Brighton Sky Blue
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Besides G we have the presidential election to look forward to. Would love a charitable wager that Sanders beats Trump if he wins the primary...
Some policies were popular granted, but others were ridiculous, i.e. free broadband.
The Brexit policy was a disaster but to blame this for our defeat is ridiculous considering more people voted for remain parties (Labour, LD, Green SNP) than for the Tories or the Brexit party. Corbyn was a massive, massive issue and the main reason for the defeat. The poll the day after election stating that 43% didn't vote for Labour solely because of Corbyn, whereas only 17% said it was because of Brexit.
The Conservatives beat Labour in every social class. We have a Conservative government today and for at least five years because of Jeremy Corbyn, not because of Brexit. It's a shame his arrogance and those sycophants that surround him trumped everything else.
I never ascribed it to just one thing. But both were influential along with a master charlatan leading the other side
Granted, it wasn't just one issue, the main reason WAS Corbyn. Whether you thought he was a "man of peace" or a racist, the fact is he wasn't trusted and the baggage of his past was always a hindrence.
Of all the times we had to be saddled with Corbyn, it was NOW. That is the most tragic aspect of all. Corbyn had May and Johnson. The most dreadful right wing PMs. A half decent opposition would have wiped the floor with them, would have held them to account. Now, we have Brexit and Johnson. Things really couldn't get much worse.
Oh, RLB. That would be much worse.
I never ascribed it to just one thing. But both were influential along with a master charlatan leading the other side
There'll be one.At least when Boris fucks up everyone who voted for it has no excuse
At least when Boris fucks up everyone who voted for it has no excuse
Makes no difference. Many think Thatcher fucked up and yet even from a position of negative ratings wiped the floor with Kinnock
Sure. Thoughts on the Sanders wager?
Sure. Thoughts on the Sanders wager?
Starmer is going to get my vote, he always was when the final list of candidates came through. I don’t think RLB is the answer... not as a leader anyway.THey're going to have to. We need to win 124 more seats at the next election just to get a majority of 1. We need a leader who attracts those middle class voters, plus voters from the Home Counties, etc if we are to get into power. RLB, Burgon, Butler aren't the people to do that. Burgon in particular is an electoral disaster. An ex-Tory voter is going to go for a Long-Bailey/Burgon "dream ticket". This is why I dispair so much at the lack of understanding from the current leadership along with McCluskey, etc. If RLB gets in then the Tories will be in Downing Street for at least another decade.
He’s the only one that possibly can from the Democrats.Can't see him beating Trump
Can't see him beating Trump
Really? What was that for?It has got me thinking that Sick Boy owed me £20
It has got me thinking that Sick Boy owed me £20
Really? What was that for?
I remember doing a donation to Many Tears Rescue at Christmas 2017.
Fair enough...give me the details when you can do.
Trumps not losing this year. Save your money guys.
Trumps not losing this year. Save your money guys.
Fair enough...give me the details when you can do.
If Bernie gets through to face him there's every reason to think otherwise
I think it’s this
The EU: In, out, shake it all about....
Backing Gezza never a good idea. Beagle welfare would be ideal
Didn't stop you backing Boris tbf.£40? I have to be honest I’m not that comfortable backing Trump as he’s a moron but whatever
Didn't stop you backing Boris tbf.
I think this will be the problem. Will they pick him?If Bernie gets through to face him there's every reason to think otherwise
Does Trump automatically get in as the current president or could the Republicans pick someone else if they wanted to?I think this will be the problem. Will they pick him?
If Bernie gets through to face him there's every reason to think otherwise
Sorry meant for the charity etc cheersI think it’s this
The EU: In, out, shake it all about....
Backing Gezza never a good idea. Beagle welfare would be ideal
He'll turn impeachment to his advantage.Economy is doing well and he’s about to survive impeachment. He’s going nowhere.
Economy is doing well and he’s about to survive impeachment. He’s going nowhere.
Does Trump automatically get in as the current president or could the Republicans pick someone else if they wanted to?
I think this will be the problem. Will they pick him?
Sanders has been shooting up.
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