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shmmeee

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  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #141
Liquid Gold said:
Would we be playing in Cov now if Sisu hadn't made the complaint? - Probably
Would we be playing in Cov now if Wasps hadn't insisted on indemnity? - Probably

Can Sisu withdraw the complaint? - No
Can Wasps withdraw the indemnity? - Yes

Hate Sisu as much as you like but our route back to Cov is through Wasps not Sisu.
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Wasps should withdraw the indemnity, but read between the lines on both sides and it’s clear that’s not the only issue. As I say I’d guess Wasps want future legals stopped and Sisu are refusing. Why Wasps gave them the PR win of the indemnity is beyond me. Best guess is they were saying “either drop it or indemnify is so we can get finance”.

If you think the indemnity is all that’s holding up negotiations you are beyond credulous.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #142
shmmeee said:
Wasps should withdraw the indemnity, but read between the lines on both sides and it’s clear that’s not the only issue. As I say I’d guess Wasps want future legals stopped and Sisu are refusing. Why Wasps gave them the PR win of the indemnity is beyond me. Best guess is they were saying “either drop it or indemnify is so we can get finance”.

If you think the indemnity is all that’s holding up negotiations you are beyond credulous.
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So lets work on getting the indemnity withdrawn and challenge the next hurdle when it comes up. Trying to work out what the bigger picture answer is has got us the square root of fuck all so far.

What is your suggestion?
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #143
Liquid Gold said:
So lets work on getting the indemnity withdrawn and challenge the next hurdle when it comes up. Trying to work out what the bigger picture answer is has got us the square root of fuck all so far.

What is your suggestion?
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100% agree. But what we should be doing wasn’t what was being discussed.

My suggestion is the same as it’s been for years: there’s not much we can actually do, it’s down to two hedge funds to grow up. Enjoy the football.
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #144
shmmeee said:
100% agree. But what we should be doing wasn’t what was being discussed.

My suggestion is the same as it’s been for years: there’s not much we can actually do, it’s down to two hedge funds to grow up. Enjoy the football.
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Wasps want to use the opportunity to get a new owner whose already agreed a 10 year deal at the Ricoh
 
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Garryb80

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #145
shmmeee said:
Wasps should withdraw the indemnity, but read between the lines on both sides and it’s clear that’s not the only issue. As I say I’d guess Wasps want future legals stopped and Sisu are refusing. Why Wasps gave them the PR win of the indemnity is beyond me. Best guess is they were saying “either drop it or indemnify is so we can get finance”.

If you think the indemnity is all that’s holding up negotiations you are beyond credulous.
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City sent a letter confirming no further legals. What more do they want?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #146
Grendel said:
Wasps want to use the opportunity to get a new owner whose already agreed a 10 year deal at the Ricoh
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Yeah but thats all just a conspiracy isn't it. Regardless of Wasps being involved with the Hoffman consortium causing Overson to leave.

Same as the whole Haskell thing was made up.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #147
shmmeee said:
Wasps should withdraw the indemnity, but read between the lines on both sides and it’s clear that’s not the only issue. As I say I’d guess Wasps want future legals stopped and Sisu are refusing. Why Wasps gave them the PR win of the indemnity is beyond me. Best guess is they were saying “either drop it or indemnify is so we can get finance”.

If you think the indemnity is all that’s holding up negotiations you are beyond credulous.
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Erm, it was agreed they would be stopped?

You are hazarding wrong guesses about things that actually happened yet you still claim conspiracies to everything?
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #148
shmmeee said:
100% agree. But what we should be doing wasn’t what was being discussed.

My suggestion is the same as it’s been for years: there’s not much we can actually do, it’s down to two hedge funds to grow up. Enjoy the football.
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Again, if you believe that stop getting involved in these threads.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #149
Grendel said:
Wasps want to use the opportunity to get a new owner whose already agreed a 10 year deal at the Ricoh
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And how will they force a sale exactly?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #150
Nick said:
Erm, it was agreed they would be stopped?

You are hazarding wrong guesses about things that actually happened yet you still claim conspiracies to everything?
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Then why won’t Sisu ask for it to be forgotten? Why did they complain about their legal rights? And why did they put the complaint in on the first place?

Do you have proof my guesses are wrong or is that just your guess?

I’ll ask again, what’s your hypothesis? Are you on Grendels “they want new owners” theory? How would that work exactly?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #151
shmmeee said:
And how will they force a sale exactly?
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Maybe they could put a condition on doing a deal that they know would never happen to try and force them to give the club up.

Have a look back through the timeline.

You had people close to them getting themselves excited that the club wouldn't be able to file accounts because of it.

Then it was the shouting at the EFL to not allow a move / remove the golden share.

As I pointed out months ago, not much different to the Haskell scenario.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #152
Liquid Gold said:
Again, if you believe that stop getting involved in these threads.
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No. Maybe man up and accept viewpoints that don’t exactly match yours. They won’t kill you.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #153
Nick said:
Maybe they could put a condition on doing a deal that they know would never happen to try and force them to give the club up.

Have a look back through the timeline.

You had people close to them getting themselves excited that the club wouldn't be able to file accounts because of it.

Then it was the shouting at the EFL to not allow a move / remove the golden share.

As I pointed out months ago, not much different to the Haskell scenario.
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How did the Haskell scenario work out? Do we have new owners? Why would Joy sell?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #154
shmmeee said:
Then why won’t Sisu ask for it to be forgotten? Why did they complain about their legal rights? And why did they put the complaint in on the first place?

Do you have proof my guesses are wrong or is that just your guess?

I’ll ask again, what’s your hypothesis? Are you on Grendels “they want new owners” theory? How would that work exactly?
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Because it can't be dropped. You do know that don't you?

Yes, both SISU and CCFC said there was an agreement for no future legals and Wasps obviously agreed as they were in talks in which they said that was a pre-requisite.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #155
shmmeee said:
How did the Haskell scenario work out? Do we have new owners? Why would Joy sell?
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It backfired, didn't it? You probably know more than most about that one.

Don't you find it strange that Wasps were working with Haskell's consortium? Is that just a conspiracy too?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #156
Nick said:
Because it can't be dropped. You do know that don't you?

Yes, both SISU and CCFC said there was an agreement for no future legals and Wasps obviously agreed as they were in talks in which they said that was a pre-requisite.
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If it can’t be dropped what’s the harm in asking? Nothing will happen right? Easy PR win for Sisu.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #157
Nick said:
It backfired, didn't it? You probably know more than most about that one.

Don't you find it strange that Wasps were working with Haskell's consortium? Is that just a conspiracy too?
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Do I find it strange that someone wanting to buy the club tried to forge a relationship with the owner of the only suitable stadium in the city? Not really. I find it stranger the actual owners are intent on burning all relationships TBH.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #158
shmmeee said:
If it can’t be dropped what’s the harm in asking? Nothing will happen right? Easy PR win for Sisu.
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Strange, both CJ and Linnell were the ones who came up with the "ask for it to be forgotten line" after they had spoken to Wasps. Both know full well it can't be dropped and wouldn't make a difference.

Again, your memory seems to be lacking half of each story all of the time and you miss out things that have actually happened.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #159
shmmeee said:
And how will they force a sale exactly?
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By what they are doing - in two years the club will not exist unless it moves back - it’s a pretty transparent strategy
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #160
shmmeee said:
No. Maybe man up and accept viewpoints that don’t exactly match yours. They won’t kill you.
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Ha! I think you're misreading me or trying to bait me. Either way, it isn't just the two hedge funds that need to grow up...
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #161
shmmeee said:


Do I find it strange that someone wanting to buy the club tried to forge a relationship with the owner of the only suitable stadium in the city? Not really. I find it stranger the actual owners are intent on burning all relationships TBH.
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You would think Overson would understand that though and not be pissed off and leave the consortium?

Again, you seem to keep ignoring certain facts to make theories up that have already actually happened differently yet you bang on about conspiracies all the time.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #162
Nick said:
Strange, both CJ and Linnell were the ones who came up with the "ask for it to be forgotten line" after they had spoken to Wasps. Both know full well it can't be dropped and wouldn't make a difference.

Again, your memory seems to be lacking half of each story all of the time and you miss out things that have actually happened.
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What’s strange about that? Everyone who has spoken to Wasps comes back with the answer Wasps are giving! Shocker!!

Answer the question, if it can’t be withdrawn why don’t Sisu just ask anyway? Ping the ball back to Wasps?

Go on, try and answer a straight question and not get sidetracked into personal attacks on people.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #163
Nick said:
You would think Overson would understand that though and not be pissed off and leave the consortium?

Again, you seem to keep ignoring certain facts to make theories up that have already actually happened differently yet you bang on about conspiracies all the time.
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Literally made guesses and labelled them as such, no theories. Don’t even know who Overson is.

And telling me, a literal random nobody, that I should know more than most about something is in fact a conspiracy theory. Hence the gif.

Side note: it’s hilarious how quiet you go when asked to answer a question and not spout bile at people.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #164
Nick said:
You would think Overson would understand that though and not be pissed off and leave the consortium?

Again, you seem to keep ignoring certain facts to make theories up that have already actually happened differently yet you bang on about conspiracies all the time.
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The Overson thing is really important to me. He's exactly the sort of person I'd want to be involved with the club so if it wasn't right to him I'm happy to say it wasn't right at all.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #165
shmmeee said:
What’s strange about that? Everyone who has spoken to Wasps comes back with the answer Wasps are giving! Shocker!!

Answer the question, if it can’t be withdrawn why don’t Sisu just ask anyway? Ping the ball back to Wasps?

Go on, try and answer a straight question and not get sidetracked into personal attacks on people.
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How do you want them to ask? Via the telegraph?

Where's the personal attack?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #166
shmmeee said:
Literally made guesses and labelled them as such, no theories. Don’t even know who Overson is.

And telling me, a literal random nobody, that I should know more than most about something is in fact a conspiracy theory. Hence the gif.
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He was the main backer in Hoffman’s gang and quit as he suggested Richardson was also involved
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #167
Millionaire claims he quit CCFC takeover bid because of Wasps
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #168
shmmeee said:
Literally made guesses and labelled them as such, no theories. Don’t even know who Overson is.

And telling me, a literal random nobody, that I should know more than most about something is in fact a conspiracy theory. Hence the gif.

Side note: it’s hilarious how quiet you go when asked to answer a question and not spout bile at people.
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You don't know who Overson is? It's like when you had no idea about the Butts stuff but told everybody it was a conspiracy. It's strange how you only ever seem to know little snippets of information when you get into things.

Well yeah, considering you had family who were deeply involved in the Haskell stuff you would have access to know more than a random man on the street. That's not a conspiracy, that's a fact.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #169
shmmeee said:
Literally made guesses and labelled them as such, no theories. Don’t even know who Overson is.

And telling me, a literal random nobody, that I should know more than most about something is in fact a conspiracy theory. Hence the gif.

Side note: it’s hilarious how quiet you go when asked to answer a question and not spout bile at people.
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You're very opinionated for someone who hasn't got the slightest clue about half the shit that has gone on.
shmmeee said:
you are beyond credulous.
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shmmeee said:
No. Maybe man up.
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shmmeee said:
not get sidetracked into personal attacks on people.
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Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #170
Liquid Gold said:
You're very opinionated for someone who hasn't got the slightest clue about half the shit that has gone on.
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I like how he says things are conspiracies even though they have actually happened and he "doesn't know" about them. It's very strange although not surprising.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #171
Liquid Gold said:
You're very opinionated for someone who hasn't got the slightest clue about half the shit that has gone on.



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Oh no! Opinions on the Internet!

Just read up on Overson, doesn’t really say anything does he? Very vague.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #172
Nick said:
I like how he says things are conspiracies even though they have actually happened and he "doesn't know" about them. It's very strange although not surprising.
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Yes very strange that someone hasn’t read everything you have. Almost like they’re different people! Must be something fishy happening. Not a conspiracy theory though. Just a theory, about other people hiding stuff, without proof.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #173
shmmeee said:
Oh no! Opinions on the Internet!

Just read up on Overson, doesn’t really say anything does he? Very vague.
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Haven't you been having a go at Dom on the politics thread for having opinions that are based on bullshit. Look in the mirror mate.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #174
shmmeee said:
Oh no! Opinions on the Internet!

Just read up on Overson, doesn’t really say anything does he? Very vague.
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“wasps were obviously involved so I wasn’t happy”
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #175
shmmeee said:
Oh no! Opinions on the Internet!

Just read up on Overson, doesn’t really say anything does he? Very vague.
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He says he left the consortium because Wasps were involved and he wasn't happy about it. A little bit more than "talks about somewhere to play".

As per usual though, you play it down because you are denying something that has happened by using some other made up scenario.
 
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