Nazanin Radcliffe (1 Viewer)

Grendel · Apr 27, 2021

I don’t know if it’s just me but this really is a scandal

This person clearly is a pawn in a game for the Iran government and the lack of serious response from the U.K. government is shameful

I also don’t want this to develop either into some argument about Johnson and his time as Foreign Secretary - no one on either side of the political divide seems to care.

The general public don’t seem to care. This is really a hostage situation and no one does anything. It’s a disgrace.

skybluetony176 · Apr 27, 2021

Grendel said:
I don’t know if it’s just me but this really is a scandal

This person clearly is a pawn in a game for the Iran government and the lack of serious response from the U.K. government is shameful

I also don’t want this to develop either into some argument about Johnson and his time as Foreign Secretary - no one on either side of the political divide seems to care.

The general public don’t seem to care. This is really a hostage situation and no one does anything. It’s a disgrace.

What do you expect the opposition to do? Lisa Nandy has issued a statement as shadow foreign secretary actually using much of the same language you have and called for the foreign secretary to explain what they intend to do to address this. Not sure what more the opposition can do.

clint van damme · Apr 28, 2021

I feel really sorry for her and her family.
Suffering terribly, both mentally and physically apparently.

Its ok saying it shouldn't turn in t an argument about Johnson but that's a bit like saying let's discuss our relegation to league 2 but I don't want it to turn into an argument about Mowbray.

I can't believe there isnt someing that can be done to secure her release. I really fear for her if she has to serve the entirety of this extra year.

Deleted member 5849 · Apr 28, 2021

clint van damme said:
. I really fear for her if she has to serve the entirety of this extra year.

And what random charge will they come up with next?

And yes, a certain person managed a rare feat of diplomacy in making things far worse... surely on a personal level that therefore merits doubling, trebling efforts to make it right.

Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon · Apr 28, 2021

It seems there are a few different cases and Nazanin Radcliff isn't the only one being let down. I can't imagine what this is doing to the husband and daughter, the last time i saw him on tv i thought he looked terribly aged in comparison to a picture taken prior to her kidnapping, the stress must be intolerable. I understand Iran are doing this for leverage over a huge sum of money, what a vile way to conduct business.

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 28, 2021

Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon said:
It seems there are a few different cases and Nazanin Radcliff isn't the only one being let down. I can't imagine what this is doing to the husband and daughter, the last time i saw him on tv i thought he looked terribly aged in comparison to a picture taken prior to her kidnapping, the stress must be intolerable. I understand Iran are doing this for leverage over a huge sum of money, what a vile way to conduct business.

The country is in economic ruin in large part down to the American sanctions applied by Trump, add in COVID and it’s a regime desperately trying to get money in from anywhere by whatever means.

Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon · Apr 28, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
The country is in economic ruin in large part down to the American sanctions applied by Trump, add in COVID and it’s a regime desperately trying to get money in from anywhere by whatever means.

Yes, i'd presume that desperation is probably a big factor in our apparent lack of leverage over them too. I don't really have any idea of how it could be fixed to be honest, total shitshow of a situation.

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 28, 2021

Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon said:
Yes, i'd presume that desperation is probably a big factor in our apparent lack of leverage over them too. I don't really have any idea of how it could be fixed to be honest, total shitshow of a situation.

It will probably take a large bribe to be honest.

shmmeee · Apr 28, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
It will probably take a large bribe to be honest.

The one thing you’d think Johnson would be good at sorting out.

Deleted member 5849 · Apr 28, 2021

shmmeee said:
The one thing you’d think Johnson would be good at sorting out.

In all seriousness, the policy over a number of years of ot negotiating with terrorists etc. is probably the right one - don't want to encourage more. Maybe a relaxation of US policy towards Iran will help, however...

Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon · Apr 28, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
It will probably take a large bribe to be honest.

Which wouldn't be sanctioned by our more powerful allies you'd have to presume. Meanwhile the poor fuckers in the middle languish in Iranian jails.

skybluetony176 · Apr 28, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
It will probably take a large bribe to be honest.

Send them that owl lamp sitting in No.10

skybluetony176 · Apr 28, 2021

Apparently the PM didn’t even arrange for British officials to be present at her latest court case. How can you not make this about Boris?

Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon · Apr 28, 2021

skybluetony176 said:
Apparently the PM didn’t even arrange for British officials to be present at her latest court case. How can you not make this about Boris?

I read about that, seemed to be on the basis that a presence there would antagonise the Iranians but they seem pretty angry already to be honest.

wingy · Apr 28, 2021

If it's really about the £400 M paid for tanks they never received then pay them back the money .
Not sure it's that though.
The Aussies seem to have gotten some of theirs home?

Grendel · Apr 28, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
The country is in economic ruin in large part down to the American sanctions applied by Trump, add in COVID and it’s a regime desperately trying to get money in from anywhere by whatever means.

She was arrested before Trump came to office

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 28, 2021

Grendel said:
She was arrested before Trump came to office

Yes, but the changing dynamics mean they now have added reason to hold on to her

Grendel · Apr 28, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Yes, but the changing dynamics mean they now have added reason to hold on to her

Not really it’s a hostage situation

Terry Gibson's perm · Apr 28, 2021

I hear her name mentioned on the news but why was she in the country?

skybluetony176 · Apr 28, 2021

Terry Gibson's perm said:
I hear her name mentioned on the news but why was she in the country?

Visiting family. It’s the country of her birth IIRC.

Johnnythespider · Apr 28, 2021

Have we got anyone we can exchange for her, Johnson maybe. I feel for her family and wonder if there is any way she could be rescued.

robbiekeane · Apr 28, 2021

Grendel said:
I also don’t want this to develop either into some argument about Johnson and his time as Foreign Secretary - no one on either side of the political divide seems to care.

skybluetony176 said:
What do you expect the opposition to do? Lisa Nandy has issued a statement as shadow foreign secretary actually using much of the same language you have and called for the foreign secretary to explain what they intend to do to address this. Not sure what more the opposition can do.

Sigh.

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 28, 2021

Grendel said:
Not really it’s a hostage situation

Yes but the stakes have increased since it began for a variety of reasons.

skybluetony176 · Apr 28, 2021

robbiekeane said:
Sigh.

You okay hun?

fatso · Apr 28, 2021

I have a feeling we havnt got a bloody clue what's happening in diplomatic circles.

If Terry Waite's situation is anything to go by, it could take a hell of a long time to get to a conclusion.

wingy · Apr 28, 2021

fatso said:
I have a feeling we havnt got a bloody clue what's happening in diplomatic circles.

If Terry Waite's situation is anything to go by, it could take a hell of a long time to get to a conclusion.

God that is a grim thought.

skybluetony176 · Apr 28, 2021

fatso said:
I have a feeling we havnt got a bloody clue what's happening in diplomatic circles.

If Terry Waite's situation is anything to go by, it could take a hell of a long time to get to a conclusion.

Brian Keenans book An evil cradling is a harrowing read.

Sky Blue Pete · May 3, 2021

Been released or so the rumour says. £400m paid

skybluetony176 · May 3, 2021

Sky Blue Pete said:
Been released or so the rumour says. £400m paid

Or 2 Downing Street flat refurbishments.

On a serious note though I hope this is true.

(Edit) my mistake, just clocked it’s millions, thought I seen thousands for some reason when I initially read it.

skybluetony176 · May 3, 2021

Some doubts on this story being true now. Bad news if that’s the case.

Macca · May 4, 2021

I’m sure the Iranians will really welcome being told what to do by us...and laugh in our faces

skybluetony176 · May 4, 2021

The plot thickens. Apparently the £400M isn’t a ransom in the normal sense it’s £400M we legally owe them under international law. It doesn’t justify them using her as a bargaining chip but two wrongs don’t make a right.
The back story is that we took a £400M order for tanks of the shah of Iran, the tanks were sat at Southampton docks about to be loaded when the Shah was overthrown in the revolution, the head of the Iranian army who was loyal to the Shah said don’t send the tanks and hold the money and to this day the money is still being held in a government bank account somewhere. Apparently we then sold the tanks to Saddam someone.

Grendel · Mar 15, 2022

At last some hope - news she has her uk passport returned but as yet unconfirmed

Otis · Mar 15, 2022

Grendel said:
At last some hope - news she has her uk passport returned but as yet unconfirmed

fernandopartridge · Mar 15, 2022

Grendel said:
At last some hope - news she has her uk passport returned but as yet unconfirmed

Presume this is a condition for some relief from of the sanctions they are currently under

Nazanin Radcliffe (1 Viewer)

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Deleted member 5849

Guest

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Deleted member 5849

Guest

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Users who are viewing this thread

Privacy & Transparency

Privacy & Transparency