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Samo

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,541
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
I'm not so confident. I think Robins is fully aware of the constraints he's under and within reason will choose to stay regardless.
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He will run out of patience at some point if he's not being backed.
 
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steve cooper

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,542
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
I'm not so confident. I think Robins is fully aware of the constraints he's under and within reason will choose to stay regardless.
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He's in a no lose situation for the coming season to a certain extent. If we do well it adds to his status, if we don't he could just say he was constrained by lack of budget and everyone would believe it.
 
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SkyBlueMatt

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,543


A fee for O'Hare apparently hasn't been even agreed yet. Now we're talking about Robins resigning because he's not getting any of the funds that don't exist.

It is bat sh*t crazy on here sometimes.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,544
Again, Robins has been walking every season so far.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,545
Samo said:
He will run out of patience at some point if he's not being backed.
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As I said...within reason.

Hypothetically if players are continually sold and monies aren't reinvested back into the playing budget then there's no point being in the Championship anyway as regardless who's the manager relegation is inevitable.
 
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Skyblueweeman

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,546
Samo said:
He will run out of patience at some point if he's not being backed.
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Yeah but according to a few on here, the owners net input into transfers is zero and we've worked on player sales to fund new players.

If that's the case, he's not been backed for the last 5 years but is still here??
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,547
Nick said:
Again, Robins has been walking every season so far.
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I thought he was getting a taxi?
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,548
Samo said:
He will run out of patience at some point if he's not being backed.
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Again, the same as every year.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,549
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
I think he's Cypriot so he obviously won't go back there but I'd imagine he'd have plenty of offers in the Championship as the season progressed and managers dropped off or perhaps in Europe.
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Pretty sure he's Spanish

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robbiekeane

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,550
shmmeee said:
What people want is a sustainable club. At this level even the best run club will lose millions each season without player sales. To get those player sales you need players. If a shop can’t afford to buy stock it doesn’t stay open very long.

The vision sold to us is a team making the most of its means through good scouting and coaching and progressing players. That vision requires a small amount of investment each season that is paid back once we sell our better players.

IIRC Robins is pretty much net zero in terms of transfer spending. He’s always been allowed to reinvest what he makes.
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Yes, but in the championship with significantly higher wages he’s not going to get all of it back is he. This isn’t FIFA.

They probably need to budget for X amount a year to cover running costs and wages etc.

We didn’t sell anybody significant last summer. This summer we need to sell someone and won’t get all of the money back to reinvest. That is literally a sustainable model as you describe it.

I wish we had an owner who was a fan and would pump £20m extra in every year and never gets bored as much as most do. But let’s not pretend it’s “investment”.
 
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steve cooper

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,551
He's got sky blue blood in his veins, he won't resign
 
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mr_monkey

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,552
SkyBlueMatt said:


A fee for O'Hare apparently hasn't been even agreed yet. Now we're talking about Robins resigning because he's not getting any of the funds that don't exist.

It is bat sh*t crazy on here sometimes.
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It's odd isn't it, we get good news today that nothing has been agreed yet the same people who were slagging off the club at the weekend and believing all the nonsense are now trying to spin this into a negative
 

robbiekeane

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,553
Samo said:
He will run out of patience at some point if he's not being backed.
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I really hope he doesn’t read this message board and realise the extent to which he’s not being backed
 
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robbiekeane

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,554
SkyBlueMatt said:


A fee for O'Hare apparently hasn't been even agreed yet. Now we're talking about Robins resigning because he's not getting any of the funds that don't exist.

It is bat sh*t crazy on here sometimes.
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Nut jobs the fucking lot of them
 

Samo

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,555
Nick said:
Again, the same as every year.
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But its not the same every year is it?
The last 2 years we have spent million plus sums on players, this year we apparently can't manage a single outgoing fee without sales.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,556
TomRad85 said:
Pretty sure he's Spanish

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That’s what I thought, he did manage a team in Cyprus
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,557
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
I'd imagine so. Difficult to improve on last season when two of your best players have been sold and little has been made available for him this summer. That certainly would've been a big factor in him choosing to resign.
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robbiekeane said:
Yes, but in the championship with significantly higher wages he’s not going to get all of it back is he. This isn’t FIFA.

They probably need to budget for X amount a year to cover running costs and wages etc.

We didn’t sell anybody significant last summer. This summer we need to sell someone and won’t get all of the money back to reinvest. That is literally a sustainable model as you describe it.

I wish we had an owner who was a fan and would pump £20m extra in every year and never gets bored as much as most do. But let’s not pretend it’s “investment”.
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Who is on about £20m a year from the owners? Who is this person you’re arguing with?

If your business mode is developing young players for profit then yes signing young players is investment.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,558
Samo said:
But its not the same every year is it?
The last 2 years we have spent million plus sums on players, this year we apparently can't manage a single outgoing fee without sales.
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We have literally already made one.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,559
TomRad85 said:
Pretty sure he's Spanish

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You could be right. I remember him managing/coaching in a non-descript league so I put two and two together.
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,560
mark82 said:
Is Cornet leaving them a done deal / close? Not really been following that one.
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Looks like Fulham also in for Cornet but only on loan as well.
 

Samo

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,561
Nick said:
We have literally already made one.
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Are you referring to the 'undisclosed' for Palmer from Bristol who couldn't wait to get rid of him?
 
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steve cooper

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,562
We've signed 3 new players, and apparently a LWB incoming, and only lost 2 so far
 

Nick

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,563
Samo said:
Are you referring to the 'undisclosed' for Palmer from Bristol who couldn't wait to get of him?
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Oh I thought you just meant a fee, I didn't know you would be moving the goalposts.

Doesn't matter if people want to get rid of things, according to some the club can't wait to get rid of O'Hare so does that mean it will be free?
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,564
Nick said:
Oh I thought you just meant a fee, I didn't know you would be moving the goalposts.

Doesn't matter if people want to get rid of things, according to some the club can't wait to get rid of O'Hare so does that mean it will be free?
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I don’t think we know the actual details for Palmer, heard undisclosed and free and free but we’re taking on his £20k/week ages for a year.
 

Samo

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,565
Nick said:
Oh I thought you just meant a fee, I didn't know you would be moving the goalposts.

Doesn't matter if people want to get rid of things, according to some the club can't wait to get rid of O'Hare so does that mean it will be free?
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Nick, its not an attractive trait when you can never be wrong. How did I change the goalposts, please read back.
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,566
It’sabatch87 said:
Imagine if he didn’t go, Every female Cov fan will want his babies!!
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They’ll have wait in line behind me then
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,567
shmmeee said:
I don’t think we know the actual details for Palmer, heard undisclosed and free and free but we’re taking on his £20k/week ages for a year.
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That’s what I asked the Bristol City fan who posted it, whether it was hearsay or said at a fans forum. If we are taking on 20k a week then maybe he is the O’Hare replacement
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,568
Samo said:
Nick, its not an attractive trait when you can never be wrong. How did I change the goalposts, please read back.
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You said we couldn't manage a single outgoing fee.

I gave you an example, then it doesn't count because they wanted rid of him and it was undisclosed.

Simple thing is, we have managed an outgoing fee already this pre-season. Just because it doesn't suit your narrative it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,569
It’sabatch87 said:
Imagine if he didn’t go, Every female Cov fan will want his babies!!
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Speak for yourself Mrs BSB wants Sky Blue Sam.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,570
Nick said:
Oh I thought you just meant a fee, I didn't know you would be moving the goalposts.

Doesn't matter if people want to get rid of things, according to some the club can't wait to get rid of O'Hare so does that mean it will be free?
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Pretty pedantic point to use though.

It's clear what he meant. Any fee paid would've been nominal at best.
 
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Samo

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,571
Nick said:
You said we couldn't manage a single outgoing fee.

I gave you an example, then it doesn't count because they wanted rid of him and it was undisclosed.
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Oh please! It was his fucking bus fare!
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,572
SlowerThanPlatt said:
That’s what I asked the Bristol City fan who posted it, whether it was hearsay or said at a fans forum. If we are taking on 20k a week then maybe he is the O’Hare replacement
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Or we’ve seen it as a £500k fee, depends what he’s on next season if it’s true.
 

Nick

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,573
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Pretty pedantic point to use though.

It's clear what he meant. Any fee paid would've been nominal at best.
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How is it pedantic to point out we have paid a fee, to somebody saying we can't pay a fee to get themselves worked up that Robins is going to walk? (like people do every year).

People are actually making up scenarios now.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,574
Didn’t Robins meet with Joy right before he signed his new contract? I’m pretty sure he’s gone into this with his eyes open.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,575
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Didn’t Robins meet with Joy right before he signed his new contract? I’m pretty sure he’s gone into this with his eyes open.
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I'd agree with that. She does seem to be impressively persuasive though - remember how excited Pressley was when he joined... and we then went into admin and sodded off to Northampton.
 
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