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  • Thread starter Alan Dugdales Moustache
  • Start date Nov 13, 2021
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Ian1779

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  • Nov 17, 2021
  • #246
Silenced Sloth said:
Famous for terror attacks the ex-pats tbf.

I actually thought I saw a woman and child on the photos of this week’s arrivals to the UK.
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Totally irrelevant but OK… that terminology as an example is deliberately misconstrued all the time.

If people travelling over on a dinghy claim asylum when they land then asylum seekers is the correct definition. What follows is down to the competence of the people in charge.
 

SkyBlueCharlie9

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2021
  • #247
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
We've all done that . We've all experienced the same . I went from a white area in Cov when I was 18 to living in London for the next decade.
So what ?
It's all very well calling bigotry and hatred out, but it depends how much hatred you use in the process. You can become the very epitomy of intolerance yourself if you want to ram your new found moral high ground down everyone's throat.
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A few comments on a forum is 'ramming it down people's throats'. Ha! You and Grendull seek to try and deliberately antagonise people for some bizarre self gratification.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2021
  • #248
SkyBlueCharlie9 said:
A few comments on a forum is 'ramming it down people's throats'. Ha! You and Grendull seek to try and deliberately antagonise people for some bizarre self gratification.
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No one asked you onto this thread . You chose to.
" I fucking hate people who swear" . That's you, that is !
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 18, 2021
  • #249
Grendel said:
The LSE top end estimates 900,000 illegals so it’s literally a drop in the ocean
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We’re talking about those coming over on boats and dinghies crossing the channel. You raise a good point though that it is a drop in the ocean compared to those entering legally and overstaying being far greater - it’s a bit different to someone risking their life to get to the UK.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2021
  • #250
Sick Boy said:
it’s a bit different to someone risking their life to get to the UK.
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From France

I know macron is a twat but it is it worth the risk?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 18, 2021
  • #251
Grendel said:
From France

I know macron is a twat but it is it worth the risk?
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They obviously seem to think so/are desperate enough to do so. If my family were in a country and I wasn’t I’d probably try and do the same.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2021
  • #252
Sick Boy said:
They obviously seem to think so/are desperate enough to do so. If my family were in a country and I wasn’t I’d probably try and do the same.
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You wouldn’t go through proper channels to gain official status?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 18, 2021
  • #253
Grendel said:
You wouldn’t go through proper channels to gain official status?
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In their situation, probably not, no.
Despite what some would have you believe, the UK is not a soft touch for those looking to claim asylum.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2021
  • #254
Sick Boy said:
In their situation, probably not, no.
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Their situation? Living in France?
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2021
  • #255
Grendel said:
You wouldn’t go through proper channels to gain official status?
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What’s the proper channels? How do you claim asylum in a country you’re not in?
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2021
  • #256
skybluetony176 said:
What’s the proper channel
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Duh.....its the English one obvs...
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2021
  • #257
Sick Boy said:
In their situation, probably not, no.
Despite what some would have you believe, the UK is not a soft touch for those looking to claim asylum.
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Clearly France is not fit to live in.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2021
  • #258
Sick Boy said:
In their situation, probably not, no.
Despite what some would have you believe, the UK is not a soft touch for those looking to claim asylum.
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What situation ? Having to stay in war torn France ?
 

1nilandwe...

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2021
  • #259
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Clearly France is not fit to live in.
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Perhaps they fancy their chances of getting a job in the UK more than they do in France, due to our reliance on seasonal workers, gig economy etc (no I don't know how this compares to the French economy)? Perhaps they have family here or contacts? Perhaps they speak more English than they do French? Perhaps the English system is easier to navigate? Perhaps as a population we are generally more accepting of asylum seekers?

Can you really think of no reasons why people might want to cross the channel apart from them rubbing their hands together and thinking the UK is a soft touch?
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Nov 18, 2021
  • #260
Silenced Sloth said:
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Like a well oiled machine. They all look happy, healthy and kitted out well. Yes, I'd wish to get away from such a hell hole.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2021
  • #261
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Like a well oiled machine. They all look happy, healthy and kitted out well. Yes, I'd wish to get away from such a hell hole.
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Again, I don’t know why anyone’s surprised the French authorities aren’t that bothered
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2021
  • #262
1nilandwe... said:
Perhaps they fancy their chances of getting a job in the UK more than they do in France, due to our reliance on seasonal workers, gig economy etc (no I don't know how this compares to the French economy)? Perhaps they have family here or contacts? Perhaps they speak more English than they do French? Perhaps the English system is easier to navigate? Perhaps as a population we are generally more accepting of asylum seekers?

Can you really think of no reasons why people might want to cross the channel apart from them rubbing their hands together and thinking the UK is a soft touch?
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Perhaps they should go through the official channels.
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2021
  • #263
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Again, I don’t know why anyone’s surprised the French authorities aren’t that bothered
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If I were them I'd do the same. The French want shot of them. I wouldn't be surprised if they've supplied the life jackets.
 
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1nilandwe...

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2021
  • #264
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Like a well oiled machine. They all look happy, healthy and kitted out well. Yes, I'd wish to get away from such a hell hole.
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Fair point. Presumably if we got you a pair of black trainers and some jeans, you'd be prepared to wade out into the sea in the middle of November to turn them away?
 

chiefdave

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  • Nov 18, 2021
  • #265
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Perhaps they should go through the official channels.
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What are the official channels? Is there a 'proper' way for those in France to claim asylum in the UK.

We know that 'stay in the first safe country' thing is a myth. What status do they actually have in France, or any other country, if they haven't claimed asylum there?
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Nov 18, 2021
  • #266
Well, if you want to put them off we're going to have to make a concerted effort to convince them this country ain't all that. Plaster photos of run-down Britain all round the French ports. People queuing at food banks and kids going hungry. People begging on street corners. Photos of constant rain and howling wind as people huddle together in thick clothing to keep warm.

Amazes when when people go on about how Britain's the best country in the world and are then amazed and offended when other people try to come here.
 
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1nilandwe...

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2021
  • #267
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Perhaps they should go through the official channels.
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"Hello, is that the UK? Yes, I'm looking to move there. I'm from Kurdistan. No I haven't got employment yet. No, nor a place to live. What do you mean, you can't help me? Can you put me through to Ms. Patel?"
 

LastGarrison

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2021
  • #268
Silenced Sloth said:
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Now I understand why the Kurds would want to come to the UK but I have never understood the argument of ‘If it wasn’t for us causing wars in their countries’ etc.

If it was flipped and the Russians came here and started a war on bullshit grounds, destabilised the country and killed loads of Brits I think the last country I would want to go and live in would be Russia!

It’s just the one part I’ve never got my head around.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2021
  • #269
1nilandwe... said:
Fair point. Presumably if we got you a pair of black trainers and some jeans, you'd be prepared to wade out into the sea in the middle of November to turn them away?
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What, because it's cold or I'd get a bit wet ? Clearly these people consider getting wet isn't much of a sacrifice with the land of milk and honey only 22 miles away.
Perhaps you should consider the gangs making thousands off the back of these people and those that will die in the process.
And why black trainers ?
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2021
  • #270
1nilandwe... said:
"Hello, is that the UK? Yes, I'm looking to move there. I'm from Kurdistan. No I haven't got employment yet. No, nor a place to live. What do you mean, you can't help me? Can you put me through to Ms. Patel?"
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Please tell me what's wrong with France.
 

1nilandwe...

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2021
  • #271
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
What, because it's cold or I'd get a bit wet ? Clearly these people consider getting wet isn't much of a sacrifice with the land of milk and honey only 22 miles away.
Perhaps you should consider the gangs making thousands off the back of these people and those that will die in the process.
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My point is that your argument that they are well kitted out is nonsense.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2021
  • #272
chiefdave said:
What are the official channels? Is there a 'proper' way for those in France to claim asylum in the UK.

We know that 'stay in the first safe country' thing is a myth. What status do they actually have in France, or any other country, if they haven't claimed asylum there?
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The government website says if you are an asylum seeker you have to claim asylum on arrival.

So the official channel according to our own government is get here, then claim asylum. Which is exactly what they’re doing.
 

1nilandwe...

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2021
  • #273
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Please tell me what's wrong with France.
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Perhaps they fancy their chances of getting a job in the UK more than they do in France, due to our reliance on seasonal workers, gig economy etc (no I don't know how this compares to the French economy)? Perhaps they have family here or contacts? Perhaps they speak more English than they do French? Perhaps the English system is easier to navigate? Perhaps as a population we are generally more accepting of asylum seekers?

Can you really think of no reasons why people might want to cross the channel apart from them rubbing their hands together and thinking the UK is a soft touch?
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2021
  • #274
skybluetony176 said:
The government website says if you are an asylum seeker you have to claim asylum on arrival.

So the official channel according to our own government is get here, then claim asylum. Which is exactly what they’re doing.
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You must apply for asylum if you want to stay in the UK as a refugee.

To be eligible you must have left your country and be unable to go back because you fear persecution.



-- they are arriving from France
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2021
  • #275
1nilandwe... said:
My point is that your argument that they are well kitted out is nonsense.
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Yes they are . Watch the footage. What else would you consider they should be wearing ? Mountaineering thermals ? Sorry, the local shops have sold out.
Not exactly Tom Hanks in Castaway is it ?
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Nov 18, 2021
  • #276
Grendel said:
You must apply for asylum if you want to stay in the UK as a refugee.

To be eligible you must have left your country and be unable to go back because you fear persecution.



-- they are arriving from France
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France isn’t their country dumb ass.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2021
  • #277
skybluetony176 said:
France isn’t their country dumb ass.
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So France should send them back then rather than pass them onto us.

I agree - or are you saying when migrants land somewhere in Europe they should be given a brochure and ask where they would like to go?
 

COV

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2021
  • #278
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Yes they are . Watch the footage. What else would you consider they should be wearing ? Mountaineering thermals ? Sorry, the local shops have sold out.
Not exactly Tom Hanks in Castaway is it ?
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What are you suggesting, some kind of dress code?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2021
  • #279
Grendel said:
So France should send them back then rather than pass them onto us.

I agree - or are you saying when migrants land somewhere in Europe they should be given a brochure and ask where they would like to go?
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You’re really not that stupid so why you’re pretending to be so you can impress racists is beyond me.

On the other hand maybe you are that stupid.
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2021
  • #280
Grendel said:
To be eligible you must have left your country and be unable to go back because you fear persecution.

-- they are arriving from France
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Didn't Jack Straw try that argument when he was Home Secretary and lose in court?
 
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