'Neurodiversity' (3 Viewers)

[Mcbean]

Yeah, but I can't even do simple tasks sometimes. My missus has shown me about 20-30 times how to put the dogs' harnesses on and then how to attach their harnesses in their car.

I lose her within about 12 seconds of the conversation. If it's insert tab A into tab B and then loop tab B around tab C, I am still stuck on insert A into B. Once I feel a little unsure on something, I get stuck at that point and can't think of anything else past that point.

I lost a job at Sainsbury's, because they said to unstack a shelf and clean the shelf and stack the tins from the shelf back up again and I just was simply unable to do it. Every time I tried there were either too many rows, or not enough rows, or I hadn't stacked them deep enough, so I was always left with loads of tins at the end.

At that point you get called stupid by your supervisor. I never, ever had a well paid job and was considered not clever enough for uni.

So when you hear stuff like that and then you know struggled at school too and couldn't even read a book, you do indeed believe yourself to be dumb.

If I can control things myself, I am fine. Over my life, I formed my own football team and my own youth theatre group and my own band and my own little film company and theatre company and when it was me, just me in control, I was absolutely fine.

I now have my own radio show. When they dictate to me and I have to adhere to the rules and do things a certain way, i.e. their way, I really struggle.

When I am left to my own devices I am fine.

Wish I knew way back when what I know now, but there just wasn't the pathway to diagnosis around back then.

Glad so many people can get help these days.

Luckily you have CCFC for order

 

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[Otis]

Luckily you have CCFC for order

Coventry City are a bit like my brain...

All over the place.

 

[duffer]

Yeah, but I can't even do simple tasks sometimes. My missus has shown me about 20-30 times how to put the dogs' harnesses on and then how to attach their harnesses in their car.

I lose her within about 12 seconds of the conversation. If it's insert tab A into tab B and then loop tab B around tab C, I am still stuck on insert A into B. Once I feel a little unsure on something, I get stuck at that point and can't think of anything else past that point.

I lost a job at Sainsbury's, because they said to unstack a shelf and clean the shelf and stack the tins from the shelf back up again and I just was simply unable to do it. Every time I tried there were either too many rows, or not enough rows, or I hadn't stacked them deep enough, so I was always left with loads of tins at the end.

At that point you get called stupid by your supervisor. I never, ever had a well paid job and was considered not clever enough for uni.

So when you hear stuff like that and then you know struggled at school too and couldn't even read a book, you do indeed believe yourself to be dumb.

If I can control things myself, I am fine. Over my life, I formed my own football team and my own youth theatre group and my own band and my own little film company and theatre company and when it was me, just me in control, I was absolutely fine.

I now have my own radio show. When they dictate to me and I have to adhere to the rules and do things a certain way, i.e. their way, I really struggle.

When I am left to my own devices I am fine.

Wish I knew way back when what I know now, but there just wasn't the pathway to diagnosis around back then.

Glad so many people can get help these days.

Probably the most elegant explanation of neuro diversity that I've ever read.

One thing is absolutely obvious mate, you're not stupid.

This "life" thing, it's a team sport. None of us can make it on our own, and we've all got different skills. Not better, not worse, just different. That's how teams work.

My skill is writing bollocks and irritating people. It's a bit of an oversubscribed niche hereabouts, but I feel it still has value.

 

[Otis]

Probably the most elegant explanation of neuro diversity that I've ever read.

One thing is absolutely obvious mate, you're not stupid.

This "life" thing, it's a team sport. None of us can make it on our own, and we've all got different skills. Not better, not worse, just different. That's how teams work.

My skill is writing bollocks and irritating people. It's a bit of an oversubscribed niche hereabouts, but I feel it still has value.

Yeah, to be honest, I haven't believed I am thick, just been led to understand and been conditioned to feel that.

Just never seen myself as being intelligent

 

[rob9872]

If I can control things myself, I am fine. Over my life, I formed my own football team and my own youth theatre group and my own band and my own little film company and theatre company and when it was me, just me in control, I was absolutely fine.

 

[rob9872]

Probably the most elegant explanation of neuro diversity that I've ever read.

One thing is absolutely obvious mate, you're not stupid.

This "life" thing, it's a team sport. None of us can make it on our own, and we've all got different skills. Not better, not worse, just different. That's how teams work.

My skill is writing bollocks and irritating people. It's a bit of an oversubscribed niche hereabouts, but I feel it still has value.

I genuinely believe that being 'thick' is underrated. It must be amazing living life with simple expectations, in blissful ignorance to what's going on around you and having no worldly distractions. A bit of a selfish view perhaps, but I reckon they'd be super happy almost all of the time.

 

[Captain Dart]

Is that a daily allowance of breasts?

 

[Otis]

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Yes.

I am just slightly taller than that little fella though.

 

[CCFCSteve]

I’m no expert but it’s clear that everyone's somewhere on the spectrum…as has been demonstrated by this thread ! I guess incidents, lifestyle choices and life in general can also trigger a worsening of certain conditions or issues at various points

Most genuine people suffering from adhd, ocd, anxiety etc just want understanding and support. Like many have said, if you know if you have a condition you can tailor your life accordingly. A lot of these conditions will get better or worse at various times throughout life so will need to be managed

Unfortunately we have turned into a society that just gives people stuff for problems (cash, exemptions, labels, medication etc). This is what the ‘grifters’ want and I’d argue possibly the worst thing you can give many of the younger generation* when they just need that support, understanding and to know that a lot of these issues for a large majority of people are normal and should be no barrier to living a normal, productive, happy life


*obviously there’s extreme cases where people need medication, active professional support etc throughout their life

 

[Otis]

Hopefully we can all judge people a little less too. There can indeed be a reason for actions, that although makes no sense to us, is central to that person's thinking.

I just picked up on the fans leaving games early question. Was thinking about that this morning. It's bandied about for years on here and some have said you are not a real supporter if you leave a game early. Especially if it's a draw and we are pushing for an equaliser etc

I never used to leave early and when I didn't, I wondered why people did that too, but then when I suddenly developed this compulsion to leave early myself, I got it. I could understand better. Can't remember when it started, but it was at the new stadium .

For some, I guess the problem can be the anxiety it can bring when you're in a huge throng of people, squashed like sardines and all trying to get out the ground at the same time . Crowds can be scary. For some, they may just have other places to be. For some they just have this overwhelming compulsion to leave, as irrational as that may seem.

We all have stuff. My missus, weirdly, has a, problem with escalators. But only going up an escalator. Not down. She can go down an escalator without problem, which I do find odd. If I had any fear, it would be of tumbling down an escalator, not falling up one. But just shows how different we all are and the phobias we have etc.

I have a problem with lifts, but that's just because they are enclosed spaces with no windows.

I just think we are all different and can all show what would be deemed as irrational traits at times.

 

[Grendel]

It’s clear labels are thrown around to create associative conditions to normal behaviours.

There is a general lack of understanding what conditions like OCD really mean

 

[nicksar]

I wrote a fairly long post on this thread the other night and decided to delete it (too much personal information).
Anyway i will write a little bit about one of my Sons who is now in his mid 40's.
As a toddler he clearly had some development issues which were brought to our attention initially by the "health visitor", what followed was a long and arduous journey of consultations and assessments...he started "school" in a special unit at age 3 to help give him a head start prior to going into mainstream infant school,we did our own research and felt he was Autistic but could never get a diagnosis by any health professionals in Coventry.
Eventually we managed to get him assessed by a professor at Nottingham university (Elizabeth Newsome) who was recognised as an expert in Autism spectrum disorder... first day we met her she told us "Coventry is an Autism free zone" because a diagnosis means the education authority will have to provide the correct educational needs and Coventry (along with other Cities would not do that at that point in time).
He is severely Autistic and by his teens also started to develop "schizo affective" disorder which is very common in youngsters at the high end of the Autism spectrum....safe to say it broke my heart when at age 15 he had to go in to an adolescent phyciatric unit....it also led to the eventual break up of my first marriage.
He lives in small unit of two with another man with very similar problems and receives amazing care and support,I see him every week without fail and I'm eternally grateful that we live in a society that provides for people such as my Son .
For what it's worth in his own way he's very happy.
Thanks for reading .

 

[Otis]

I wrote a fairly long post on this thread the other night and decided to delete it (too much personal information).
Anyway i will write a little bit about one of my Sons who is now in his mid 40's.
As a toddler he clearly had some development issues which were brought to our attention initially by the "health visitor", what followed was a long and arduous journey of consultations and assessments...he started "school" in a special unit at age 3 to help give him a head start prior to going into mainstream infant school,we did our own research and felt he was Autistic but could never get a diagnosis by any health professionals in Coventry.
Eventually we managed to get him assessed by a professor at Nottingham university (Elizabeth Newsome) who was recognised as an expert in Autism spectrum disorder... first day we met her she told us "Coventry is an Autism free zone" because a diagnosis means the education authority will have to provide the correct educational needs and Coventry (along with other Cities would not do that at that point in time).
He is severely Autistic and by his teens also started to develop "schizo affective" disorder which is very common in youngsters at the high end of the Autism spectrum....safe to say it broke my heart when at age 15 he had to go in to an adolescent phyciatric unit....it also led to the eventual break up of my first marriage.
He lives in small unit of two with another man with very similar problems and receives amazing care and support,I see him every week without fail and I'm eternally grateful that we live in a society that provides for people such as my Son .
For what it's worth in his own way he's very happy.
Thanks for reading .

Thanks for sharing, Nick. Much appreciated.