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Match Thread Portsmouth FC - Coventry City Match Thread - Tuesday 21st Oct (27 Viewers)

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Flying Fokker

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  • Yesterday at 6:37 AM
  • #211
Calista said:
Baffling to see multiple negative comments about EMC across various threads on here, including criticisms of workrate and awareness. Such a fine player, and I'm always very happy to see him on the team sheet.
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Gibbo said:
My instant summary of EMC

Just because we are criticizing does not mean we think he is no good

1. Colossal potential. two good crosses, two goals shows that. A match winner
2. But just not maxing out on that potential. Only two crosses. The same is true of Sakamoto - not enough crosses
3. The defensive cover / day dreaming bit he'll learn. It's just a bit of a nuisance right now
4. Defenders don't give him the space they did when he was new and unheard of
5. There is an ongoing fitness question
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All of that. Number 5 is the real focus for me Not because of the other 4 reasons but because players need to regain strength/match fitness. We also don’t know what Lampard wants him to do either. He’d take any player off if they look like they need a rest.
 

shmmeee

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  • Yesterday at 7:14 AM
  • #212
rob9872 said:
Well Rafa is on loan, KKH and Brau have proved they can play there, BTA has been deployed on both wings and before this season Haji has played largely on the left so we have options, but apart from that they're our only 2 wingers.
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Apart from the players who aren’t at the club and don’t play there ? Yeah good one.
 
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Johhny Blue

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  • Yesterday at 7:29 AM
  • #213
Nothing to worry about. Their whole team have only scored one goal more than Hadji
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Yesterday at 7:49 AM
  • #214
Very confident of a win on the pompey board
They think the playoffs are a possibility, just need their strikers to find their mojo
 

rob9872

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  • Yesterday at 7:57 AM
  • #215
shmmeee said:
Apart from the players who aren’t at the club and don’t play there ? Yeah good one.
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I would argue back that you suggested we didn't have options. We do. But I'm reluctant to press it further for fear of you decreeing a fatwa on me.
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Yesterday at 8:01 AM
  • #216
I think every match here on out I’m expecting to lose as I’ve followed us long enough and our start is mental (will change one we lose one)

Same team as against blackburn? Only change being Josh Eccles hopefully fit enough to start on the bench
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Yesterday at 8:02 AM
  • #217
rob9872 said:
I would argue back that you suggested we didn't have options. We do. But I'm reluctant to press it further for fear of you decreeing a fatwa on me.
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Needs a wow and a laugh emoji
 

TomRad85

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  • Yesterday at 8:03 AM
  • #218
Sky Blue Goblin said:
I think every match here on out I’m expecting to lose as I’ve followed us long enough and our start is mental (will change one we lose one)

Same team as against blackburn? Only change being Josh Eccles hopefully fit enough to start on the bench
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Yeh I'd bring Eccles in. I don't think I'd be starting BTA in the 10 for this one tbh. Be tempted to have Sakamoto on the bench to start with.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 8:05 AM
  • #219
TomRad85 said:
I really don't want to go a goal down with this clown on the whistle.
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I feel like Saturday’s ref did have a bad game with us last season but is generally good. Gavin Ward however has shit games with us and is generally garbage.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 8:11 AM
  • #220
Sky Blue Pete said:
Very confident of a win on the pompey board
They think the playoffs are a possibility, just need their strikers to find their mojo
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Don’t see why they wouldn’t be, we have to lose eventually (though would be nice if we never did again) and they’ve taken 4 points from Boro and Lesta.

Styles make matches though
 
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David O'Day

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  • Yesterday at 8:12 AM
  • #221
JSL said:
To be fair, when Brau has got on, he has been a bit headless chicken and not impressed
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He's looked pretty good, even more so when he's actually played at LB.
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Yesterday at 8:20 AM
  • #222
They won't cope with the 'glow'
 
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David O'Day

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  • Yesterday at 8:24 AM
  • #223
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Don’t see why they wouldn’t be, we have to lose eventually (though would be nice if we never did again) and they’ve taken 4 points from Boro and Lesta.

Styles make matches though
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Yes they should be but we should be even more confident as we are in even better form and have a much better team.

Also our strikers actually have found their mojo.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Yesterday at 8:34 AM
  • #224
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I feel like Saturday’s ref did have a bad game with us last season but is generally good. Gavin Ward however has shit games with us and is generally garbage.
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I'll be honest I tend to forget about most of them until their faces come up and I'm like, "fucking hell not that clown." That's probably most of the refs in this league on reflection, I do remember getting really wound up be Allison, Ward and Madley though.
 

lord_garrincha

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  • Yesterday at 8:36 AM
  • #225
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I feel like Saturday’s ref did have a bad game with us last season but is generally good. Gavin Ward however has shit games with us and is generally garbage.
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His credit in the bank for the Bayliss & Godden pens is running low.
 
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jordan210

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  • Yesterday at 8:46 AM
  • #226
 
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fatso

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  • Yesterday at 8:46 AM
  • #227
Gibbo said:
My instant summary of EMC

Just because we are criticizing does not mean we think he is no good

1. Colossal potential. two good crosses, two goals shows that. A match winner
2. But just not maxing out on that potential. Only two crosses. The same is true of Sakamoto - not enough crosses
3. The defensive cover / day dreaming bit he'll learn. It's just a bit of a nuisance right now
4. Defenders don't give him the space they did when he was new and unheard of
5. There is an ongoing fitness question
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He didn't put 2 good crosses in for the goals though.
He actually put 2 very poor crosses in that were on the head of the CH. It was the poor defensive headers that gifted us the goals.
Schoolboys are taught not to head the ball to the danger area (edge of the box where midfielders are lurking)
Those goals were down to piss poor clearances.

I don't think hes a bad player, but I do think there's more to come from him, and im not sure hes 100% fit yet.
 
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rob9872

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  • Yesterday at 8:49 AM
  • #228
shmmeee said:
I said we’ve got two wingers at the club, you named a player not at the club and a bunch of players who aren’t wingers. Now we’re onto “suggested”.

Get back to shouting at anyone who points out racists.
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It's a tough call whether your knowledge is weaker on football, politics or being a decent human being.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Yesterday at 8:53 AM
  • #229
fatso said:
He didn't put 2 good crosses in for the goals though.
He actually put 2 very poor crosses in that were on the head of the CH. It was the poor defensive headers that gifted us the goals.
Schoolboys are taught not to head the ball to the danger area (edge of the box where midfielders are lurking)
Those goals were down to piss poor clearances.

I don't think hes a bad player, but I do think there's more to come from him, and im not sure hes 100% fit yet.
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You have to give him credit for the ability to attack the full back he’s so direct
If he could pick a pass then woah
 

SkyblueTexan

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  • Yesterday at 8:54 AM
  • #230
ptr said:
Korean lad up top for them looks decent.
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Apparently a Spurs loanee in the mould of Heung-min Son who left for the US.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Yesterday at 8:55 AM
  • #231
Anyone else notice the celebration of both goals Kitching making sure every player came over and then doing a quick team talk
Interesting to see
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Yesterday at 9:04 AM
  • #232
SkyblueTexan said:
Apparently a Spurs loanee in the mould of Heung-min Son who left for the US.
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Good player
 
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SkyblueTexan

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  • Yesterday at 9:10 AM
  • #233
Sky Blue Pete said:
Anyone else notice the celebration of both goals Kitching making sure every player came over and then doing a quick team talk
Interesting to see
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Yes, saw the huddle and quick team talk following the goals in the City Unseen video. Good for them to find moments to communicate and stay on the same page.
 
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SBT

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  • Yesterday at 9:11 AM
  • #234
Sky Blue Harry H said:
They won't cope with the 'glow'
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I swear to god if we get promoted in this abomination of a kit then King must resign
 
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SonofErnie

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  • Yesterday at 9:13 AM
  • #235
fatso said:
He didn't put 2 good crosses in for the goals though.
He actually put 2 very poor crosses in that were on the head of the CH. It was the poor defensive headers that gifted us the goals.
Schoolboys are taught not to head the ball to the danger area (edge of the box where midfielders are lurking)
Those goals were down to piss poor clearances.

I don't think hes a bad player, but I do think there's more to come from him, and im not sure hes 100% fit yet.
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In most cases crosses are not directly targeted for an attacking player, but are put into a danger area where you can feed off a poor clearance if one of your players doesn’t get to it.

How many times this season have we scored goals from exactly that scenario?
 
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Gibbo

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  • Yesterday at 9:13 AM
  • #236
jordan210 said:
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I say this every time we play Pompey, that the 3-3 draw with 9 men was the moment the Robins years turned from recovery to growth. We could beat anyone in League 1. And the Kastaneer tackle well what can you say?
 
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Gibbo

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  • Yesterday at 9:15 AM
  • #237
fatso said:
He didn't put 2 good crosses in for the goals though.
He actually put 2 very poor crosses in that were on the head of the CH. It was the poor defensive headers that gifted us the goals.
Schoolboys are taught not to head the ball to the danger area (edge of the box where midfielders are lurking)
Those goals were down to piss poor clearances.

I don't think hes a bad player, but I do think there's more to come from him, and im not sure hes 100% fit yet.
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They were good crosses that put the opposition under pressure...and led directly to goals
 
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Speedie's Head

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  • Yesterday at 9:15 AM
  • #238
fatso said:
I don't think hes a bad player, but I do think there's more to come from him, and im not sure hes 100% fit yet.
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Wingers by the nature of the job are always taking knocks just because they beat their man so often. With a big strong lad the extra weight (over a smaller fella) can be a burden too. He's probably always feeling something or other, however, I think though he needs more awareness of what's going on in the box. The ball is always at his feet and he's concentrating hard on his skills maybe he just needs to give himself a yard and enough time to look up. MVE does this well.
 
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Speedie's Head

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  • Yesterday at 9:19 AM
  • #239
fatso said:
Dasilva would be ranked a lot higher if he didn't have EMC in front of him, honestly ive never seen a player lose his man and let him run off him as often as EMC.
He needs to learn to do the defensive work as well as the attacking part.

Against Leicester Dasilva had BTA in front of him and he didn't do the defensive stuff either which left JDS exposed against one of the best wingers in the league.

Very few people spot this and they just think JDS is having a poor game.
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It would be interesting to see some heat maps. I feel Grimes often covers the left as it's a weakness for us.
 
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Mcbean

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  • Yesterday at 9:24 AM
  • #240
Sky Blue Pete said:
Very confident of a win on the pompey board
They think the playoffs are a possibility, just need their strikers to find their mojo
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I think they are thinking about last year when that game started badly and got worse - we score the first goal and our tails are up ! And then there’s the glow factor
 

JSL

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  • Yesterday at 9:30 AM
  • #241
SBT said:
I swear to god if we get promoted in this abomination of a kit then King must resign
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A lot of fans think it is a great kit. Ipswich got promoted when their away kit was similar.
 
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mrtrench

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  • Yesterday at 9:32 AM
  • #242
I hope I don't regret this; I think we will beat them.

The caveat is always 'if we turn up' but we seem to be doing that every game this season. I think we will win a lot of away games this season because the home team won't put 11 behind the ball, giving our attack space. And we have so many players perfectly able to score this year: not only the central midfield but Ephron and Tats have an eye for goal too. And whilst I've faced criticism here and maintain my view that we could improve on Haji, he can finish and I like that he's putting more effort into open play too.

So I'm going for a win for most away games including this. We may be Norwiched several times at home and fail to score though.
 
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SkyBlueSoul

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  • Yesterday at 9:33 AM
  • #243
Speedie's Head said:
It would be interesting to see some heat maps. I feel Grimes often covers the left as it's a weakness for us.
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Found Grimes’. You’re right, lots in the central and defensive area with a bit on the left. Generally dominates the opposition

 
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Sick Boy

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  • Yesterday at 9:35 AM
  • #244
Potbellypig said:
It's easy to not be a topic of conversation as it's all going extremely well, but it does feel like Lampard has some extremes in his relationships to players. It feels like he either absolutely loves you, or you're cannon fodder. Not much in-between.
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There’s no evidence of that whatsoever. Considering NB was gobbing off and waving his arms at his teammates despite doing nothing himself suggests they probably don’t miss him much.
 
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SkyBlue_Adam

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  • Yesterday at 9:37 AM
  • #245
Sky Blue Pete said:
Very confident of a win on the pompey board
They think the playoffs are a possibility, just need their strikers to find their mojo
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15 clubs in this league probs think the exact same
 
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