Match Thread Coventry City - Millwall FC Match Thread - Tuesday 20th Jan (52 Viewers)

[David O'Day]

Every season we hear Millwall fans complaining that their reputation isn't justified or complaining about a large police presence at their games. Yet we regularly also hear about trouble involving Millwall.

Just a thought but maybe the best way to get rid of the reputation is to stop causing trouble?

They know what they are

 

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[Mucca Mad Boys]

The back four were exposed by Leicester's tactical dominance in midfield.

It is always a bit easy and dumb just to blame defenders when your whole midfield isn't working.

First half we got it completely wrong. We tried to win the ball high up the pitch and it failed and Leicester were able to bypass the midfield.

2nd half we tightened it up, Grimes and Torp actually played alongside one another and the issues corrected themselves. We looked comfortable in the second half and in the end, no one can argue that we deserved the win.

 

[Para1140]

Having been to the old Cold Blow Lane i can testify that the new den is a piece of cake in comparison
You can actually enjoy the away day now

I remember going there with my mate as two 17 year olds with Harry Shaw. The coach got us there that early the ground wasnt even open and they dropped us all off in some nearby high street and told us to have a walk around the place

when we finally got to the ground it reminded me of a prisoner of war camp with barb wire and fencing every where not to mention the abuse from the millwall who could just see were ready to rip us apart.
it was the game where Speedie had to go in goal and the drive home on the coach was no better.

been to the new Den a couple of times and have to say Ive not had any issues and found the locals quit friendly and willing to have a chat over a beer

 

[edgy]

Braced for a much tougher test than Saturday. Who knows.

They'll be a lot more resilient and stubborn than Leicester were in the second half. They don't score many though. If we can score twice, I think we win this one. Wouldnt be surprised by a 0-0 though.

 

[David O'Day]

First half we got it completely wrong. We tried to win the ball high up the pitch and it failed and Leicester were able to bypass the midfield.

2nd half we tightened it up, Grimes and Torp actually played alongside one another and the issues corrected themselves. We looked comfortable in the second half and in the end, no one can argue that we deserved the win.

Yeah we dropped into more of a mid block as you say and after that only one team was really going to win.

 

[TomRad85]

Millwall are not capable of playing how Leicester played in the first half. Whatever you think of Leicester, when they can be bothered they have some of the best individuals in the league, they just completely lack motivation for the most part. Millwall could dig in sure but i fancy us to have too much for them.

 

[David O'Day]

Millwall are not capable of playing how Leicester played in the first half. Whatever you think of Leicester, when they can be bothered they have some of the best individuals in the league, they just completely lack motivation for the most part. Millwall could dig in sure but i fancy us to have too much for them.

Yeah Millwall are is some ways the opposite of Leicester, Leicester are highly talented but very dysfunctional where as Millwall are far more limited but well organised.

 

[Para1140]

Blast From The Past: On This Day 1989: Oggie & Speedie Can’t Prevent A Mauling At The Den : Coventry City Former Players Association || CCFPA

www.ccfpa.co.uk

 

[Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon]

I remember going there with my mate as two 17 year olds with Harry Shaw. The coach got us there that early the ground wasnt even open and they dropped us all off in some nearby high street and told us to have a walk around the place

when we finally got to the ground it reminded me of a prisoner of war camp with barb wire and fencing every where not to mention the abuse from the millwall who could just see were ready to rip us apart.
it was the game where Speedie had to go in goal and the drive home on the coach was no better.

been to the new Den a couple of times and have to say Ive not had any issues and found the locals quit friendly and willing to have a chat over a beer

I've only been to the New Den but knew we'd arrived in the area when I spotted a kid no older than 8 giving us the finger as the coach drove past. Lovely bit of the world.

 

[curly_tom]

What did the actual taking of the knee achieve in the end, because it did eventually stop? If it mattered so much to so many people (and players) why is it still not in use in football today? In the link I posted, even John Barnes said at the time that the gesture was pointless. Racism still continues around the world, so all it did was highlight the death of a black man in the US and then went worldwide.

Why did it take this one killing of George Floyd to stir up this anger, when thousands of ethnic minorities have been indiscriminately killed by racist police in the US, ever since it was legal (or illegal) to have a gun? Why didn’t Americans rise up beforehand and defend those dead minorities every time someone was unlawfully killed because of the colour of their skin?

I’m not trying to prove I’m right by saying what I said about the misdemeanours of the BLM party. It’s all there, and has been well documented. If you choose not to believe it, that is your right, but it seems to me that stealing money for personal gain and not giving it to the people you represent, is wrong. And yes, there has always been politics in sport, but it’s usually been at board level of institutions like FIFA, the EUFA or the IOC - not out in front on a football pitch or athletic arena.

I used the analogy of what the BBC (a supposedly impartial organisation) did to Trump in relation to what they did to us in the Panorama documentary - changing stuff to make someone look bad. It’s irrelevant whether you like/dislike Trump and what he stands for, it’s the principle of altering the facts to suit someone else’s (the BBC) editorial needs which is wrong.

It seems like you're tying yourself up in knots here. You have come on another club's forum and are attempting to put forward an argument to justify booing a peaceful protest against racism. It doesn't matter where this particular form of protest started. It became a gesture to show solidarity with black people who were subject to racism. It is irrelevant to this argument what some organisers or a movement did with some money? It has absolutely nothing to do with footballers in the UK kneeling for a few seconds to show their support.

You quite clearly did say you were proved right: "2) We were eventually proved right about the BLM when investigations into their organisation revealed significant financial mismanagement"

It is my opinion that anyone who is attempting to justify booing this stand against racism is uncomfortable with this show of solidarity. I don't believe for a second that all those fans are thinking 'let's keep politics out of football'. Why should we keep it out? Why not show our support?

As I said, I know all Millwall fans aren't racist. Of course they're not. I am sure you have many noon-white friends. I just don't think you are being honest with yourself when you argue in favour of the booing.

As for using Trump as an example, the BBC did knit together two things he said, but he still said them. The reason that half of America believe he organised the insurrection on Capitol Hill is not because of propaganda form the BBC. I would avoid using him as an example if you want to prove you are not racist.

 

[Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon]

Yeah Millwall are is some ways the opposite of Leicester, Leicester are highly talented but very dysfunctional where as Millwall are far more limited but well organised.

Exactly the type of team we have really struggled with in recent years but i feel like this season we have enough about us to beat them. It's going to be interesting to see how much we rotate from the weekend and if we set up more like the 2nd half than the 1st.

 

[TomRad85]

Can the Millwall fan and the rest of the dry arses please take it to Off Topic.

 

[curly_tom]

Can the Millwall fan and the rest of the dry arses please take it to Off Topic.

Don't call me a 'dry arse' please

 

[David O'Day]

Exactly the type of team we have really struggled with in recent years but i feel like this season we have enough about us to beat them. It's going to be interesting to see how much we rotate from the weekend and if we set up more like the 2nd half than the 1st.

Yeah and that is where players like Esse become invaluable.

Instead of endless passing the ball but not breaking the lines and then hitting a cross into a box filled with 6ft defenders we have Esse who alongside EMC can beat a man and create chances that way.

 

[David O'Day]

Can the Millwall fan and the rest of the dry arses please take it to Off Topic.

Can't, banned from there.

 

[TomRad85]

Can't, banned from there.

hahaha really?

 

[Hobo]

It's easy when you really want to blame the defenders for a whole XI and manager issue.

An issue that was fixed at half time.

It was fixed to a degree before half time. But fully sorted at half time. These things happen in football. You have to adapt, sometimes the other team has to adapt.

But it annoys me when some fans just point a finger at the defence or individual players, when it is a broader issue about how the team is set up. I'm not saying the setup was wrong at the start, just that Leicester took advantage of it.

 

[Para1140]

I've only been to the New Den but knew we'd arrived in the area when I spotted a kid no older than 8 giving us the finger as the coach drove past. Lovely bit of the world.

I saw the same at Middlesborough two seasons ago. Leaving the ground there was a lad no older than ten outside the away gate as we came out fag in his mouth giving us all the wnker sign as we came out

 

[David O'Day]

hahaha really?

Yep, can't call a Nazi a Nazi these days on here

 

[Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon]

I saw the same at Middlesborough two seasons ago. Leaving the ground there was a lad no older than ten outside the away gate as we came out fag in his mouth giving us all the wnker sign as we came out

There's a beautiful mural near their ground by a local artist that reads 'Sam Boyle is a crackhead '. Lovely stuff.

 

[David O'Day]

There's a beautiful mural near their ground by a local artist that reads 'Sam Boyle is a crackhead '. Lovely stuff.

The football league is full of grounds in some right shitholes, if we were still at HR other teams forums would be full of people sayingthe same about Hillfields and Stoke.

PL seems more middle class in places though. Not all though Anfield is in a hell hole.

 

[Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon]

The football league is full of grounds in some right shitholes, if we were still at HR other teams forums would be full of people sayingthe same about Hillfields and Stoke.

PL seems more middle class in places though. Not all though Anfield is in a hell hole.

Absolutely, Norwich was about the nicest surrounding area i remember visiting. Peterborough gave me Stalingrad vibes and West Brom is like a trip through Mordor.

 

[chiefdave]

I remember going there with my mate as two 17 year olds with Harry Shaw.

Does Harry Shaw still exist? Can't remember the last time I saw one of their coaches, used to be everywhere.

 

[Graham64]

Does Harry Shaw still exist? Can't remember the last time I saw one of their coaches, used to be everywhere.

Yes still got a little office in Bedworth. I did here somewhere the had moved base to Staffordshire no idea if it's true