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wince

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  • Feb 17, 2020
  • #316
ccfcway said:
not having a go, I just don't get it.

I understand perhaps the drop off in attendance (ie, only going to 50% instead of 80%) but do you not feel like your missing out ?. Why don't you go to away games any more ?, surely they are just as far as they were last season ?

I've been to more this season already than last season (it's cost me a fortune), I just think we are onto something special with this team and manager and I want to be part of it after years of being served up rubbish.

Again, not having a go, as each to their own, but I just would like to understand.
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Fair question and easy one to answer, going to football is a habit , for years and years ,as soon as the fixtures came out I/we would arrange our lifes around them , family , parties ect , would all be around the fixtures , every Saturday , Tuesday I and more importantly everyone in my life would known where I would be, that all changed , the year we went to Northampton(decision made by non football people who just didn't understand football fans) , the bond the habit broken,, when we came back there were times especially night games when it would have been easy to stay away , but like I say , it was a habit , when the move to brum came about , habit already broken found I liked the money I got for work on Saturdays , because I wasn't there , it didn't hurt as much when we lost , likewise didn't get as much joy when we win , I posted today as I always in the past wondered how someone could go to Wembley one week then not go back for a year , sadly I have become one of them people(which I never ever thought I would) , tried to explain this but you know how it is , a lot of people jump down your throat and try to tell you what you are thinking or why you are doing something , people who have never met you, but it suits an agenda, if we are back in cov next year I will have a season ticket and hope to get the habit again ,and to answer your other question no I don't feel like I'm missing out , its toxic enough on here , yet alone at the grounds
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Feb 17, 2020
  • #317
wince said:
Fair question and easy one to answer, going to football is a habit , for years and years ,as soon as the fixtures came out I/we would arrange our lifes around them , family , parties ect , would all be around the fixtures , every Saturday , Tuesday I and more importantly everyone in my life would known where I would be, that all changed , the year we went to Northampton(decision made by non football people who just didn't understand football fans) , the bond the habit broken,, when we came back there were times especially night games when it would have been easy to stay away , but like I say , it was a habit , when the move to brum came about , habit already broken found I liked the money I got for work on Saturdays , because I wasn't there , it didn't hurt as much when we lost , likewise didn't get as much joy when we win , I posted today as I always in the past wondered how someone could go to Wembley one week then not go back for a year , sadly I have become one of them people(which I never ever thought I would) , tried to explain this but you know how it is , a lot of people jump down your throat and try to tell you what you are thinking or why you are doing something , people who have never met you, but it suits an agenda, if we are back in cov next year I will have a season ticket and hope to get the habit again ,and to answer your other question no I don't feel like I'm missing out , its toxic enough on here , yet alone at the grounds
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Play in Cov - bond
Play in Northampton - bond broken
Return to Cov - bond returned
Forced to Brum - bond gone

If you don’t want to go to St Andrews then don’t, nobody agrees with us playing outside Cov but what you’ve described isn’t a bond it’s convenience.
 
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wince

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  • Feb 17, 2020
  • #318
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Liquid Gold said:
Play in Cov - bond
Play in Northampton - bond broken
Return to Cov - bond returned
Forced to Brum - bond gone

If you don’t want to go to St Andrews then don’t, nobody agrees with us playing outside Cov but what you’ve described isn’t a bond it’s convenience.
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Yes your right again
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Feb 17, 2020
  • #319
My main issue is that the club runs a model where every penny in counts. The people that complain most about player sales generally don’t go to St Andrews. PSB group being a prime example - fuming about McCallum being sold but quick to tell everyone that he isn’t going to St Andrews.

The more people that go - the better chance we have of keeping our players. Of course if good offers come in they will be sold, but we could hold up a bit longer with more fans through the gates
 
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usskyblue

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  • Feb 17, 2020
  • #320
I live 5000 miles away and am still as fucking passionate about MY team as I ever was.... so it makes it hard to listen to some of the rationale for not going.

But each to there own I guess.
 
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wince

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  • Feb 17, 2020
  • #321
usskyblue said:
When you live 5000 miles away
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Wouldn't be an excuse for not going would it?
 
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usskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 17, 2020
  • #322
wince said:
Wouldn't be an excuse for not going would it?
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I’ve been several times since I left the UK. Whenever I can afford the thousands it costs to come ‘home’. What’s your point ?
 
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wince

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  • Feb 17, 2020
  • #323
usskyblue said:
I’ve been several times since I left the UK. Whenever I can afford the thousands it costs to come ‘home’. What’s your point ?
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Only teasing mate, fair play to you
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Feb 17, 2020
  • #324
wince said:
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Yes your right again
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Yes, you’re petulant again.
 

usskyblue

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  • Feb 17, 2020
  • #325
wince said:
Only teasing mate, fair play to you
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Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 17, 2020
  • #326
usskyblue said:
I live 5000 miles away and am still as fucking passionate about MY team as I ever was.... so it makes it hard to listen to some of the rationale for not going.

But each to there own I guess.
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I hear ya.

I would say that the distance makes me even more passionate. CCFC and the city of my birth are my identity, a huge part of who I am, and I am always very proud to tell people where I’m from and who my team is, and that wouldn’t change if we were top of the Premier or bottom of league two. It’s just who I am. I get to 20 or so games per season now, and after emigrating held a season ticket for 6 years travelling over for every game.

So to hear “supporters” saying they can’t be fucked to go two stops on a train or scoot down the A45- to me its piss poor, and I also know the same “supporters” will be first in line come a playoff final. I don’t believe it’s anything to do with SISU, we all know the reality, it’s just that they can’t be arsed, end of.
 
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The coventrian

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  • Feb 17, 2020
  • #327
Ring Of Steel said:
I hear ya.

I would say that the distance makes me even more passionate. CCFC and the city of my birth are my identity, a huge part of who I am, and I am always very proud to tell people where I’m from and who my team is, and that wouldn’t change if we were top of the Premier or bottom of league two. It’s just who I am. I get to 20 or so games per season now, and after emigrating held a season ticket for 6 years travelling over for every game.

So to hear “supporters” saying they can’t be fucked to go two stops on a train or scoot down the A45- to me its piss poor, and I also know the same “supporters” will be first in line come a playoff final. I don’t believe it’s anything to do with SISU, we all know the reality, it’s just that they can’t be arsed, end of.
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Total delusional bollocks.
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Feb 17, 2020
  • #328
The coventrian said:
Total delusional bollocks.
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lol, this from the guy that was on about drowning people in the sea, huh Valiant?

If we get to the playoffs you’ll be there slinking back in hoping nobody notices- I know it, you know it, we all know it.
 
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The coventrian

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  • Feb 17, 2020
  • #329
Ring Of Steel said:
lol, this from the guy that was on about drowning people in the sea, huh Valiant?

If we get to the playoffs you’ll be there slinking back in hoping nobody notices- I know it, you know it, we all know it.
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What's your leftie politics shite got to do with this?
No I wouldn't be there actually as I'm.on a cruise with the family. I guess you'll make it over though for your 1 game a season. 1 more than usual I suppose.
 
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Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Feb 17, 2020
  • #330
The coventrian said:
What's your leftie politics shite got to do with this?
No I wouldn't be there actually as I'm.on a cruise with the family.
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I really hope for the sake of this forum your cruise isn't in Japan. I really hope not...
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Feb 17, 2020
  • #331
The coventrian said:
What's your leftie politics shite got to do with this?
No I wouldn't be there actually as I'm.on a cruise with the family. I guess you'll make it over though for your 1 game a season. 1 more than usual I suppose.
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On a cruise lol- not sure cleaning out the canal basin counts m8
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 18, 2020
  • #332
Ring Of Steel said:
On a cruise lol- not sure cleaning out the canal basin counts m8
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You won’t be laughing when you see his council tax bill.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Feb 18, 2020
  • #333
Good to see people learning from Northampton and respecting each others' views...
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 18, 2020
  • #334
Deleted member 5849 said:
Good to see people learning from Northampton and respecting each others' views...
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Much more than before I think but then the situation is very different and there are more people attending
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Feb 18, 2020
  • #335
Sky Blue Pete said:
Much more than before I think but then the situation is very different and there are more people attending
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There seems a bit of a reverse to me, and people being berated for not going.

And that starts the likes of the Coventrian up then... and that schtick is so 2014.

Why not just accept that people may not want to go to Birmingham... for whatever reason. It's a pile on in reverse from the Northampton spell. Surely we can learn that's all more destructive than anything owners, rugby clubs etc can do.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 18, 2020
  • #336
Deleted member 5849 said:
There seems a bit of a reverse to me, and people being berated for not going.
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Isn't that the whole reason the Coventrian signed back up? Isn't it the whole reason wince or whoever it was logged back in?
 

Adge

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 18, 2020
  • #337
Nick said:
Isn't that the whole reason the Coventrian signed back up? Isn't it the whole reason wince or whoever it was logged back in?
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Maybe, but in other people’s cases who are regular posters and attend away games they are also dragged over the coals as you well know.
 

olderskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 18, 2020
  • #338
Deleted member 5849 said:
There seems a bit of a reverse to me, and people being berated for not going.

And that starts the likes of the Coventrian up then... and that schtick is so 2014.

Why not just accept that people may not want to go to Birmingham... for whatever reason. It's a pile on in reverse from the Northampton spell. Surely we can learn that's all more destructive than anything owners, rugby clubs etc can do.
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all those super fans typing like mad again. Wonder where they all were at the wasps protest you organised.... I mean, it wasn’t far to go was it?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 18, 2020
  • #339
Adge said:
Maybe, but in other people’s cases who are regular posters and attend away games they are also dragged over the coals as you well know.
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It depends I guess, there are loads of people who don't go. Obviously fair enough and their choice.

It's when people make it all about their morals etc it's stupid.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 18, 2020
  • #340
Deleted member 5849 said:
There seems a bit of a reverse to me, and people being berated for not going.

And that starts the likes of the Coventrian up then... and that schtick is so 2014.

Why not just accept that people may not want to go to Birmingham... for whatever reason. It's a pile on in reverse from the Northampton spell. Surely we can learn that's all more destructive than anything owners, rugby clubs etc can do.
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People don't get shit when they just say they don't want to watch us in Birmingham, it's when they attribute it to other things that are bollocks.
 

mmttww

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 18, 2020
  • #341
FFS, stop hammering folks who either go less or don't go since the move to St Andrews. Someone who's grown up seeing CCFC home games as part of the life they have in their city isn't an asshole for being reluctant to start travelling to a different city to watch that team. Makes you look like a bunch of pricks. Put your energy into encouraging folks you know IRL to give it a shot starting with Rotheram. If everyone who already goes St Andrews can persuade one new person to join them that'll double the crowd. Berating folks on here will only have the opposite effect. It seems like folks that get most heated on this topic are those who live away from the city now and maybe have done for a while. Maybe reflect on the idea that you no longer understand what it means to watch your 'local' team - it means something different for you now. Your association is entirely with the club, not the place. Be positive and stop drilling other CCFC fans.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Feb 18, 2020
  • #342
mmttww said:
FFS, stop hammering folks who either go less or don't go since the move to St Andrews. Someone who's grown up seeing CCFC home games as part of the life they have in their city isn't an asshole for being reluctant to start travelling to a different city to watch that team. Makes you look like a bunch of pricks. Put your energy into encouraging folks you know IRL to give it a shot starting with Rotheram. If everyone who already goes St Andrews can persuade one new person to join them that'll double the crowd. Berating folks on here will only have the opposite effect. It seems like folks that get most heated on this topic are those who live away from the city now and maybe have done for a while. Maybe reflect on the idea that you no longer understand what it means to watch your 'local' team - it means something different for you now. Your association is entirely with the club, not the place. Be positive and stop drilling other CCFC fans.
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Nobody's berating people for not going, they are just taking issue with people coming up with bullshit to back themselves up. Same as the NOPM lot going on about morals all that time until we drew Arsenal or ended up at Wembley. Nobody has to go if they don't want to, do whatever you fucking want but you look like a twat when you make it about other stuff.
 
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Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 18, 2020
  • #343
Liquid Gold said:
Nobody's berating people for not going, they are just taking issue with people coming up with bullshit to back themselves up. Same as the NOPM lot going on about morals all that time until we drew Arsenal or ended up at Wembley. Nobody has to go if they don't want to, do whatever you fucking want but you look like a twat when you make it about other stuff.
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Exactly- rocking up and banging on about sisu in blissful (or deliberate) ignorance, when you can find umpteen threads on the indemnity & facts behind everything just comes across as made up horseshit to try and justify a "moral stance"- if people are gonna do that then they should at least arm themselves with the odd fact or two.
 

usskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 18, 2020
  • #344
Deleted member 5849 said:
Good to see people learning from Northampton and respecting each others' views...
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The point now is; our route back is blocked by Wasps. And it’s not a secret anymore.

As Nick mentioned, and it’s plain to see, there are people with agendas purposely spouting bullshit and some people are fucking sick of it and call it out.

If you want to harp on something; How’s your faith in the Trust holding up?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 18, 2020
  • #345
Deleted member 5849 said:
There seems a bit of a reverse to me, and people being berated for not going.

And that starts the likes of the Coventrian up then... and that schtick is so 2014.

Why not just accept that people may not want to go to Birmingham... for whatever reason. It's a pile on in reverse from the Northampton spell. Surely we can learn that's all more destructive than anything owners, rugby clubs etc can do.
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Course no berating or judging either way. I just think it’s exciting and the local radio and press should be exciting people about what’s going on. They’re there many are not. Is there really something wrong with that?

Also we are talking for the first time since the mid 60’s that we have been in this position. I haven’t done away games for 20 years or so I’m thinking I’m going to get up to Rochdale with my lad
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Feb 18, 2020
  • #346
Sky Blue Pete said:
Course no berating or judging either way. I just think it’s exciting and the local radio and press should be exciting people about what’s going on. They’re there many are not. Is there really something wrong with that?

Also we are talking for the first time since the mid 60’s that we have been in this position. I haven’t done away games for 20 years or so I’m thinking I’m going to get up to Rochdale with my lad
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See what am I supposed to say now? I personally find it very uncomfortable going to Birmingham to watch Coventry, I have to get over that. I tried it at Northampton (the football was great and exciting there, too, and for 2/3 of the season we were motoring) but I couldn't get over the wrong coloured seats, the half empty stadium, the foreign surroundings... and Northampton was easier for me to get to than the Ricoh anyway - St Andrews isn't.

That's my view, I don't expect anybody else to share it, but that's my view. Encouraging is better than badgering for sure, but if I'm told that the football is great and exciting then my response would be as above. It's at that stage we get the pile in which is completely inappropriate, as opposed to just respecting we have different perspectives about it.
 
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The coventrian

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  • Feb 18, 2020
  • #347
Nick said:
Isn't that the whole reason the Coventrian signed back up? Isn't it the whole reason wince or whoever it was logged back in?
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The reason I signed back up? I signed back up as I was sick to death of seeing you and a few others blaming anyone but sisu for this. You just won't have a bad word said against them. What is it that irks you about them getting slagged off?
 
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The coventrian

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  • Feb 18, 2020
  • #348
Liquid Gold said:
People don't get shit when they just say they don't want to watch us in Birmingham, it's when they attribute it to other things that are bollocks.
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I dont want to watch us in Birmingham. That's it. The end.
 
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The coventrian

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  • Feb 18, 2020
  • #349
Liquid Gold said:
Nobody's berating people for not going, they are just taking issue with people coming up with bullshit to back themselves up. Same as the NOPM lot going on about morals all that time until we drew Arsenal or ended up at Wembley. Nobody has to go if they don't want to, do whatever you fucking want but you look like a twat when you make it about other stuff.
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Nopm exists only in your mind.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Feb 18, 2020
  • #350
Deleted member 5849 said:
See what am I supposed to say now? I personally find it very uncomfortable going to Birmingham to watch Coventry, I have to get over that. I tried it at Northampton (the football was great and exciting there, too, and for 2/3 of the season we were motoring) but I couldn't get over the wrong coloured seats, the half empty stadium, the foreign surroundings... and Northampton was easier for me to get to than the Ricoh anyway - St Andrews isn't.

That's my view, I don't expect anybody else to share it, but that's my view. Encouraging is better than badgering for sure, but if I'm told that the football is great and exciting then my response would be as above. It's at that stage we get the pile in which is completely inappropriate, as opposed to just respecting we have different perspectives about it.
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I doubt anybody would have a problem with that.
 
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