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It's just really the medication to quieten my brain. I've come to terms with the fact I'm a bell end and sadly I can't fall back on diagnosis for an excuse.
It's just really the medication to quieten my brain. I've come to terms with the fact I'm a bell end and sadly I can't fall back on diagnosis for an excuse.Best of luck with it, truly. I hope you find the answers you're looking for!
Bet he was and is absolutely exhausted masking itI remember my dad finally telling us all several years ago that he had been diagnosed with several things and some of it had been so hard for him to deal with (OCD) All his life.
It shocked me as i had no idea and i remember saying to my step mum that my dad couldnt have all these things as he was normal ... her response was pretty blunt .. she said yes he is normal .. to you .
Made me realise tbh
Yea , since he " came out " i notice so much more .. but i reckon its more to do with the fact hes stopped masking around usBet he was and is absolutely exhausted masking it
Plus you are probably more educated on it now so know the signs.Yea , since he " came out " i notice so much more .. but i reckon its more to do with the fact hes stopped masking around us
Confessional for me.Is this thread for sympathy or is it being used as a confessional.
There are too many distractions in life now but I wouldn't want to go back to the 1960's when Sundays were a drag because there was nothing to do.
I didn’t know the GP could diagnose neurodiversity. I thought it was just a psychiatristPlus you are probably more educated on it now so know the signs.
I do think the stereotypes mislead a bit, people have a naughty kid so they instantly shout ADHD and then that's assumed what it is.
The waiting list etc is a bit of a joke, I do think they should have a "do you want to claim benefits if you are diagnosed" and if people say yes they go to the bottom of the queue and if they say no then they can't for x years. They should also ask "what are you doing to help yourself" and "what will you do to help yourself if diagnosed".
The questions that gp asks are a bit basic and high level. The actual assessment does go much more in depth.
Oh I mean for them to refer. GP just gets you to fill a form with basic questions.I didn’t know the GP could diagnose neurodiversity. I thought it was just a psychiatrist
I worked at Birmingham Airport for a couple of years up until last summer and the amount of people who used to completely cheat the system and get a sunflower lanyard just to skip the security queue and be first on the plane was ridiculous, once saw the mother of one family flashing her lanyard about going 'told you it would work' just after security
Unfortunately like many things in life it is a genuine concern/issue that has been hijacked by a select few to completely take the piss to detriment of the people who actually need the support
Knew the Leamington and Warwick lot wouldn't pass up the chance to get first in the queue for ticketsI'm an undiagnosed complete fekkin fruitcake. ADHD possibly, certainly OCD and a touch of tourettes (not just the sweary kind, a few weird traits). Add into the mix diabetes, poor eyesight, overweight, fused ankle from a football injury and an addictive personality and its not really a surprise I'm a nutcase. Must be an earner in it somewhere, but tbh I'm too lazy to bother with it.
I do agree with you (and we're supposed to be part of the woke leftie brigade!)Anybody else think this is getting a bit much now? Humans are different yet every subtle difference is being badged. Employers now embracing it and then you're potentially at risk of not recognising somebody being ND.
I know around here there are 28k people on the list for an ADHD assessment. People complete a questionnaire that asks things like do they ever get distracted from a boring task which then suggests they have an ADHD assessment.
I think a lot of what people perceive as potential ADHD traits are in reality just the consequences of having a smart phone.
Anybody else think this is getting a bit much now? Humans are different yet every subtle difference is being badged. Employers now embracing it and then you're potentially at risk of not recognising somebody being ND.
I know around here there are 28k people on the list for an ADHD assessment. People complete a questionnaire that asks things like do they ever get distracted from a boring task which then suggests they have an ADHD assessment.
I think a lot of what people perceive as potential ADHD traits are in reality just the consequences of having a smart phone.
Yep agree with this. Been tinkering with my meds for 10 years and its only the last year that I've found the perfect one.Hope this is helpful for anyone considering medication...
I've found it's a bit like putting on a suit of armour- it protects me from stuff but it's heavy, and limits what I can do or what I feel.
Another analogy would be if you think of your moods/wellbeing as a graph, you have peaks and troughs. Medication can level this off, you you are constantly between 4-6 out of ten*. If you are really struggling when the 1s and 2s hit, this may be a good trade off, at least for a time.
Don't be afraid to go back to your GP and tinker with the dose, or even type of meds. It takes a while for them to kick in. I've had to go back and ask for a higher dosage and continual prescription for what was meant to be a short term, low dose stabilisation thing, but it's working for me at the moment.
That said, it doesn't have to be a permanent thing if that's a worry. A lot of people take them for a period, are able to get their head around whatever is happening and/or make some adjustments to their life (or get others to do so) and can then come off. If you need to go back onto meds later on, that's in no way a failure- you wouldn't think twice about cracking open the cough syrup again if you felt you needed it.
*Funnily enough, one of the things that cuts through the fog for me is the City. I think those neuro pathways are so deeply furrowed that the meds can't stop the big reactions when we win or lose. Not been a great couple of months on that front!
That's almost spot-on.People are unique, just like everyone else....
I do the straightening thing too. Even do it in shops and supermarkets. Always rearranging their stock and shelves for them, putting stuff back in the right place and lining things up properly.I am definitely ocd compared to my wife - she takes no notice when I straighten things - put things in the bin - load the dishwasher - put items away
We have a big island in the kitchen I have tried to resist when she leaves something on there - sometime two days goes past
luckily she’s not allowed in the garage !
I do think a lot of stuff around anxiety, OCD and the like is due to our ancestors’ behaviour and natural.Right this is probably going to be quite a long rambling thing about OCD, apologies in advance, hopefully a point emerges at the end...
Some posters have mentioned diagnosis/labelling, and the issues with OCD being a bit of a spectrum, and maybe not being able to acknowledge it because theirs isn't at the 10 hours of hand washing full on debilitating level.
An alternative term that I've found helpful to get my head round it is 'ritual behaviour'. So what is a ritual?
(Cut Scene- Cov, 10,000BC).
Our mutual great x100 grandparents Coben and Babba, and their extended tribe, have found a lovely spot by a lake in the Forest of Arden. There are streams and fish are plentiful, so they decide to stop scratching around for nuts and deer across the forest, and settle here, by Babba's lake. With practice, they soon get so good at fishing that they only need to fish a couple of days a week. Grandad Coben starts to get bored, and he also misses his roast vension dinner on the Sun's Day. So he picks up his spear again, and heads off into the woods.
After trekking around for a bit, he spots some deer in a clearing on top of a hill (which he dubs 'Hill Top'). He makes a kill and takes it back to the village. A few days later he tries his luck again, but the deer are spooked and not there. After some trial and error, he finds that if he waits for two turns of the moon between hunting, there is always deer about there. Later, he starts taking his little grandson Willen with him, and puts markers on the trees and rocks to mark the path for him.
(fast forward 500 years).
Coben's Tribe are now living on The Folk's Hill, and have a lovely herd of cattle to sustain them, so don't need to hunt deer any more. However, it has been passed down the generations from Willen onwards that it is vital to follow the old path to Hilltop on certain times of the year. They put up a set of stones that align with the hill and sun to mark these times, and set up a post with a deer's skull on Hill Top. Eventually the skull keeps blowing off, but people have carved deer head graffiti on the post, and they elaborate the carvings to make a great totem pole.
So far, this ritual, that sprang out of a useful survival practice, has lost it's meaning and purpose- but is not harmful, and indeed has picked up new meaning as a way of connecting the tribe and marking the seasons. However, the tribe then come into conflict with a group of invaders. It is clear there is going to be a great battle, but this falls on the day of the procession to the deer pole. The tribe deliberates, but decides that it is too dangerous to risk the Wrath of Coben, so they head to worship as usual. The invaders are less picky, and massacre the tribe around their totem. The ritual has become harmful.
The invaders have no concept of what the totem means, but they have seen its power over the Cobentribe (whose name and customs they slowly adapt) and so allow it to stay, eventually beginning to visit it themselves to show their separate identity from their neighbours, such as the Horse Botherers to the East.
Finally, Christianity arrives, and The Church demolishes the Totem, smashes the sacred stones, and uses them to build a great church on Hill Top. The people still get to fulfil the ritual urge to visit the sacred place at certain times of the year, and even in the 21st Century people are still following in the footsteps of Coben, and continuing his ritual.
So, ritual behaviour is ingrained in us as a useful survival processing skill, but we are no longer hunter gatherers whose lives are timed to the seasons and the patterns of crops or game. Our brain can internalise and accelerate that process (especially when faced with the complexity and nonsense of the modern world), and so what was a quite sensible idea that helped us out of a particular situation, can quickly mushroom into a problem.
Knowing why it is happening can be helpful though, I find, and it is also good (at least for me) to lean into some behaviour, and accept it and make time for it.
So for example, most people do the quick 'keys, wallet, phone' pat down before leaving the house. Makes sense, takes no time, no problem. Mine is a bit more elaborate, but it's still checking useful stuff so I accept it and plan it into my day. What isn't helpful is getting half way to work, and then having to turn around in the pissing rain to triple check I locked the front door. This is a ritual I needed to stop, so I'm really strict with myself to check the door once when I leave, consciously say to myself 'It's locked', and then crack on. But, I understand how I have got to that point, what the underlying fear or problem was, and that makes it easier to manage and contain it.
If you read all that, I hope that made some vague sort of sense!
much more succinctly put!I do think a lot of stuff around anxiety, OCD and the like is due to our ancestors’ behaviour and natural.
I've been reading your amusing posts on SBT and GMK for many years Otis and I can safely say you're many things but 'thick' you most certainly are notI myself have never been diagnosed and never been to the GP.
As I say, I have just always been this way and always just assumed I was thick.
It's a tricky one. The problem is we don't seem to be able to cope with things that are a sliding scale. The health service, schools, employers etc can cope with putting someone in a box and providing accordingly, not so much when you bring in so many variables.Anybody else think this is getting a bit much now? Humans are different yet every subtle difference is being badged. Employers now embracing it and then you're potentially at risk of not recognising somebody being ND.
I know around here there are 28k people on the list for an ADHD assessment. People complete a questionnaire that asks things like do they ever get distracted from a boring task which then suggests they have an ADHD assessment.
I think a lot of what people perceive as potential ADHD traits are in reality just the consequences of having a smart phone.
Certainly wouldn't label you thick from what I know of you on here.I myself have never been diagnosed and never been to the GP.
As I say, I have just always been this way and always just assumed I was thick.
Is that a daily allowance of breasts?Titration
Yeah, but I can't even do simple tasks sometimes. My missus has shown me about 20-30 times how to put the dogs' harnesses on and then how to attach their harnesses in their car.Certainly wouldn't label you thick from what I know of you on here.
I'm in the same boat. I've done 101 online tests in recent years that all score pretty highly but the time & expense of going further seems pretty pointless.
When I looked into it you had pretty much zero chance of getting formally assessed by the NHS as an adult, there's insane waiting lists. So your only real option is a private test to confirm what you already know and then what? Fair enough if you're at a point where you want medication for something but I don't feel I'm there and my experiences with adult mental health services when dealing with them for stress, anxiety and depression don't exactly inspire me with hope that anything of use would be done.
Kind of feels like I've got this far so just keep going rather than taking away limited resources from someone who needs it more.
Looking back I can see clear signs from around the age of 8 or 9 that weren't pick up on because they just weren't back then. Do sometimes wonder how life would have been different if those things had been picked up and dealt with early on.
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