Over hyped when placing him in the same breath as Messi, Ronaldo and the Zidane's of the world very much so.
I see some people have apologised for the player they thought was overhyped, so i think when I mention my player who I believe is overhyped I might need to go into hiding for a few years
The CCFC player who I think is massively overhyped is Steve Ogrizovic. I personally think that many people's view on him is somewhat clouded by sentiment of the number of games he played, when he never really had anyone decent pushing him, until Magnus Hedman came along, and then within 4 months of Hedman's arrival, Ogrizovic was relegated to the bench. I keep watching the highlights of the Cup Final on YouTube and can't help but feel that we won that match despite Ogrizovic (flapping at crosses, have the ball away to Tottenham to nearly score a third), rather than because of him instilling confidence in a big match...something you'd want your so called 'big' players to do.
Also for CCFC Paul Williams...couldn't stand him and thought he was an accident waiting to happen.
Other teams: Joe Hart (faced 5 shots at Euro 2016 apparently and let in 4 goals), and Adnan Januzaj
Ogrizovic despite being 38 played far more games than Hedman in the 97 98 season - hedman hardly played a game once he left this club.
That is a valid point, Grendel, however would that have been the case had Hedman not injured his ankle that season? The biggest cheer at Highfield Road in that awful 0-0 draw against Wimbledon that season was for Hedman's return to the first team
I'm not sure anyone has compared him to any if them have they? He's the best goal scorer in the history of football for England. Fact.
Rooney at his peak wasn't overhyped.
His problem is people expect and compare him to his younger self, he isn't as good a player now as he was between the ages of 18-25 and as a result gets labelled as overrated and overhyped.
Agree. Lallana is useless. Can't score or assist.Lallana
And yet Leeds fans were devastated when he joined us and Liverpool fansGary McAllister - he's even more hyped retrospectively.
Every manager he ever had.Who was hyping Heskey?
Yes he is, in an era of endless pointless friendlys against so called lesser teams,I'm not sure anyone has compared him to any if them have they? He's the best goal scorer in the history of football for England. Fact.
I think that says more about English football than it does about Rooneys talent.So the top scorer in the history of football for his country is over rated.
Priceless.
Yes he is, in an era of endless pointless friendlys against so called lesser teams,
incidentally friendlys don't count for your club, they shouldn't for country either.
And you do have to remember that some of the quality of opposition in the Charlton era was of a very low standard.Rooney scored 14 of his goals in friendlies Bobby charlton scored 32 in friendlies.
Rooney scored 14 of his goals in friendlies Bobby charlton scored 32 in friendlies.
So are you saying Rooney is better than Charlton was, in Charlton day they playedAnd you do have to remember that some of the quality of opposition in the Charlton era was of a very low standard.
England used to regularly thrash the smaller teams 4, 5 or 6 nil.
I'll think you'll find we tend to play our friendlies against the bigger nations. Germany, Spain and Holland the most recent ones. We rarely play lesser nations in friendlies.Yes he is, in an era of endless pointless friendlys against so called lesser teams,
incidentally friendlys don't count for your club, they shouldn't for country either.
Jimmy greaves was a freak of Football tho, totally different kettle of fish and not really a great comparison .The OP was about over hyped players, not really about how good Rooney record is for England. For me does not make him the best or not over hyped because of his goals. If he is thought of as the best because of this record, i would ask you to look at Jimmy Greaves record 57 caps 44 goals, he also played 20 odd times for the under 23 and got 12. It took Rooney 100 games to get 44 goals. So for me he is a player who has a record but that does not mean he is not over rated. A decent player who through no fault of his own has become better on paper than player.
They wouldn't pick him if they didn't rate him, but I don't remember Heskey getting much more than 'he's surprisingly decent' since he left Leicester.Every manager he ever had.
I think that says more about English football than it does about Rooneys talent.
Many people in the past have said he is one of the best players in the world, and I couldn't disagree more. He's one of the highest paid players in the world and I don't think he's worth that (in a footballing sense, probably is economically).
Just my opinion of course
If you look at what is being said before the goal scoring record is being used as why you cant say he is being over hyped, so because of it then you compare goalscorers!!!. If like i said before you are labeled as the best player in your country then Messi and Ronaldo are what you judge against. In your opinion Rooney is being unfairly Judged and not over hyped, that's fine its an opinion that can't be proved or not proved either way. In my opinion he has not any great attributes but has a few good one's, decent player but gets a lot of news and pressure when really his talent is limited.
The same will happen to Ross Barkley and already happened to Jack Rodwell , Jack Wilkshere and many more will come the media will not stop bringing the wonder kids out and up to knock them down when in reality kicks in. They are decent players but not much more than that, to be a top player you have to perform over a length of time and keep producing when all is expected of you, not just when you are young.
Rooney was miles ahead of all those players at there respective ages, they are not even in the same conversation as Rooney.
Yet, in my experience as a Cov fan he was good for one season out of 3 in his first spell albeit with an injury lay off. He was past it a bit in his second spell.And yet Leeds fans were devastated when he joined us and Liverpool fans
couldn't get enough of him in a season they snapped up 4 trophies.
I just think they is better players paid less with a lot less press
Although i agree with Rooney being ahead at the same age the problem is Barkley was tagged as the new Rooney so place in the same conversation. The Media will build them up placing expectation, hype just to knock them down.
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