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O'Hare is a Burden on the Team (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Feb 17, 2022
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letsallsingtogether

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  • Feb 21, 2022
  • #141
cc84cov said:
Shipley on the other hand is like playing with 10 men unless it’s transfer window time then he’s up for it
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Is that the Shipley who is Coventrys highest scoring Midfielder in over 10 Years?
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Feb 21, 2022
  • #142
letsallsingtogether said:
Is that the Shipley who is Coventrys highest scoring Midfielder in over 10 Years?
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That's quite an interesting stat - first time I've heard that referred to, and makes sense when you consider our history over that time.A slump, followed by a rise (with most of his goals as we rose from the 'trough period' I suspect)
 
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Garryb80

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  • Feb 21, 2022
  • #143
letsallsingtogether said:
Is that the Shipley who is Coventrys highest scoring Midfielder in over 10 Years?
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That isn't difficult is it?
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Feb 21, 2022
  • #144
fernandopartridge said:
Hamer is a holding midfielder
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Thought about this before, but he is a sort of holding midfielder who likes to wander a lot !!
 
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procdoc

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 21, 2022
  • #145
Christ I’m so glad some of you don’t pick the team or buy and sell the players!
 
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cc84cov

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  • Feb 21, 2022
  • #146
fernandopartridge said:
Hamer is a holding midfielder
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Him and sheaf have been playing there in a 2 no ?
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 21, 2022
  • #147
cc84cov said:
Him and sheaf have been playing there in a 2 no ?
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No
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 21, 2022
  • #148
cc84cov said:
Him and sheaf have been playing there in a 2 no ?
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I would say Sheaf is more the holding midfielder and Hamer is more a ball-playing midfielder. He's given a bit more freedom and even though he does play next to Sheaf I think he'd be alright playing slightly further forward. Maybe use that passing to create chances, plus he might get the chance to shoot a bit more.
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 22, 2022
  • #149
Garryb80 said:
That isn't difficult is it?
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It is if your shit.
 

Otis

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  • Feb 22, 2022
  • #150
letsallsingtogether said:
It is if your shit.
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...is brown?
 
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Garryb80

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  • Feb 22, 2022
  • #151
letsallsingtogether said:
It is if your shit.
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Scoring more than 1 currently gives you that accolade
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Feb 22, 2022
  • #152
Hamer is a box to box midfielder and Sheaf is a deep lying playmaker
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 22, 2022
  • #153
Liquid Gold said:
Hamer is a box to box midfielder and Sheaf is a deep lying playmaker
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Set to defend or support?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 22, 2022
  • #154
While I still don't think burden, this is unforgivable to pass it along the floor straight at the keeper.



Maatsen has offered much more in 2 games at AM.

People are blinded by the fouls won stats that are pretty much meaningless.

He could do with a break, the issue is we have nobody to put in. Not even Bright.



That statistic is dire.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 22, 2022
  • #155
So if I have this right - O’Hare is now a liability because after weaving through two or three defenders out of nowhere, he didn’t subsequently score the goal of the season?

It was an easy chance to miss after an incredible piece of skill - do people really get that upset by it?
 
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Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 22, 2022
  • #156
Played well 0verall
 
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SheafIsGod

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 22, 2022
  • #157
But he creates soooooo many chances for everyone else!

3% shot conversion
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 22, 2022
  • #158
SBT said:
So if I have this right - O’Hare is now a liability because after weaving through two or three defenders out of nowhere, he didn’t subsequently score the goal of the season?

It was an easy chance to miss after an incredible piece of skill - do people really get that upset by it?
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No, he has missed sitters throughout his time with us. It isn't a one-off occurrence,

It wouldn't have been goal of the season, it was a simple finish into the corner. Good skill beforehand but it's absolutely pointless when passing it back to the keeper. Little bits of skill are absolutely pointless when you do nothing with it.

He is being praised for running alongside Hamer when he set Gyo up, that is the levels we are working at because it's O'Hare. Grendel will no doubt be along to say that O'Hare running there meant the goalie was put off so Gyo wouldn't have scored otherwise so he made the goal.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Feb 22, 2022
  • #159
SBT said:
So if I have this right - O’Hare is now a liability because after weaving through two or three defenders out of nowhere, he didn’t subsequently score the goal of the season?

It was an easy chance to miss after an incredible piece of skill - do people really get that upset by it?
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It was not easy to miss. I’m pretty sure the majority on here would score from that position
 
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covcity4life

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  • Feb 22, 2022
  • #160
Rather have a player that can out skill 2 players before missing !
 
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SBT

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  • Feb 22, 2022
  • #161
Ccfcisparks said:
It was not easy to miss. I’m pretty sure the majority on here would score from that position
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I meant it was an easy chance, which he went on to miss.

But how many Championship players would have even created the chance in the first place? Let alone fucking internet randos.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 22, 2022
  • #162
covcity4life said:
Rather have a player that can out skill 2 players before missing !
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Rather have a player that just puts the ball in the corner when they get a chance to be honest.
 

covcity4life

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  • Feb 22, 2022
  • #163
Nick said:
Rather have a player that just puts the ball in the corner when they get a chance to be honest.
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He is saving it for playoff final

One. Serious note I don't understand why he doesn't just smash the ball like he did for his goal Vs reading last season at close range
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 22, 2022
  • #164
SBT said:
I meant it was an easy chance, which he went on to miss.

But how many Championship players would have even created the chance in the first place? Let alone fucking internet randos.
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It isn't just that one, it's more weeks than not.

Think back to some of those where the keeper has been miles off their line with him just outside the box and he doesn't get the ball off the ground and just plays it along the floor back to them.

It isn't a one time thing, even in that position I didn't get excited that he was going to score. Literally anybody else I would be getting ready to celebrate it.

Yeah, he presses really well and has an amazing engine but that's all he offers us in the majority of games.

Not all his fault as we really should have somebody else who can slot in to give him a rest.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 22, 2022
  • #165
Nick said:
Rather have a player that just puts the ball in the corner when they get a chance to be honest.
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Who else on our team creates that chance tonight? Did Fabio Tavares do it against Solihull U23s or something?
 

larry_david

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 22, 2022
  • #166
This is o hare in a nutshell. If you wanted to show anyone who'd never seen him player before exactly the kind of player he is. Show them that clip. Excitement, close control, skill, trickery, and then....that
 
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fatso

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 22, 2022
  • #167
SBT said:
So if I have this right - O’Hare is now a liability because after weaving through two or three defenders out of nowhere, he didn’t subsequently score the goal of the season?

It was an easy chance to miss after an incredible piece of skill - do people really get that upset by it?
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Everything he did before the shot was wasted, he would of been better off letting the ball go out for a goal kick!

It's not as if it's the first time it's happened.
He's actually a very good player, but he's the worst finisher in the squad, the stats prove it. He needs a rest, but unfortunately we don't have anyone who can be dropped in there, but I'm sure that will be rectified next season.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 22, 2022
  • #168
SBT said:
Who else on our team creates that chance tonight? Did Fabio Tavares do it against Solihull U23s or something?
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Gyo, he also scores it.

It's desperate the lengths some want to go to defend him. "Wins the most fouls in the league though".

He won us a throw-in, hailed as brilliant ffs.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 22, 2022
  • #169
SBT said:
So if I have this right - O’Hare is now a liability because after weaving through two or three defenders out of nowhere, he didn’t subsequently score the goal of the season?

It was an easy chance to miss after an incredible piece of skill - do people really get that upset by it?
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Nick hates him
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 22, 2022
  • #170
larry_david said:
This is o hare in a nutshell. If you wanted to show anyone who'd never seen him player before exactly the kind of player he is. Show them that clip. Excitement, close control, skill, trickery, and then....that
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This is why you have pundits and opposition fans going mad for him. After you see those misses most weeks it's not the same as watching him for one game or a clip online.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 22, 2022
  • #171
Nick said:
Gyo, he also scores it.

It's desperate the lengths some want to go to defend him. "Wins the most fouls in the league though".

He won us a throw-in, hailed as brilliant ffs.
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Gyo, the guy who you said may as well be sitting in the stands tonight? (Before he scored the winner, of course)

Pretend all you like that O’Hare is a net negative for this team, thankfully most of our fans can appreciate the good work he puts in to get us where we are.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 22, 2022
  • #172
larry_david said:
This is o hare in a nutshell. If you wanted to show anyone who'd never seen him player before exactly the kind of player he is. Show them that clip. Excitement, close control, skill, trickery, and then....that
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Yeah let’s get Kelly back asap
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 22, 2022
  • #173
Grendel said:
Nick hates him
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Not really, it's just when you seem to go over the top it means people point things like this out in return.

It was an embarrassing miss, one of many this season.
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 22, 2022
  • #174
Nick said:
It isn't just that one, it's more weeks than not.

Think back to some of those where the keeper has been miles off their line with him just outside the box and he doesn't get the ball off the ground and just plays it along the floor back to them.

It isn't a one time thing, even in that position I didn't get excited that he was going to score. Literally anybody else I would be getting ready to celebrate it.

Yeah, he presses really well and has an amazing engine but that's all he offers us in the majority of games.

Not all his fault as we really should have somebody else who can slot in to give him a rest.
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Honestly your vendetta is pathetic, he offers a lot more than just running and pressing.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 22, 2022
  • #175
SBT said:
Gyo, the guy who you said may as well be sitting in the stands tonight? (Before he scored the winner, of course)

Pretend all you like that O’Hare is a net negative for this team, thankfully most of our fans can appreciate the good work he puts in to get us where we are.
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Yeah he ran alongside Hamer.

Yep, Gyo who wasn't really having the best game with much involvement with most people also agreed with.

Still, you can obsess over a young lad from the U23's and slate him.
 
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