NorthernWisdom
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He was more central than Corbyn!
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shmmeee
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Who isn’t!?
clint van damme
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Think we can forget about Clive after today's antics
NorthernWisdom
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wtf was that all about?!?
clint van damme
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Bizarre to say the least.
Edit - having said that John Baron stood up in the commons today and told a complete pack of lies about how long Australia took to do trade deals with various partners but no one will say a word about it.
I say lies, it could be he was in the same maths class as Matt Hancock.
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NorthernWisdom
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All the more reason not to have a mentalist as leader of the opposition, to distract.
One's enough as PM, without the person across the other side trying desperately to outdo him!
shmmeee
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clint van damme
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He got in an exchange with another MP and just started acting like a complete moron. Really weird.
Woman MP as well so given his bitch comments it's not a good look.
shmmeee
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By all accounts he has no friends in parliament either. The bitch thing was totally overblown, but he’s clearly a bit unstable.
clint van damme
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It was overblown but it is bound to get brought up in the leadership contest.
He could have batted it off but with this on top his detractors will start to be able to create a negative narrative.
shmmeee
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Don’t know if you’ve seen it, but there’s a leave.eu meme floating around Facebook with “Labour Leader Odds” shit like “Gerry Adams 15:1” and “Sir Keir Starmer of Brussels 3/1”. His is “Clive ‘on your knees bitch’ Lewis”
The Great Eastern
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Clive Lewis is my MP in Norwich South and comes over as a good prospect sometime in the future but not now. A friend of mine is a Labour party worker and reckons he is an 'arrogant bastard'... However, that's a term that applies to many an MP & not just Mr. Lewis.
What will count against him in the long run is the accusation of inappropriately touching a female party worker but he was cleared by the party big wigs. The right wing press will have a field day with him on that topic should he ever gain power.
What will count against him in the long run is the accusation of inappropriately touching a female party worker but he was cleared by the party big wigs. The right wing press will have a field day with him on that topic should he ever gain power.
Flying Fokker
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Surely any new leader needs to be the person most likely to bring Labour votes back. Not the ones that sucked up to Corbyn or were in his inner circle.
so forget Starmer, Rayner and others. People will return to the Labour Party if the Tories fail or they present a better Manifesto. Disneyland politics is a cynical and disrespectful take on the electorate. As bad as remoaners calling people thick. It does not work. Free Broadband, reduced hour weeks...WASPI all delivered in the campaign to create the same response as was felt with Foot and Kinnock.
so forget Starmer, Rayner and others. People will return to the Labour Party if the Tories fail or they present a better Manifesto. Disneyland politics is a cynical and disrespectful take on the electorate. As bad as remoaners calling people thick. It does not work. Free Broadband, reduced hour weeks...WASPI all delivered in the campaign to create the same response as was felt with Foot and Kinnock.
NorthernWisdom
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Head for twitter and there's plenty of examples of him behaving like a dick. I'd actually thought the one CvD meant was him pretending to blow his brains out with a gun - total cuntish thing to do.
Astute
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So what is your problem with Starmer?
Do you think he should have ignored the leader of his own party? Because if he had he would be seen as a rebel and not the person to lead his party.
Or do you have a better name to put forward?
Ian1779
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And so it begins....
Grendel
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Could easily have been a member of momentum. The Guardian journalist would not of course claim that.
You’d have to be on Mars to not realise Starmer is a very wealthy man.
shmmeee
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Starmer literally quit as Shadow Home Sec (I think) and backed Owen Smith to try and remove Corbyn in 2016.
But hey, what do facts matter these days?
(agreeing with you to be clear)
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shmmeee
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Genuinely concerned with the state of democracy. Because people want Brexit so hard they’ve just elected a government that:
- Lies with impunity on a level never seen before
- Uses the dark arts online
- Plans to neuter all methods of holding them to account (BBC, Lords, Supreme Court)
- Plans to rewrite the boundaries to make it harder for anyone else to win
- Plans to bring in voter ID to suppress the opposition vote
- Has complete power to rewrite every aspect of British law as we leave the EU
- Is led by someone with connections to Russia and white nationalists and a history of trying to get journalists beaten up who has shown he’ll say and do anything for power. Surrounded by a cabinet that believes in radical right wing philosophy.
Genuinely concerned we’ve just turned a very very dangerous corner.
Never. Give. A. Government. A. Blank. Cheque.
Ian1779
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And they said Alan Moore was just a story writer... apparently he might be a prophet.
clint van damme
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and people who were banging on about democracy a few months ago suddenly couldn't give a fuck about it.
shmmeee
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Some seem to think democracy means “do what I want” as opposed to a finely balanced system of checks and balances.
Astute
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Nothing done on the sly at least.
And who could now deny that removing Corbyn would have been a bad thing?
SkyBlueDom26
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Rebecca Long Bailey.... Hahaha the idea of socialism was completely rejected at the election and she wants to become the new leader?? Labour have become an arrogant laughing stock
shmmeee
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Only online weirdos on right and left talk about socialism dude. Most people don’t even think about it.
You realise that these are pitches to Labour members not the electorate don’t you? I agree by the way, and hope she gets nowhere near the leadership. Everything I’ve seen is that a small rump of Corbyn loyalists are still banging the drum but the vast majority of members want a change of direction.
Why don’t you join and make sure we get a decent leader of the opposition?
(also: The Tories only won by abandoning their ideological opposition to socialism and promising to keep the biggest socialist project in the western world (NHS) going, so as usual not sure reality matches whats in your head)
SkyBlueDom26
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shmmeee
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Ah the call of the moron who can’t debate. Would the triggered one not load?
SkyBlueDom26
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We don't want Corbynism pal, its time to accept it
SkyBlueCharlie9
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Misogynistic as ever (on top of your racist history). Its a leadership contest - why shouldn't she have a voice and put herself forward? With 'young people' like you around I fear for my kids who at 11 and 13 yo are more open minded, knowledgeable and humane than you will ever be.
shmmeee
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Make your mind up Corbynism or socialism?
Why were the main reasons for not voting Labour Corbyn personally and Brexit and not the policies if what you say is true?
You’re seeing what you want.
Ian1779
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You wouldn’t accept anything except Brexit, and you have got your wish.
Let’s see how that plays out for you assume the ideas of ‘socialism’ have been rejected (assuming we are not nuked out of existence in the meantime)
SkyBlueDom26
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We all know that isn't going to happen Ian
Grendel
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I don’t think even Tony Blair’s most avid supporter would describe him as an out and out socialist. As we see from Long-Bailey and the absurd Richard Burgon he is not the way forward
You haven’t had a PM without Blair since Sunny Jim Callaghan
Knock yourself out mate
