Nazanin Radcliffe (1 Viewer)

[Grendel]

I don’t know if it’s just me but this really is a scandal

This person clearly is a pawn in a game for the Iran government and the lack of serious response from the U.K. government is shameful

I also don’t want this to develop either into some argument about Johnson and his time as Foreign Secretary - no one on either side of the political divide seems to care.

The general public don’t seem to care. This is really a hostage situation and no one does anything. It’s a disgrace.

 

[skybluetony176]

I don’t know if it’s just me but this really is a scandal

This person clearly is a pawn in a game for the Iran government and the lack of serious response from the U.K. government is shameful

I also don’t want this to develop either into some argument about Johnson and his time as Foreign Secretary - no one on either side of the political divide seems to care.

The general public don’t seem to care. This is really a hostage situation and no one does anything. It’s a disgrace.

What do you expect the opposition to do? Lisa Nandy has issued a statement as shadow foreign secretary actually using much of the same language you have and called for the foreign secretary to explain what they intend to do to address this. Not sure what more the opposition can do.

 

[clint van damme]

I feel really sorry for her and her family.
Suffering terribly, both mentally and physically apparently.

Its ok saying it shouldn't turn in t an argument about Johnson but that's a bit like saying let's discuss our relegation to league 2 but I don't want it to turn into an argument about Mowbray.

I can't believe there isnt someing that can be done to secure her release. I really fear for her if she has to serve the entirety of this extra year.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

. I really fear for her if she has to serve the entirety of this extra year.

And what random charge will they come up with next?

And yes, a certain person managed a rare feat of diplomacy in making things far worse... surely on a personal level that therefore merits doubling, trebling efforts to make it right.

 

[Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon]

It seems there are a few different cases and Nazanin Radcliff isn't the only one being let down. I can't imagine what this is doing to the husband and daughter, the last time i saw him on tv i thought he looked terribly aged in comparison to a picture taken prior to her kidnapping, the stress must be intolerable. I understand Iran are doing this for leverage over a huge sum of money, what a vile way to conduct business.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It seems there are a few different cases and Nazanin Radcliff isn't the only one being let down. I can't imagine what this is doing to the husband and daughter, the last time i saw him on tv i thought he looked terribly aged in comparison to a picture taken prior to her kidnapping, the stress must be intolerable. I understand Iran are doing this for leverage over a huge sum of money, what a vile way to conduct business.

The country is in economic ruin in large part down to the American sanctions applied by Trump, add in COVID and it’s a regime desperately trying to get money in from anywhere by whatever means.

 

[Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon]

The country is in economic ruin in large part down to the American sanctions applied by Trump, add in COVID and it’s a regime desperately trying to get money in from anywhere by whatever means.

Yes, i'd presume that desperation is probably a big factor in our apparent lack of leverage over them too. I don't really have any idea of how it could be fixed to be honest, total shitshow of a situation.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yes, i'd presume that desperation is probably a big factor in our apparent lack of leverage over them too. I don't really have any idea of how it could be fixed to be honest, total shitshow of a situation.

It will probably take a large bribe to be honest.

 

[shmmeee]

It will probably take a large bribe to be honest.

The one thing you’d think Johnson would be good at sorting out.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

The one thing you’d think Johnson would be good at sorting out.

In all seriousness, the policy over a number of years of ot negotiating with terrorists etc. is probably the right one - don't want to encourage more. Maybe a relaxation of US policy towards Iran will help, however...

 

[Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon]

It will probably take a large bribe to be honest.

Which wouldn't be sanctioned by our more powerful allies you'd have to presume. Meanwhile the poor fuckers in the middle languish in Iranian jails.

 

[skybluetony176]

It will probably take a large bribe to be honest.

Send them that owl lamp sitting in No.10

 

[skybluetony176]

Apparently the PM didn’t even arrange for British officials to be present at her latest court case. How can you not make this about Boris?

 

[Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon]

Apparently the PM didn’t even arrange for British officials to be present at her latest court case. How can you not make this about Boris?

I read about that, seemed to be on the basis that a presence there would antagonise the Iranians but they seem pretty angry already to be honest.

 

[wingy]

If it's really about the £400 M paid for tanks they never received then pay them back the money .
Not sure it's that though.
The Aussies seem to have gotten some of theirs home?

 

[Grendel]

The country is in economic ruin in large part down to the American sanctions applied by Trump, add in COVID and it’s a regime desperately trying to get money in from anywhere by whatever means.

She was arrested before Trump came to office

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

She was arrested before Trump came to office

Yes, but the changing dynamics mean they now have added reason to hold on to her

 

[Grendel]

Yes, but the changing dynamics mean they now have added reason to hold on to her

Not really it’s a hostage situation

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

I hear her name mentioned on the news but why was she in the country?

 

[skybluetony176]

I hear her name mentioned on the news but why was she in the country?

Visiting family. It’s the country of her birth IIRC.

 

[Johnnythespider]

Have we got anyone we can exchange for her, Johnson maybe. I feel for her family and wonder if there is any way she could be rescued.

 

[robbiekeane]

I also don’t want this to develop either into some argument about Johnson and his time as Foreign Secretary - no one on either side of the political divide seems to care.

What do you expect the opposition to do? Lisa Nandy has issued a statement as shadow foreign secretary actually using much of the same language you have and called for the foreign secretary to explain what they intend to do to address this. Not sure what more the opposition can do.

Sigh.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Not really it’s a hostage situation

Yes but the stakes have increased since it began for a variety of reasons.

 

[skybluetony176]

Sigh.

You okay hun?

 

[fatso]

I have a feeling we havnt got a bloody clue what's happening in diplomatic circles.

If Terry Waite's situation is anything to go by, it could take a hell of a long time to get to a conclusion.

 

[wingy]

I have a feeling we havnt got a bloody clue what's happening in diplomatic circles.

If Terry Waite's situation is anything to go by, it could take a hell of a long time to get to a conclusion.

God that is a grim thought.

 

[skybluetony176]

I have a feeling we havnt got a bloody clue what's happening in diplomatic circles.

If Terry Waite's situation is anything to go by, it could take a hell of a long time to get to a conclusion.

Brian Keenans book An evil cradling is a harrowing read.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Been released or so the rumour says. £400m paid

 

[skybluetony176]

Been released or so the rumour says. £400m paid

Or 2 Downing Street flat refurbishments.

On a serious note though I hope this is true.

(Edit) my mistake, just clocked it’s millions, thought I seen thousands for some reason when I initially read it.

 

[skybluetony176]

Some doubts on this story being true now. Bad news if that’s the case.

 

[Macca]

I’m sure the Iranians will really welcome being told what to do by us...and laugh in our faces

 

[skybluetony176]

The plot thickens. Apparently the £400M isn’t a ransom in the normal sense it’s £400M we legally owe them under international law. It doesn’t justify them using her as a bargaining chip but two wrongs don’t make a right.
The back story is that we took a £400M order for tanks of the shah of Iran, the tanks were sat at Southampton docks about to be loaded when the Shah was overthrown in the revolution, the head of the Iranian army who was loyal to the Shah said don’t send the tanks and hold the money and to this day the money is still being held in a government bank account somewhere. Apparently we then sold the tanks to Saddam someone.

 

[Grendel]

At last some hope - news she has her uk passport returned but as yet unconfirmed

 

[Otis]

At last some hope - news she has her uk passport returned but as yet unconfirmed

 

[fernandopartridge]

At last some hope - news she has her uk passport returned but as yet unconfirmed

Presume this is a condition for some relief from of the sanctions they are currently under