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Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2020
  • #876
1. Nandy
2. Starmer

1. Rayner
2. Butler

Think Starmer will win it in the first round.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 28, 2020
  • #877
Liquid Gold said:
1. Nandy
2. Starmer

1. Rayner
2. Butler

Think Starmer will win it in the first round.
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Yeah it’s gonna be Starmer and Rayner.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 3, 2020
  • #878
I have gone for The Starmer and Rayner dream team
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 3, 2020
  • #879
Right. Angela Rayner. Help me out. I don’t see it? Is it just a bit of patronising the working class or am I a dickhead who is missing an amazing poltician?
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 3, 2020
  • #880
I went
1. Nandy
2. Starmer
3. Long-Bailey

1. Rayner
2. Allin-Khan
3. Murray
4. Butler
5. Burgon

Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
 
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Flying Fokker

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 4, 2020
  • #881
so. I am not a member of the party and was sent A voting option.

I guess that is how I keep Long Bailey and Rayner out.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 4, 2020
  • #882
Nandy appears naturally the most cogent,Frank,honest, honourable,responsive.
Therefore the most electable on the national stage
Foolish if they select another.
If not certainly one for the future.
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 4, 2020
  • #883
I hope its Long Bailey
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 4, 2020
  • #884
SkyBlueDom26 said:
I hope its Long Bailey
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It'd be foolish to want that even as a massive Johnson fan. Having an unelectable opposition and practically free reign to do as they please for long periods never turns out well either way. You need an effective opposition to have effective, accountable government.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 4, 2020
  • #885
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
It'd be foolish to want that even as a massive Johnson fan. Having an unelectable opposition and practically free reign to do as they please for long periods never turns out well either way. You need an effective opposition to have effective, accountable government.
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Why on earth wouldn't you want a better alternative than the government, anyway?

It's unlikely to happen(!) but give me a Tory who out-Labours Labour and out-Liberals the Liberals, and I'd vote for them.

Ironically, Johnson'd be close if it weren't for the incompetencies and self-interests!
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Mar 4, 2020
  • #886
Flying Fokker said:
so. I am not a member of the party and was sent A voting option.

I guess that is how I keep Long Bailey and Rayner out.
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I assume you have been a member in the past, and not just been randomly selected?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 4, 2020
  • #887
Deleted member 5849 said:
Why on earth wouldn't you want a better alternative than the government, anyway?

It's unlikely to happen(!) but give me a Tory who out-Labours Labour and out-Liberals the Liberals, and I'd vote for them.

Ironically, Johnson'd be close if it weren't for the incompetencies and self-interests!
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Yeah if it wasn’t for the authoritarian tendencies, the lies, the racism, the fucking stupid shit like pretending he’d been to a hospital with coronavirus in it and shook hands (fucking moron) and the absolutely detestable people around him, and the dodgy connections to foreign powers, I’d quite like Johnson’s policy platform. I’m middle of the road socially and fairly left wing economically. It’s just some of it is just economically illiterate and some of it is lies. But aside from that.

I think when you’re new to it politics is a team sport, then you realise it’s a system that needs all parts firing. One reason I’m quite sad Boris did a Stalinist purge of the moderates. I genuinely think proper conservatism is an important part of democracy and while I’d never vote for them you need someone doing the job of making sure we don’t go off half cocked. Sadly both sides are fucking useless loons at the moment.
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 4, 2020
  • #888
shmmeee said:
Right. Angela Rayner. Help me out. I don’t see it? Is it just a bit of patronising the working class or am I a dickhead who is missing an amazing poltician?
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The former I think.
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 4, 2020
  • #889
wingy said:
Nandy appears naturally the most cogent,Frank,honest, honourable,responsive.
Therefore the most electable on the national stage
Foolish if they select another.
If not certainly one for the future.
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Are you joking? Nandy says a lot of "we must" without having any actual ideas. I think she's dreadful tbh.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 4, 2020
  • #890
Deleted member 5849 said:
Why on earth wouldn't you want a better alternative than the government, anyway?

It's unlikely to happen(!) but give me a Tory who out-Labours Labour and out-Liberals the Liberals, and I'd vote for them.

Ironically, Johnson'd be close if it weren't for the incompetencies and self-interests!
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Just odd that he gets away with it whereas the left get dog's abuse for proposing similar ideas
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 4, 2020
  • #891
SkyBlueDom26 said:
I hope its Long Bailey
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Politics isn’t football, you don’t just cheer for your side. Get your head out of the culture war. Our democracy functions best when we have an effective opposition to hold the government to account.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 4, 2020
  • #892
Liquid Gold said:
Politics isn’t football, you don’t just cheer for your side. Get your head out of the culture war. Our democracy functions best when we have an effective opposition to hold the government to account.
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Even though people had a change for Corbyn?
 
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Flying Fokker

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 4, 2020
  • #893
Deleted member 5849 said:
I assume you have been a member in the past, and not just been randomly selected?
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Yes. A few years ago. I still get the emails. I cancelled and asked them not to send mail. The way the party was going with momentum and Corbyn et al meant I could not continue as a member. Until they have a credible alternative I will cast my vote elsewhere. Tbh I don’t like extremes. I vote for the least bad.
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 4, 2020
  • #894
Liquid Gold said:
Politics isn’t football, you don’t just cheer for your side. Get your head out of the culture war. Our democracy functions best when we have an effective opposition to hold the government to account.
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Yeah you do cheer for ya side, go on Borissss
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 5, 2020
  • #895
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Yeah you do cheer for ya side, go on Borissss
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Yeah, but I think you've taken it a bit far Dom

 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 5, 2020
  • #896
Flying Fokker said:
Yes. A few years ago. I still get the emails. I cancelled and asked them not to send mail. The way the party was going with momentum and Corbyn et al meant I could not continue as a member. Until they have a credible alternative I will cast my vote elsewhere. Tbh I don’t like extremes. I vote for the least bad.
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Who did you vote for at the last election, just out of interest?
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 5, 2020
  • #897
clint van damme said:
Yeah, but I think you've taken it a bit far Dom

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OMGGGGGGGGGGGGG Can't believe you found it
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Mar 5, 2020
  • #898
So out of interest, how many people around here are Coventry Labour Party members?
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 5, 2020
  • #899
Deleted member 5849 said:
So out of interest, how many people around here are Coventry Labour Party members?
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I am!!!
 
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clint van damme

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  • Mar 5, 2020
  • #900
Deleted member 5849 said:
So out of interest, how many people around here are Coventry Labour Party members?
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affiliated through the union. No idea who to vote for to the point I probably won't bother this time round.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 5, 2020
  • #901
Affiliated through the union
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 5, 2020
  • #902
Deleted member 5849 said:
So out of interest, how many people around here are Coventry Labour Party members?
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My wife and I are members but obviously in Warwick and Leam CLP.

I voted Starmer, Nandy, second pref.

Murray, Dr Allin-Khan, second pref.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 5, 2020
  • #903
SkyBlueDom26 said:
I hope its Long Bailey
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Hopefully not. I don't want another decade of the Tories.

After last night's Andrew Neill interview I think she is toast anyway now.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 8, 2020
  • #904
Lisa Nandy demands answers over missing Labour leadership ballots
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 9, 2020
  • #905
Keir Starmer declines to rule out campaigning to rejoin EU

Oh dear, when will labour learn! LOL
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 9, 2020
  • #906
He just won’t let this go, it’s my real worry with him. His actual position is a bit more nuanced but he should’ve known how it’d be reported and just said “no”. It’s an obvious gotcha question that’s going to come up.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 9, 2020
  • #907
shmmeee said:
He just won’t let this go, it’s my real worry with him. His actual position is a bit more nuanced but he should’ve known how it’d be reported and just said “no”. It’s an obvious gotcha question that’s going to come up.
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Shows signs that he's deluded and unwilling to listen to the north
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 9, 2020
  • #908
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Keir Starmer declines to rule out campaigning to rejoin EU

Oh dear, when will labour learn! LOL
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saw that and it pretty much made my mind up not to vote in the leadership election. Thought Starmer was the only realistic candidate to take the party forward even if I personally would prefer someone a bit more left leaning but you've got to compromise but this is madness.
Problem is there are a lot of centrists who think that's a vote winner, they'll never learn.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 9, 2020
  • #909
clint van damme said:
saw that and it pretty much made my mind up not to vote in the leadership election. Thought Starmer was the only realistic candidate to take the party forward even if I personally would prefer someone a bit more left leaning but you've got to compromise but this is madness.
Problem is there are a lot of centrists who think that's a vote winner, they'll never learn.
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Surely Nandy is the best option? Kier or RLB would be crazy and are only trying to make Londoners happy
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 9, 2020
  • #910
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Keir Starmer declines to rule out campaigning to rejoin EU

Oh dear, when will labour learn! LOL
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Bit of a trap because anyone would be mad to rule it out. If we leave and everything goes to shit and an overwhelming percentage of people want to rejoin should he just keep refusing? Of course that level of detail doesn't come over and he ends up looking a bit ridiculous.

Not as much as the papers at the weekend who had headlines declaring nearly half the country wants to rejoin which when you then read the article was the results of a poll showing 46% rejoin against 54% leave!
 
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