Petition SISU to sell the club (1 Viewer)

Kingokings204 · Sep 20, 2016

4600 and rising so obviously 5000 will be hit.

If we could hit some big milestones it would be good. I.e get more signatures than oldham Saturday would be a good one and also beat 10k after that.

On the previous petition how many did we get? Could we beat that?

oucho · Sep 20, 2016

Nick said:
Because if I signed everything they emailed me I'd be doing it 24/7.

Well don't sign everything they send you - just sign this. Takes ten seconds. Don't you want SISU to feck off?

Kingokings204 · Sep 20, 2016

Blimey just checked and it got over 19k signatures the keep Cov in Cov petition. If we could beat that and get 20k that would be great.

https://petition.parliament.uk/archived/petitions/59884

Nick · Sep 20, 2016

ccfc92 said:
So you haven't signed it?

Yes, put your semi away.

oucho · Sep 20, 2016

Ikeep hearing about fan ownership but I just think that people haven't thought it through. The problem is that it's not a couple of thousand fans paying £20 a year.
Either we need some millionaire backers who will fund the losses or we expect let's say 2.5k members which is optimistic given trust membership which is £1 full stop.
The club loses £2m per year (no, we are not sustainable) so that means each member has to provide 50k PER YEAR to keep us going. As we lose so much cash we'd need 100,000 people putting in £20 a year. Dream on.

Let's face it; we need people with deep pockets. Joy has deep pockets herself but seems her arms are shrinking.

Kingokings204 · Sep 20, 2016

Nick said:
Yes, put your semi away.

Prove it?

oucho · Sep 20, 2016

Nick said:
Yes, put your semi away.

Wait, yes you have or yes you haven't ???

Nick · Sep 20, 2016

Kingokings204 said:
Prove it?

It might be a full, it's a bit chilly tonight so don't quote me!

Kingokings204 · Sep 20, 2016

Nick said:
It might be a full, it's a bit chilly tonight so don't quote me!

I meant prove you signed the petition. We will just have to take your word for it

Nick · Sep 20, 2016

oucho said:
Wait, yes you have or yes you haven't ???

I said about 4 or 5 hours ago I had?

Nick · Sep 20, 2016

Kingokings204 said:
I meant prove you signed the petition. We will just have to take your word for it

Yes, they ask you to donate some money to promote it. Cheeky bastards.
Then it emailed me telling about a victory on tampon tax.

Nathccfc · Sep 20, 2016

Kingokings204 said:
Not really. We first need to know what sisu want as someone said earlier you can't make an offer if it's not for sale as such. Even then we as fans aren't sustainable long term especially.

What we need is to find out how much they want and on what Terms?

I got told they are after 60 million for the club, as they went to recoup the investment they put in. There is people interested in the club but not for that sort of money

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Kingokings204 · Sep 20, 2016

Nick said:
Yes, they ask you to donate some money to promote it. Cheeky bastards.
Then it emailed me telling about a victory on tampon tax.

Bloody hell

Kingokings204 · Sep 20, 2016

Nathccfc said:
I got told they are after 60 million for the club, as they went to recoup the investment they put in. There is people interested in the club but not for that sort of money

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They surely can't be asking for 60 million? That can't be right?

Nick · Sep 20, 2016

Kingokings204 said:
Bloody hell

And Ben Rattray can't wait to see the change I can create.

Johnnythespider · Sep 20, 2016

Nathccfc said:
I got told they are after 60 million for the club, as they went to recoup the investment they put in. There is people interested in the club but not for that sort of money

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Who by ?

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Nick · Sep 20, 2016

Oh and to prove I signed the last one (think it was a trust one), I got a petition from a man called John this morning.

Nick,

I am a Ugandan gay man who hoped Britain would save me from the persecution I suffered in Uganda. But the UK government is preparing to deport me. I fear I will be tortured, imprisoned, and even killed because of my sexuality and my campaigning for LGBTI rights.

Yesterday it was:

Giving Water to Thirsty Pigs Shouldn't be a Crime!

Nick,

On June 22, 2015, Anita Krajnc gave water to pigs in a truck headed to a nearby slaughterhouse. In return for showing compassion towards thirsty animals, she was charged with "criminal mischief." She is now on trial and could face up to six months in jail.

I know it is bad, but they are so random

Captain Caveman · Sep 20, 2016

oucho said:
Ikeep hearing about fan ownership but I just think that people haven't thought it through. The problem is that it's not a couple of thousand fans paying £20 a year.
Either we need some millionaire backers who will fund the losses or we expect let's say 2.5k members which is optimistic given trust membership which is £1 full stop.
The club loses £2m per year (no, we are not sustainable) so that means each member has to provide 50k PER YEAR to keep us going. As we lose so much cash we'd need 100,000 people putting in £20 a year. Dream on.

Let's face it; we need people with deep pockets. Joy has deep pockets herself but seems her arms are

oucho said:

Ikeep hearing about fan ownership but I just think that people haven't thought it through. The problem is that it's not a couple of thousand fans paying £20 a year.
Either we need some millionaire backers who will fund the losses or we expect let's say 2.5k members which is optimistic given trust membership which is £1 full stop.
The club loses £2m per year (no, we are not sustainable) so that means each member has to provide 50k PER YEAR to keep us going. As we lose so much cash we'd need 100,000 people putting in £20 a year. Dream on.

Let's face it; we need people with deep pockets. Joy has deep pockets herself but seems her arms are shrinking.

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Kingokings204 said:
Not really. We first need to know what sisu want as someone said earlier you can't make an offer if it's not for sale as such. Even then we as fans aren't sustainable long term especially.

What we need is to find out how much they want and on what Terms?

Isn't Portsmouth FC owned by a fan's trust?

AFCCOVENTRY · Sep 20, 2016

Nearly hitting 5k signatures.

chiefdave · Sep 20, 2016

Nathccfc said:
There is people interested in the club

Who has expressed an interest?

Deleted member 5849 · Sep 20, 2016

chiefdave said:
Who has expressed an interest?

tbf I'd take it at the right price.

idm1975 · Sep 20, 2016

Nick said:
Yes, they ask you to donate some money to promote it. Cheeky bastards.
Then it emailed me telling about a victory on tampon tax.

All is good in the world then, if you had never signed you would have never known about such a great victory

chiefdave · Sep 20, 2016

Captain Caveman said:
Isn't Portsmouth FC owned by a fan's trust?

In a word no. Fans purchased, for £1K a piece, shares in Portsmouth Supporters Trust. However share is a bit misleading as you can't sell them and they basically have no value, to all intents and purposes it was a £1K donation.
The PST then used that money to buy a minority share in the football club.

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Sep 20, 2016

stupot07 said:
Signed. Just wished the CT had taken more a proactive role in protesting for saving the academy and stopping the sale of acl to wasps.

Will probably make no difference.

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I suspect the reason they didn't is because the council told them not to.

AFCCOVENTRY · Sep 20, 2016

Over 5k now

Gosford Green · Sep 20, 2016

I've signed it.
The telegraph whips up a peasants revolt, what's took them so long to state the obvious.

Any more on Becchio or however it's spelt ?

chiefdave · Sep 21, 2016

AFCCOVENTRY said:
Over 5k now

While I agree that everyone should sign what is the plan? Lets say it gets 100K signatures and Simon hires a van to drive down to London and present it to SISU. What then?

I can see them chucking it straight in the recycling bin. Doesn't there need to be more than 'SISU out' or 'sell the club'?

Present them with a viable way forward.

martcov · Sep 21, 2016

chiefdave said:
While I agree that everyone should sign what is the plan? Lets say it gets 100K signatures and Simon hires a van to drive down to London and present it to SISU. What then?

I can see them chucking it straight in the recycling bin. Doesn't there need to be more than 'SISU out' or 'sell the club'?

Present them with a viable way forward.

I suspect that interested parties are trying the opposite tactic. Making it as unviable as possible to stay.

Otis · Sep 21, 2016

oucho said:
I've signed it too. Have you? If not, why not?

Okay, okay, Lord Kitchener!!

Otis · Sep 21, 2016

Nathccfc said:
I got told they are after 60 million for the club, as they went to recoup the investment they put in. There is people interested in the club but not for that sort of money

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Johnnythespider said:
Who by ?

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The voices in his head?

Otis · Sep 21, 2016

Nick said:
Oh and to prove I signed the last one (think it was a trust one), I got a petition from a man called John this morning.

Yesterday it was:

I know it is bad, but they are so random

Not being funny, Nick, but you sign it and then the very first email you get from them after, you simply press unsubscribe from all and it's job done.

It's a 20 second job.

covmark · Sep 21, 2016

What is this place coming to when people are asked to prove that they've signed a fucking petition.

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Otis · Sep 21, 2016

covmark said:
What is this place coming to when people are asked to prove that they've signed a fucking petition.

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Is that an admission that you haven't?

I was eleven in 87 · Sep 21, 2016

Signed.

covmark · Sep 21, 2016

Otis said:
Is that an admission that you haven't?

Haha, no, I have. Would you like me to prove it?

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