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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 20, 2019
  • #456
shmmeee said:
Believe it or not but Watson wasn’t really seen as centrist in 2015, I voted Corbyn/Watson mostly because of his record fighting Murdoch and (at the time) the pedo thing. Obviously the second didn’t work out so well.

It was only once he started working against Corbyn that the membership got annoyed.
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He was more central than Corbyn!
 
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shmmeee

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  • Dec 20, 2019
  • #457
Deleted member 5849 said:
He was more central than Corbyn!
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Who isn’t!?
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 20, 2019
  • #458
shmmeee said:
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Clive Lewis
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I’m standing to be Labour leader so the truth can be heard | Clive Lewis

Ex-soldier, fan of PR and quite left wing but not Corbynite.

Pros: Young, black, decent back story

Cons: punches walls, loses friends, “on your knees bitch”
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Think we can forget about Clive after today's antics
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 20, 2019
  • #459
clint van damme said:
Think we can forget about Clive after today's antics
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wtf was that all about?!?
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2019
  • #460
Deleted member 5849 said:
wtf was that all about?!?
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Bizarre to say the least.
Edit - having said that John Baron stood up in the commons today and told a complete pack of lies about how long Australia took to do trade deals with various partners but no one will say a word about it.

I say lies, it could be he was in the same maths class as Matt Hancock.
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 20, 2019
  • #461
clint van damme said:
Bizarre to say the least.
Edit - having said that John Baron stood up in the commons today and told a complete pack of lies about how long Australia took to do trade deals with various partners but no one will say a word about it.

I say lies, it could be he was in the same maths class as Matt Hancock.
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All the more reason not to have a mentalist as leader of the opposition, to distract.

One's enough as PM, without the person across the other side trying desperately to outdo him!
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2019
  • #462
clint van damme said:
Think we can forget about Clive after today's antics
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I missed this. What’s happened?

*heads to google*
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2019
  • #463
shmmeee said:
I missed this. What’s happened?

*heads to google*
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He got in an exchange with another MP and just started acting like a complete moron. Really weird.
Woman MP as well so given his bitch comments it's not a good look.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2019
  • #464
clint van damme said:
He got in an exchange with another MP and just started acting like a complete moron. Really weird.
Woman MP as well so given his bitch comments it's not a good look.
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By all accounts he has no friends in parliament either. The bitch thing was totally overblown, but he’s clearly a bit unstable.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2019
  • #465
shmmeee said:
By all accounts he has no friends in parliament either. The bitch thing was totally overblown, but he’s clearly a bit unstable.
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It was overblown but it is bound to get brought up in the leadership contest.
He could have batted it off but with this on top his detractors will start to be able to create a negative narrative.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2019
  • #466
clint van damme said:
It was overblown but it is bound to get brought up in the leadership contest.
He could have batted it off but with this on top his detractors will start to be able to create a negative narrative.
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Don’t know if you’ve seen it, but there’s a leave.eu meme floating around Facebook with “Labour Leader Odds” shit like “Gerry Adams 15:1” and “Sir Keir Starmer of Brussels 3/1”. His is “Clive ‘on your knees bitch’ Lewis”
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 21, 2019
  • #467

Tories gonna Tory
 

The Great Eastern

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2019
  • #468
Clive Lewis is my MP in Norwich South and comes over as a good prospect sometime in the future but not now. A friend of mine is a Labour party worker and reckons he is an 'arrogant bastard'... However, that's a term that applies to many an MP & not just Mr. Lewis.
What will count against him in the long run is the accusation of inappropriately touching a female party worker but he was cleared by the party big wigs. The right wing press will have a field day with him on that topic should he ever gain power.
 

Flying Fokker

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2019
  • #469
Surely any new leader needs to be the person most likely to bring Labour votes back. Not the ones that sucked up to Corbyn or were in his inner circle.

so forget Starmer, Rayner and others. People will return to the Labour Party if the Tories fail or they present a better Manifesto. Disneyland politics is a cynical and disrespectful take on the electorate. As bad as remoaners calling people thick. It does not work. Free Broadband, reduced hour weeks...WASPI all delivered in the campaign to create the same response as was felt with Foot and Kinnock.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 21, 2019
  • #470
shmmeee said:
I missed this. What’s happened?

*heads to google*
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Head for twitter and there's plenty of examples of him behaving like a dick. I'd actually thought the one CvD meant was him pretending to blow his brains out with a gun - total cuntish thing to do.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2019
  • #471
Flying Fokker said:
Surely any new leader needs to be the person most likely to bring Labour votes back. Not the ones that sucked up to Corbyn or were in his inner circle.

so forget Starmer, Rayner and others. People will return to the Labour Party if the Tories fail or they present a better Manifesto. Disneyland politics is a cynical and disrespectful take on the electorate. As bad as remoaners calling people thick. It does not work. Free Broadband, reduced hour weeks...WASPI all delivered in the campaign to create the same response as was felt with Foot and Kinnock.
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So what is your problem with Starmer?

Do you think he should have ignored the leader of his own party? Because if he had he would be seen as a rebel and not the person to lead his party.

Or do you have a better name to put forward?
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2019
  • #472
shmmeee said:

Tories gonna Tory
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And so it begins....
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2019
  • #473
Ian1779 said:
And so it begins....
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Could easily have been a member of momentum. The Guardian journalist would not of course claim that.

You’d have to be on Mars to not realise Starmer is a very wealthy man.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2019
  • #474
Astute said:
So what is your problem with Starmer?

Do you think he should have ignored the leader of his own party? Because if he had he would be seen as a rebel and not the person to lead his party.

Or do you have a better name to put forward?
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Starmer literally quit as Shadow Home Sec (I think) and backed Owen Smith to try and remove Corbyn in 2016.

But hey, what do facts matter these days?

(agreeing with you to be clear)
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2019
  • #475
Ian1779 said:
And so it begins....
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Genuinely concerned with the state of democracy. Because people want Brexit so hard they’ve just elected a government that:

- Lies with impunity on a level never seen before
- Uses the dark arts online
- Plans to neuter all methods of holding them to account (BBC, Lords, Supreme Court)
- Plans to rewrite the boundaries to make it harder for anyone else to win
- Plans to bring in voter ID to suppress the opposition vote
- Has complete power to rewrite every aspect of British law as we leave the EU
- Is led by someone with connections to Russia and white nationalists and a history of trying to get journalists beaten up who has shown he’ll say and do anything for power. Surrounded by a cabinet that believes in radical right wing philosophy.

Genuinely concerned we’ve just turned a very very dangerous corner.

Never. Give. A. Government. A. Blank. Cheque.
 
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Ian1779

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  • Dec 21, 2019
  • #476
shmmeee said:
Genuinely concerned with the state of democracy. Because people want Brexit so hard they’ve just elected a government that:

- Lies with impunity on a level never seen before
- Uses the dark arts online
- Plans to neuter all methods of holding them to account (BBC, Lords, Supreme Court)
- Plans to rewrite the boundaries to make it harder for anyone else to win
- Plans to bring in voter ID to suppress the opposition vote
- Has complete power to rewrite every aspect of British law as we leave the EU
- Is led by someone with connections to Russia and white nationalists and a history of trying to get journalists beaten up who has shown he’ll say and do anything for power. Surrounded by a cabinet that believes in radical right wing philosophy.

Genuinely concerned we’ve just turned a very very dangerous corner.

Never. Give. A. Government. A. Blank. Cheque.
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And they said Alan Moore was just a story writer... apparently he might be a prophet.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2019
  • #477
shmmeee said:
Genuinely concerned with the state of democracy. Because people want Brexit so hard they’ve just elected a government that:

- Lies with impunity on a level never seen before
- Uses the dark arts online
- Plans to neuter all methods of holding them to account (BBC, Lords, Supreme Court)
- Plans to rewrite the boundaries to make it harder for anyone else to win
- Plans to bring in voter ID to suppress the opposition vote
- Has complete power to rewrite every aspect of British law as we leave the EU
- Is led by someone with connections to Russia and white nationalists and a history of trying to get journalists beaten up who has shown he’ll say and do anything for power. Surrounded by a cabinet that believes in radical right wing philosophy.

Genuinely concerned we’ve just turned a very very dangerous corner.

Never. Give. A. Government. A. Blank. Cheque.
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and people who were banging on about democracy a few months ago suddenly couldn't give a fuck about it.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2019
  • #478
clint van damme said:
and people who were banging on about democracy a few months ago suddenly couldn't give a fuck about it.
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Some seem to think democracy means “do what I want” as opposed to a finely balanced system of checks and balances.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2019
  • #479
shmmeee said:
Starmer literally quit as Shadow Home Sec (I think) and backed Owen Smith to try and remove Corbyn in 2016.

But hey, what do facts matter these days?

(agreeing with you to be clear)
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Nothing done on the sly at least.

And who could now deny that removing Corbyn would have been a bad thing?
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Jan 7, 2020
  • #480
Rebecca Long Bailey.... Hahaha the idea of socialism was completely rejected at the election and she wants to become the new leader?? Labour have become an arrogant laughing stock
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 7, 2020
  • #481
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Rebecca Long Bailey.... Hahaha the idea of socialism was completely rejected at the election and she wants to become the new leader?? Labour have become an arrogant laughing stock
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Only online weirdos on right and left talk about socialism dude. Most people don’t even think about it.

You realise that these are pitches to Labour members not the electorate don’t you? I agree by the way, and hope she gets nowhere near the leadership. Everything I’ve seen is that a small rump of Corbyn loyalists are still banging the drum but the vast majority of members want a change of direction.

Why don’t you join and make sure we get a decent leader of the opposition?

(also: The Tories only won by abandoning their ideological opposition to socialism and promising to keep the biggest socialist project in the western world (NHS) going, so as usual not sure reality matches whats in your head)
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 7, 2020
  • #482
Things Dom thinks the U.K. have rejected:

Police, Fire and Health services
Education
Roads
The Military
Social care
The courts
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 7, 2020
  • #483
shmmeee said:
Things Dom thinks the U.K. have rejected:

Police, Fire and Health services
Education
Roads
The Military
Social care
The courts
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 7, 2020
  • #484
SkyBlueDom26 said:
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Ah the call of the moron who can’t debate. Would the triggered one not load?
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 7, 2020
  • #485
shmmeee said:
Ah the call of the moron who can’t debate. Would the triggered one not load?
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We don't want Corbynism pal, its time to accept it
 

SkyBlueCharlie9

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 7, 2020
  • #486
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Rebecca Long Bailey.... Hahaha the idea of socialism was completely rejected at the election and she wants to become the new leader?? Labour have become an arrogant laughing stock
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Misogynistic as ever (on top of your racist history). Its a leadership contest - why shouldn't she have a voice and put herself forward? With 'young people' like you around I fear for my kids who at 11 and 13 yo are more open minded, knowledgeable and humane than you will ever be.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 7, 2020
  • #487
SkyBlueDom26 said:
We don't want Corbynism pal, its time to accept it
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Make your mind up Corbynism or socialism?

Why were the main reasons for not voting Labour Corbyn personally and Brexit and not the policies if what you say is true?

You’re seeing what you want.
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 7, 2020
  • #488
SkyBlueDom26 said:
We don't want Corbynism pal, its time to accept it
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You wouldn’t accept anything except Brexit, and you have got your wish.

Let’s see how that plays out for you assume the ideas of ‘socialism’ have been rejected (assuming we are not nuked out of existence in the meantime)
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 7, 2020
  • #489
Ian1779 said:
(assuming we are not nuked out of existence in the meantime)
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We all know that isn't going to happen Ian
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 7, 2020
  • #490
shmmeee said:
Make your mind up Corbynism or socialism?

Why were the main reasons for not voting Labour Corbyn personally and Brexit and not the policies if what you say is true?

You’re seeing what you want.
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I don’t think even Tony Blair’s most avid supporter would describe him as an out and out socialist. As we see from Long-Bailey and the absurd Richard Burgon he is not the way forward

You haven’t had a PM without Blair since Sunny Jim Callaghan

Knock yourself out mate
 
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