Mcbean
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Luckily you have CCFC for order
Luckily you have CCFC for orderYeah, but I can't even do simple tasks sometimes. My missus has shown me about 20-30 times how to put the dogs' harnesses on and then how to attach their harnesses in their car.
I lose her within about 12 seconds of the conversation. If it's insert tab A into tab B and then loop tab B around tab C, I am still stuck on insert A into B.Once I feel a little unsure on something, I get stuck at that point and can't think of anything else past that point.
I lost a job at Sainsbury's, because they said to unstack a shelf and clean the shelf and stack the tins from the shelf back up again and I just was simply unable to do it. Every time I tried there were either too many rows, or not enough rows, or I hadn't stacked them deep enough, so I was always left with loads of tins at the end.
At that point you get called stupid by your supervisor. I never, ever had a well paid job and was considered not clever enough for uni.
So when you hear stuff like that and then you know struggled at school too and couldn't even read a book, you do indeed believe yourself to be dumb.
If I can control things myself, I am fine. Over my life, I formed my own football team and my own youth theatre group and my own band and my own little film company and theatre company and when it was me, just me in control, I was absolutely fine.
I now have my own radio show. When they dictate to me and I have to adhere to the rules and do things a certain way, i.e. their way, I really struggle.
When I am left to my own devices I am fine.
Wish I knew way back when what I know now, but there just wasn't the pathway to diagnosis around back then.
Glad so many people can get help these days.
Luckily you have CCFC for order
Yeah, but I can't even do simple tasks sometimes. My missus has shown me about 20-30 times how to put the dogs' harnesses on and then how to attach their harnesses in their car.
I lose her within about 12 seconds of the conversation. If it's insert tab A into tab B and then loop tab B around tab C, I am still stuck on insert A into B.Once I feel a little unsure on something, I get stuck at that point and can't think of anything else past that point.
I lost a job at Sainsbury's, because they said to unstack a shelf and clean the shelf and stack the tins from the shelf back up again and I just was simply unable to do it. Every time I tried there were either too many rows, or not enough rows, or I hadn't stacked them deep enough, so I was always left with loads of tins at the end.
At that point you get called stupid by your supervisor. I never, ever had a well paid job and was considered not clever enough for uni.
So when you hear stuff like that and then you know struggled at school too and couldn't even read a book, you do indeed believe yourself to be dumb.
If I can control things myself, I am fine. Over my life, I formed my own football team and my own youth theatre group and my own band and my own little film company and theatre company and when it was me, just me in control, I was absolutely fine.
I now have my own radio show. When they dictate to me and I have to adhere to the rules and do things a certain way, i.e. their way, I really struggle.
When I am left to my own devices I am fine.
Wish I knew way back when what I know now, but there just wasn't the pathway to diagnosis around back then.
Glad so many people can get help these days.
Yeah, to be honest, I haven't believed I am thick, just been led to understand and been conditioned to feel that.Probably the most elegant explanation of neuro diversity that I've ever read.
One thing is absolutely obvious mate, you're not stupid.
This "life" thing, it's a team sport. None of us can make it on our own, and we've all got different skills. Not better, not worse, just different. That's how teams work.
My skill is writing bollocks and irritating people. It's a bit of an oversubscribed niche hereabouts, but I feel it still has value.
I genuinely believe that being 'thick' is underrated. It must be amazing living life with simple expectations, in blissful ignorance to what's going on around you and having no worldly distractions. A bit of a selfish view perhaps, but I reckon they'd be super happy almost all of the time.Probably the most elegant explanation of neuro diversity that I've ever read.
One thing is absolutely obvious mate, you're not stupid.
This "life" thing, it's a team sport. None of us can make it on our own, and we've all got different skills. Not better, not worse, just different. That's how teams work.
My skill is writing bollocks and irritating people. It's a bit of an oversubscribed niche hereabouts, but I feel it still has value.
Yes.
Thanks for sharing, Nick. Much appreciated.I wrote a fairly long post on this thread the other night and decided to delete it (too much personal information).
Anyway i will write a little bit about one of my Sons who is now in his mid 40's.
As a toddler he clearly had some development issues which were brought to our attention initially by the "health visitor", what followed was a long and arduous journey of consultations and assessments...he started "school" in a special unit at age 3 to help give him a head start prior to going into mainstream infant school,we did our own research and felt he was Autistic but could never get a diagnosis by any health professionals in Coventry.
Eventually we managed to get him assessed by a professor at Nottingham university (Elizabeth Newsome) who was recognised as an expert in Autism spectrum disorder... first day we met her she told us "Coventry is an Autism free zone" because a diagnosis means the education authority will have to provide the correct educational needs and Coventry (along with other Cities would not do that at that point in time).
He is severely Autistic and by his teens also started to develop "schizo affective" disorder which is very common in youngsters at the high end of the Autism spectrum....safe to say it broke my heart when at age 15 he had to go in to an adolescent phyciatric unit....it also led to the eventual break up of my first marriage.
He lives in small unit of two with another man with very similar problems and receives amazing care and support,I see him every week without fail and I'm eternally grateful that we live in a society that provides for people such as my Son .
For what it's worth in his own way he's very happy.
Thanks for reading.
Well done you didn’t give up and he’s in a better place for itI wrote a fairly long post on this thread the other night and decided to delete it (too much personal information).
Anyway i will write a little bit about one of my Sons who is now in his mid 40's.
As a toddler he clearly had some development issues which were brought to our attention initially by the "health visitor", what followed was a long and arduous journey of consultations and assessments...he started "school" in a special unit at age 3 to help give him a head start prior to going into mainstream infant school,we did our own research and felt he was Autistic but could never get a diagnosis by any health professionals in Coventry.
Eventually we managed to get him assessed by a professor at Nottingham university (Elizabeth Newsome) who was recognised as an expert in Autism spectrum disorder... first day we met her she told us "Coventry is an Autism free zone" because a diagnosis means the education authority will have to provide the correct educational needs and Coventry (along with other Cities would not do that at that point in time).
He is severely Autistic and by his teens also started to develop "schizo affective" disorder which is very common in youngsters at the high end of the Autism spectrum....safe to say it broke my heart when at age 15 he had to go in to an adolescent psychiatric unit....it also led to the eventual break up of my first marriage.
He lives in small unit of two with another man with very similar problems and receives amazing care and support,I see him every week without fail and I'm eternally grateful that we live in a society that provides for people such as my Son .
For what it's worth in his own way he's very happy.
Thanks for reading.
Thank you,he is funded 50% by the NHS continuing healthcare and 50% by Coventry social services.Well done you didn’t give up and he’s in a better place for it
Ditto thatThank you,he is funded 50% by the NHS continuing healthcare and 50% by Coventry social services.
His annual care review has recently been completed and the NHS are happy to fund him for another year,I find the NHS staff great to deal with,still waiting to hear from Coventry social services re this year's funding,I know there is a crisis nationally as authorities are being asked by the government to reduce costs.
Fingers crossed it will be approved.
I wrote a fairly long post on this thread the other night and decided to delete it (too much personal information).
Anyway i will write a little bit about one of my Sons who is now in his mid 40's.
As a toddler he clearly had some development issues which were brought to our attention initially by the "health visitor", what followed was a long and arduous journey of consultations and assessments...he started "school" in a special unit at age 3 to help give him a head start prior to going into mainstream infant school,we did our own research and felt he was Autistic but could never get a diagnosis by any health professionals in Coventry.
Eventually we managed to get him assessed by a professor at Nottingham university (Elizabeth Newsome) who was recognised as an expert in Autism spectrum disorder... first day we met her she told us "Coventry is an Autism free zone" because a diagnosis means the education authority will have to provide the correct educational needs and Coventry (along with other Cities would not do that at that point in time).
He is severely Autistic and by his teens also started to develop "schizo affective" disorder which is very common in youngsters at the high end of the Autism spectrum....safe to say it broke my heart when at age 15 he had to go in to an adolescent psychiatric unit....it also led to the eventual break up of my first marriage.
He lives in small unit of two with another man with very similar problems and receives amazing care and support,I see him every week without fail and I'm eternally grateful that we live in a society that provides for people such as my Son .
For what it's worth in his own way he's very happy.
Thanks for reading.
I think for some it can help provide some answers why they stuggle/think in a certain way. If it helps them, I don't see the issue.Thanks for sharing.
It’s stories like yours that irk me when people seem obsessed with labelling themselves with a “condition” when in reality they have nothing wrong with them.
I was advised by a health professional I should be tested for adult ADHD - I don’t see any purpose in achieving a label that’s just that. I asked what do I get?? A hat - a T a shirt? I fit the symptoms but I’m sure so do a lot of people.
If you got a hat or a t shirt would you have had the test?
Actually my eldest Daughter who lives in Sydney and is very bright (went to the same Uni as you) as recently been assessed and has ADHD, she has a very successful career in PR and SEO and tells me that the diagnosis helps her understand why she feels and acts in certain ways in some situations, she has some meds that she takes on an as needed basis.I think for some it can help provide some answers why they stuggle/think in a certain way. If it helps them, I don't see the issue.
Not been officially tested, like I said, but my missus telling me that I am clearly autistic, has helped me immensely.I think for some it can help provide some answers why they stuggle/think in a certain way. If it helps them, I don't see the issue.
Autism has a huge spectrum Otis, from very mild to very severe like my SonNot been officially tested, like I said, but my missus telling me that I am clearly autistic, has helped me immensely.
Instead of my questioning my intelligence, my missus has just helped me to understand that my brain is wired differently, that's all.
My missus is an accountant, but on mental maths, I completely outscore her. On simple manual tasks, I am useless and all over the place.
Definitely helped, even though my missus is clearly not a health professional. She's just recognised it through the experience of friends and family.
Indeed.Autism has a huge spectrum Otis, from very mild to very severe like my Son.
I have a lot of knowledge re Autism as you could expect.
I think for some it can help provide some answers why they stuggle/think in a certain way. If it helps them, I don't see the issue.
Well, yeah, but as Nicksar has said, there is a whole spectrum and different levels.My issue is the lack of understanding of conditions which is similar to people saying "I have the flu" - when they have a cold
OCD is not just compulsions but the obsession that drives the complusions
I know someone whose daughter in her mid teens at a point in time would not leave a certain room in their house unless it was specific times of the day. Then they would have to take a specific amount of steps when leaving the room - no more and no less. Food had to be bought into the room. Soiling was common if the time did not prevail the need to go.
Thats the compulsion. People negate the what the obsession means. In this case the obsession was revealed that voices in her head were saying to her if she did not follow this her mother would die of cancer and with great pain.
The common obsessions that trigger the compulsions are phobias and especially emetophobia and mysophobia which often go hand in hand. So the compulsions are only eating with one hand, scrubbing with bleach, controlling all the cleaning in the house, not going to public spaces etc.
OCD is not stacking books in order.
Interestingly the second example I supplied here was suggested for NHS CBT. The peer group of parents laughed and said that would take years. She was referred in a week, One person in particular rather than be sympathetic was outraged as she said her daughter was depressed and was "in bed a lot" - when she wasn't she seemed to have a rather active social life. She was on meds though "so must ne really ill" - The OCD parents were questioned as to if they were claiming PIP - something they had not heard of or gave a fuck about. Oddly depressed child on meds who partied every weekend was very interested in PIP and had been trying to claim.
I know people say that sometimes they check every door in the house is locked so have OCD. They might if they have an obsession trigger - the one I am aware of is that the person would believe unless they checked 10 times they would be kidnapped and then sold into a sex slave ring
I remain in the majority of cases very cyncial.
Exactly. Its a spectrum and is why its so hard to say someone either "has it" or doesn'tWell, yeah, but as Nicksar has said, there is a whole spectrum and different levels.
I went out with a girl who had OCD for three years, so do know quite a bit about it all.
Yeah. True.Exactly. Its a spectrum and is why its so hard to say someone either "has it" or doesn't
Yeah. True.
Never again must loved ones in hospitals and homes be denied visits from relatives and friends, that was disgusting, unnecessary and in many cases I suspect hastened their end.The other thing of course that has contributed to this issue amongst younger people was the selfish stupid decision made in Covid to isolate people. Never again must lockdowns happen
I think we've all got a touch of something, to be honest, i know I probably have. In infants school (so 73/74 yime) I remember this kid who was a right fucking nightmare. Unruly, misbehaved, borderline violent to teachers. At the time we all thought of him as The Psycho, but nowadays he would get help and with a bit more understanding be just another one of our classmates. Hope he was OK.
Well..hmm..As I say it’s the difference between influenza and a cold
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