excuse for losing.
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Wouldn't call it an excuse, but they are (WBA/Preston) legitimate contributory factors for not picking up any points in those games.
 
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MalcSB

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  • Nov 10, 2023
  • #676
sotvtoday said:
If we're winning games it's not an issue. Otherwise it's another excuse for losing.
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Given the fine margins in most matches, such high value refereeing errors are more than a mere excuse for dropping points.
 
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MalcSB

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  • Nov 10, 2023
  • #677
As an afterthought, if it wasn’t a penalty does Fadz’s yellow card get rescinded? As there was an unawarded penalty in the previous match, does a retrospective card get given?

I expect the answer is no, which makes these things even more annoying, especially given Godden’s retrospective red for a penalty he didn’t even appeal for,
 
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Great_Expectations

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #678
Surprised that absolute shambles of an offside call in the first half, which somehow got reversed in real time, has not been mentioned.

Their striker was clearly miles off, linesman flagged and about 30 seconds later put his flag back down. Stoke went onto shoot and it was goal bound.

Massive credit to Collins for staying switched on, as if he hadn’t of dived to save it, it would have gone in and presumably counted.

It’s such a massive cock up as that decision could have had big implications (again).

Shows the importance of playing to the whistle and well done to the players for doing so, as in reality once that flag goes up the natural reaction is to stop.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #679
Great_Expectations said:
Surprised that absolute shambles of an offside call in the first half, which somehow got reversed in real time, has not been mentioned.

Their striker was clearly miles off, linesman flagged and about 30 seconds later put his flag back down. Stoke went onto shoot and it was goal bound.

Massive credit to Collins for staying switched on, as if he hadn’t of dived to save it, it would have gone in and presumably counted.

It’s such a massive cock up as that decision could have had big implications (again).

Shows the importance of playing to the whistle and well done to the players for doing so, as in reality once that flag goes up the natural reaction is to stop.
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It was haji wright that headed it back towards our goal so not offside
Assistant raised the flag for guy in offside position but ref quite rightly clearly communicated that it was off wright not Stoke player so he put it down
You are bang on about them playing to whistle I’m not sure anyone got it wrong but could easily have been a controversial goal
 
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SBT

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #680
Great_Expectations said:
Surprised that absolute shambles of an offside call in the first half, which somehow got reversed in real time, has not been mentioned.

Their striker was clearly miles off, linesman flagged and about 30 seconds later put his flag back down. Stoke went onto shoot and it was goal bound.

Massive credit to Collins for staying switched on, as if he hadn’t of dived to save it, it would have gone in and presumably counted.

It’s such a massive cock up as that decision could have had big implications (again).

Shows the importance of playing to the whistle and well done to the players for doing so, as in reality once that flag goes up the natural reaction is to stop.
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It was weird but the player isn’t offside until the referee blows the whistle, so he must have overruled the linesman’s flag. Credit to the players for maintaining concentration (although not all of them all did).
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #681
Great_Expectations said:
Surprised that absolute shambles of an offside call in the first half, which somehow got reversed in real time, has not been mentioned.

Their striker was clearly miles off, linesman flagged and about 30 seconds later put his flag back down. Stoke went onto shoot and it was goal bound.

Massive credit to Collins for staying switched on, as if he hadn’t of dived to save it, it would have gone in and presumably counted.

It’s such a massive cock up as that decision could have had big implications (again).

Shows the importance of playing to the whistle and well done to the players for doing so, as in reality once that flag goes up the natural reaction is to stop.
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It was t offside was it?
 
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Great_Expectations

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #682
Sky Blue Pete said:
It was haji wright that headed it back towards our goal so not offside
Assistant raised the flag for guy in offside position but ref quite rightly clearly communicated that it was off wright not Stoke player so he put it down
You are bang on about them playing to whistle I’m not sure anyone got it wrong but could easily have been a controversial goal
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Was it? Fair enough didn’t realise it was Wright in the moment.

Second part still stands though; I know players are told to play to the whistle but they often don’t for offside calls.
 

stupot07

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #683
Sky Blue Pete said:
It was haji wright that headed it back towards our goal so not offside
Assistant raised the flag for guy in offside position but ref quite rightly clearly communicated that it was off wright not Stoke player so he put it down
You are bang on about them playing to whistle I’m not sure anyone got it wrong but could easily have been a controversial goal
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Pro's are the worst at not playing to the whistle.



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Adge

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #684
So then-we’ve bashed the hell out of referees over the last month (some calls quite rightly), so just for balance are we to credit the referee for that call when he quite rightly overruled his assistants flag? Can just imagine the meltdown on here if the ball would have ended up in our net, albeit the right call was made.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #685
Sky Blue Pete said:
It was haji wright that headed it back towards our goal so not offside
Assistant raised the flag for guy in offside position but ref quite rightly clearly communicated that it was off wright not Stoke player so he put it down
You are bang on about them playing to whistle I’m not sure anyone got it wrong but could easily have been a controversial goal
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Doesn't look like he won the header. The Stoke defender unsurprisingly outmuscles Haji.

 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #686
Thomas definitely stopped playing, and he was the closest defender to their attacker who also momentarily stopped. Both had clearly seen the linesman put his flag up. Given that these days linesmen are not encouraged to put there flags up until after a passage of play is complete I can see why they stopped. By their own guidelines now though, the linesman should have kept his flag down until the move was complete, and then put his flag up if he believed the player offside.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #687
pusbccfc said:
Doesn't look like he won the header. The Stoke defender unsurprisingly outmuscles Haji.

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Interesting
 

stupot07

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #688
All Simms had to do was a first time pass and we probably score here, after Eccles good work.



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Deleted member 9744

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #689
Sky Blue Pete said:
It was haji wright that headed it back towards our goal so not offside
Assistant raised the flag for guy in offside position but ref quite rightly clearly communicated that it was off wright not Stoke player so he put it down
You are bang on about them playing to whistle I’m not sure anyone got it wrong but could easily have been a controversial goal
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It doesn't look like Wright won the header at all to me from watching the highlights.
 
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Speedies_Chips

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #690
stupot07 said:
All Simms had to do was a first time pass and we probably score here, after Eccles good work.



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What's that got to do with the referee?
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #691
stupot07 said:
All Simms had to do was a first time pass and we probably score here, after Eccles good work.



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Nothing to do with referring but spot on. Eccles get criticised all the time for Simms lack of goals yet he sets him up here and Simms slashes it wide. Simms either had to hit the target or pass the ball back to Eccles. And people complain at Simms being taken off after this and his total lack of challenge for a header just before this.
 

stupot07

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #692
Speedies_Chips said:
What's that got to do with the referee?
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Nothing to do with the referee, just that the highlights were posted in this thread.

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Voice_of_Reason

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #693
fernandopartridge said:
Chinese lad called Confucius as well I've heard

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No, Chinese players are Hui Wan Once and Lon Tyme Sin
 
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Tomh111

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #694
I thought yesterday was better, the glaring error being the offside.

I think the right call was made, it looked like Wright headed it from where I was and I'm not sure the replays are clear.

However, the linesman should be saying to the referee he is offside, then communicating before flagging/not flagging.

To wave the flag, then drop it is asking for trouble, as was nearly evidenced yesterday.


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Adge

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #695
Legia Sky Blue said:
Thomas definitely stopped playing, and he was the closest defender to their attacker who also momentarily stopped. Both had clearly seen the linesman put his flag up. Given that these days linesmen are not encouraged to put there flags up until after a passage of play is complete I can see why they stopped. By their own guidelines now though, the linesman should have kept his flag down until the move was complete, and then put his flag up if he believed the player offside.
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Not really-that’s just because of VAR being used.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #696
Tomh111 said:
I thought yesterday was better, the glaring error being the offside.

I think the right call was made, it looked like Wright headed it from where I was and I'm not sure the replays are clear.

However, the linesman should be saying to the referee he is offside, then communicating before flagging/not flagging.

To wave the flag, then drop it is asking for trouble, as was nearly evidenced yesterday.


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Definitely better yesterday.
 

pusbccfc

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #697
A controversial penalty given by Anthony Taylor already...
 

Frostie

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #698
pusbccfc said:
A controversial penalty given by Anthony Taylor already...
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Let down by his VAR again imo.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #699
Frostie said:
Let down by his VAR again imo.
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Agreed.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #700
Frostie said:
Let down by his VAR again imo.
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Yes they should have spotted that Haaland committed the first foul.
 
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