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CCFCSteve

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #1,366
shmmeee said:
Forget points, I just hope we come away from this run of games with some shred of confidence.

Walker and Kelly coming back, Dabo and Godden hopefully not far away. March looks kinder on us. Fans and players just need to keep their heads while we’re reminded just how far off the top of the league we are.
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Agreed. These are the run of games we need to results in as I can’t see much over next couple (at least stick two up top and give it a go though !)

 

Otis

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #1,367
Here's my observation. You are getting it whether you want it or not.

All defenders make mistakes. It happens. If you are a defender with a bit of pace though, you are able to rectify mistakes in certain circumstances.

If you are a slow defender and give the ball away in dangerous areas, it more often than not ends up with a goal, or a great chance on goal.

Now, I haven't been on iFollow, so am not seeing what many of you are seeing, but, to me, playing both Hyam and McFazdean, seems a recipe for disaster. They are both very slow and nearly every error around our own penalty area seems to result in a goal for the opposition.

I know we brought in McFazdean for his championship experience, but he seems far too slow for this division in my opinion and Hyam has looked poor for quite a while.

We have a real lack of pace at the back and of course, added to that, are making horrendous mistakes to boot.

Just wondering if playing Ostigard and Rose would be a better option than McFazdean and Hyam. I do realise we are often playing three at the back, but when we are going for 2 CB's I mean.

The lack of pace at the back worries me a lot more than the lack of goals at the other end.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #1,368
Sick Boy said:
...Forest, a relegation rival, have taken 6 points off us.
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QPR currently beating a side that will beat us by 3 or 4 on Saturday
 
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covmark

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #1,369
Grendel said:
Well I don’t think Sisu care what league we are in
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I don't think they care about the club. I think they care what league we're in.

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curly_tom

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #1,370
Sick Boy said:
Which of their goals tonight were down to their superior quality rather than yet more basic and careless mistakes?
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MIstakes are made when you play superior opposition, don't you think? When under pressure you are forced into errors...
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #1,371
We need to find a way to score some goals.
 

Covkid1968#

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #1,372
covmark said:
Mate, sometimes you need to concede that the opposition have some fucking good players.

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I agree....He was class Nick.... you have to appreciate the quality.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #1,373
cc84cov said:
No mate he needed to find a way to sort it in January window what do you suggest he does now ?
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I don't know, that's his job, stopping the centre halves fucking about with the ball would be a start.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #1,374
Brighton Sky Blue said:
You did watch the first half right?
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I did.. Up until they scored we competed... Then they completely ran us ragged after they scored their first.
We didn't surrender, they are just much better than us and had the bit between their teeth

We came out second half, did our best but didn't have the quality to change the game... It's why we are where we are and they are where they are
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #1,375
Otis said:
Here's my observation. You are getting it whether you want it or not.

All defenders make mistakes. It happens. If you are a defender with a bit of pace though, you are able to rectify mistakes in certain circumstances.

If you are a slow defender and give the ball away in dangerous areas, it more often than not ends up with a goal, or a great chance on goal.

Now, I haven't been on iFollow, so am not seeing what many of you are seeing, but, to me, playing both Hyam and McFazdean, seems a recipe for disaster. They are both very slow and nearly every error around our own penalty area seems to result in a goal for the opposition.

I know we brought in McFazdean for his championship experience, but he seems far too slow for this division in my opinion and Hyam has looked poor for quite a while.

We have a real lack of pace at the back and of course, added to that, are making horrendous mistakes to boot.

Just wondering if playing Ostigard and Rose would be a better option than McFazdean and Hyam. I do realise we are often acting three at the back, but when we are going for 2 CB's I mean.

The lack of pace at the back worries me a lot more than the lack of goals at the other end.
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Tonight was not the night to try and play out from the back against the league leaders on an awful surface, that ultimately is where both goals (and the others that really should have been converted) came from.
 
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rhino1002

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #1,376
Fergusons_Beard said:
Another thing to blame is that fucking pitch it’s twatting chronic. Bobbly bastard ball all the time. Not helping.


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last season there were lots of people on here and other media saying we should play at Stans permanently you dont see much of them now
 
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junglej13

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #1,377
Norwich are clearly a good side but most concerning is I can't see us scoring a goal from anywhere. We get no more than two men in the box at any stage. Even with the set pieces I honestly don't think we could put less threatening deliveries in if we tried. Everyone is floated aimlessly towards the back of the penalty area.
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #1,378
At least we’ve mastered the art of losing the game first half and putting in a spirited, but ineffectual performance second half so the fans will come out it saying ‘well we gave it good go’.
 

RegTheDonk

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #1,379
shmmeee said:
Forget points, I just hope we come away from this run of games with some shred of confidence.

Walker and Kelly coming back, Dabo and Godden hopefully not far away. March looks kinder on us. Fans and players just need to keep their heads while we’re reminded just how far off the top of the league we are.
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I dunno what confidence they'll take from that other than we only let the league leaders put 2 past us and shit defending was the main failing. Definately agree on paper it looks better for March, perhaps mentally they can believe they can win those games, particularly if we get those key players back. Tonight just seemed like oh well its vs top of the league, we got no chance.
 
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cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #1,380
clint van damme said:
I don't know, that's his job, stopping the centre halves fucking about with the ball would be a start.
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He’s far too stuck in his ways to do that he won’t suddenly go route 1 time and time again we are getting caught messing at the back the fact is their not god enough to play like that at this level the manager should surely see it we’ve conceded how many from mistakes like that ? We were doing it last year
 

better days

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #1,381
Otis said:
Here's my observation. You are getting it whether you want it or not.

All defenders make mistakes. It happens. If you are a defender with a bit of pace though, you are able to rectify mistakes in certain circumstances.

If you are a slow defender and give the ball away in dangerous areas, it more often than not ends up with a goal, or a great chance on goal.

Now, I haven't been on iFollow, so am not seeing what many of you are seeing, but, to me, playing both Hyam and McFazdean, seems a recipe for disaster. They are both very slow and nearly every error around our own penalty area seems to result in a goal for the opposition.

I know we brought in McFazdean for his championship experience, but he seems far too slow for this division in my opinion and Hyam has looked poor for quite a while.

We have a real lack of pace at the back and of course, added to that, are making horrendous mistakes to boot.

Just wondering if playing Ostigard and Rose would be a better option than McFazdean and Hyam. I do realise we are often acting three at the back, but when we are going for 2 CB's I mean.

The lack of pace at the back worries me a lot more than the lack of goals at the other end.
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Pask probably has the best pace of our central defenders but he's not had a chance to play in that spot yet
Not blistering but better than those ahead of him at the moment
 
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Deleted member 2477

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #1,382
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Shipley was absolutely shocking
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He played well tonight given its not his position. What do you expect Stuart Pearce
 
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Hobo

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #1,383
covcity4life said:
Why is fibal third such an issue? I'm not buying that it's just a case of not having the best players
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That is when good teams really start defending. Just enough to spoil a pass and make it 50/50
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #1,384
Evo1883 said:
I did.. Up until they scored we competed... Then they completely ran us ragged after they scored their first.
We didn't surrender, they are just much better than us and had the bit between their teeth

We came out second half, did our best but didn't have the quality to change the game... It's why we are where we are and they are where they are
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We looked like we'd accepted defeat before kick off
 
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Covkid1968#

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #1,385
Max looked good when he came on, Kelly is back, Walker has game time. Every team in the bottom 8 lost/ losing

But more importantly...I’ve seen a picture with my sons name on the membership shirt. Got a Stella and am relatively happy tonight
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #1,386
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
We need to find a way to score some goals.
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That would definitely help
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #1,387
marcusp said:
He played well tonight given its not his position. What do you expect Stuart Pearce
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Singled out more than once by Oggy for just ambling around and forgetting his surroundings. Yes out of position but the same limping around the pitch from him.
 
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Hobo

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #1,388
Grendel said:
A normal fan wouldn’t keep sucking the Sisu cock like you do
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You defended them for years
 

TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #1,389
People love excusing shite on here. Norwich won't have had an easier away day all season, it was pathetic. If you are OK with that then fair play, but I'm not.

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #1,390
SeaSeeEffCee said:
At least we’ve mastered the art of losing the game first half and putting in a spirited, but ineffectual performance second half so the fans will come out it saying ‘well we gave it good go’.
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'Drew the second half twice in a row lads'
 
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clint van damme

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #1,391
cc84cov said:
He’s far too stuck in his ways to do that he won’t suddenly go route 1 time and time again we are getting caught messing at the back the fact is their not god enough to play like that at this level the manager should surely see it we’ve conceded how many from mistakes like that ? We were doing it last year
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He doesn't have to abandon playing out from the back totally, but tonight, against the top of the league on a poor picture and with the quality they have it was madness.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #1,392
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Singled out more than once by Oggy for just ambling around and forgetting his surroundings. Yes out of position but the same limping around the pitch from him.
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He literally puts in no effort yet people still love him, that ‘amazing’ pass from cantwell would have been easy to read if Shipley was awake
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #1,393
TomRad85 said:
People love excusing shite on here. Norwich won't have had an easier away day all season, it was pathetic. If you are OK with that then fair play, but I'm not.

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...and the usual nonsese like "Biamou did well"
 
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Evo1883

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #1,394
Brighton Sky Blue said:
We looked like we'd accepted defeat before kick off
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I dont.. We could have gone 1 up before they scored their first... They are a quality side
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #1,395
Brighton Sky Blue said:
We looked like we'd accepted defeat before kick off
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I wouldnt Say that but he has to accept that playing Hyam game after game is a licence to concede and a first game back for walker as a lone isolated striker is also not a great tactic - robins also looks defeated
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #1,396
Evo1883 said:
I dont.. We could have gone 1 up before they scored their first... They are a quality side
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Well it is part of the formula to miss a sitter before giving away the first goal that's true
 

Colin Steins Smile

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #1,397
Apologies if this has been already stated, but I’ve not read the previous 39 pages of this thread. My take on tonight’s game:
1. Appalling defending - not helped by the inability to retain the ball up front.
2. We play too many flicks and over complicated passes in midfield, which inevitably leads to teams counterattacking into space
3. The back 3 without Osti is slow.
4. Decosta goes walk about and leaves the back 3 exposed.
5. We need to play two up front as the box system with Allen doesn’t work as we can’t retain the ball.
 

Hobo

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #1,398
Nick said:
Yes, we have been 2-0 down and tney haven't had to break into a sweat.

It's another fucking pathetic performance.

People are trying to delude themselves.
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I think you are deluded about our potential v their level.
 
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Frostie

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #1,399
Sick Boy said:
...Forest, a relegation rival, have taken 6 points off us.
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Right? And we've picked up points they haven't elsewhere.
There's been some disappointing results for sure but the point is it's only February. We don't have to be better than everyone, we don't even need to be good, we just need to not be one of the 3 worst & so far, despite all odds, we're doing it.

As I've said previously, if we're in the bottom 3 at end of March I'll start panicking.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #1,400
Grendel said:
I wouldnt Say that but he has to accept that playing Hyam game after game is a licence to concede and a first game back for walker as a lone isolated striker is also not a great tactic - robins also looks defeated
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He was laughing with Farke before kick off, probably at the team selection
 
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