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  • Thread starter Alan Dugdales Moustache
  • Start date Nov 13, 2021
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COV

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  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #421
Deleted member 5849 said:
I'm sure people will cross continents in absolute peril for £59.20 a week, yep.
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Don’t forget the free Netflix, who wouldn’t risk their lives to watch Squid Game for nothing
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #422
COV said:
What do you mean ‘genuine’ asylum claims, as opposed to the people that try to cross the channel for a laugh?
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How's that man cave treating you? Had a shower yet this week?
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #423
Deleted member 5849 said:
I'm sure people will cross continents in absolute peril for £59.20 a week, yep.
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Do they got more in France? Why are they coming here then?
 

COV

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #424
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
How's that man cave treating you? Had a shower yet this week?
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What?
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #425
The thing is even if the french government allowed us to put an asylum centre in Calais and process there i don't think our government would do it. It would go down terribly with their base and be seen as a soft touch helping them over here.

I think the shit situation we're in now is because everybody is too scared to do anything.
 

clint van damme

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  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #426
Good program currently on 5live about this issue.
 

COV

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  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #427
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Do they got more in France? Why are they coming here then?
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“Don't blame them from running away from France in fairness”

.. then suddenly pretends to have a full understanding of the issue
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #428
Liquid Gold said:
The thing is even if the french government allowed us to put an asylum centre in Calais and process there i don't think our government would do it. It would go down terribly with their base and be seen as a soft touch helping them over here.

I think the shit situation we're in now is because everybody is too scared to do anything.
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We already have a consulate office in Calais don’t we? It’s where you go if you’ve lost your passport. We could do it from there if we wish.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #429
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Do they got more in France?
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Actually, it appears an asylum seeker gets £39.63 a week in this country while their decision is being processed. In France, they get 6.80euros a day. On current exchange rate, they're missing out on 42p a week coming here on rickity old boats, at risk of death. The fools, their spreadsheet was clearly flawed when they started their treck from Syria. Perhaps they were hedging on exchange rates and got it wrong.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #430
Deleted member 5849 said:
Actually, it appears an asylum seeker gets £39.63 a week in this country while their decision is being processed. In France, they get 6.80euros a day. On current exchange rate, they're missing out on 42p a week coming here on rickity old boats, at risk of death. The fools, their spreadsheet was clearly flawed when they started their treck from Syria. Perhaps they were hedging on exchange rates and got it wrong.
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Cost of living is cheaper in France too so that extra 42p a week counts for nothing.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #431
skybluetony176 said:
Cost of living is cheaper in France too so that extra 42p a week counts for nothing.
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Eh? They're 42p a week better off in France than here. You're saying they do *even better* with cost of living?!?

Crepes and cognac all round, then!
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #432
Can we just bring them over, take them directly to Lincolnshire and get them picking fruit and veg?
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #433
COV said:
“Don't blame them from running away from France in fairness”

.. then suddenly pretends to have a full understanding of the issue
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LOL
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #434
Deleted member 5849 said:
Eh? They're 42p a week better off in France than here. You're saying they do *even better* with cost of living?!?

Crepes and cognac all round, then!
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Misread. Thought you meant 42p a week better of in the UK.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #435
Deleted member 5849 said:
Actually, it appears an asylum seeker gets £39.63 a week in this country while their decision is being processed. In France, they get 6.80euros a day. On current exchange rate, they're missing out on 42p a week coming here on rickity old boats, at risk of death. The fools, their spreadsheet was clearly flawed when they started their treck from Syria. Perhaps they were hedging on exchange rates and got it wrong.
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If you add on the trafficking fee, they are financially worse off then. So, why are they coming?
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #436
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Do they got more in France? Why are they coming here then?
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Because .....
A . I've got a mate in Leeds called Charlie.
B. I speak the English.
C. I like that Jason Statham.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #437
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
If you add on the trafficking fee, they are financially worse off then. So, why are they coming?
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Why do migrants and asylum seekers want to come to the UK? - Full Fact

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PVA

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  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #438
There are lots of reasons why they might make the journey.

Firstly, as already discussed, many more stay in France than travel to the UK, so it's not like the majority make the crossing.

Language, obviously is a big one. If you're trying to start a new life somewhere it'd be much easier in a place where you can speak the language wouldn't it?

They may have friends, family or contacts in the UK

The UK is traditionally seen as a prosperous nation with opportunities for all.

In France and many other EU countries you need more paperwork and ID to get work and accommodation than you do in the UK

The traffickers are obviously going to over sell it. 'pay me lots of money to get you to the UK and I promise you'll get a good job, nice flat, etc etc'
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #439
PVA said:
There are lots of reasons why they might make the journey.

Firstly, as already discussed, many more stay in France than travel to the UK, so it's not like the majority make the crossing.

Language, obviously is a big one. If you're trying to start a new life somewhere it'd be much easier in a place where you can speak the language wouldn't it?

They may have friends, family or contacts in the UK

The UK is traditionally seen as a prosperous nation with opportunities for all.

In France and many other EU countries you need more paperwork and ID to get work and accommodation than you do in the UK

The traffickers are obviously going to over sell it. 'pay me lots of money to get you to the UK and I promise you'll get a good job, nice flat, etc etc'
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I'd want to come here over France but it doesn't mean I should be allowed to. You're just spouting what the main media outlets are saying.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #440
One man just on the news has escaped the Taliban, speaks English and very well, wants to be in England so he can bring his wife and daughters to the UK so his daughters can complete their education. Why wouldn’t you risk everything for that chance for your daughters if you were a father. Compared to letting them grow up under the Taliban I’d take the same risk.
 
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Grendel

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  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #441
COV said:
You can waffle & deflect all on you want, someone coolly announcing they have no sympathy for kids drowning, and saying they brought it on themselves- pretty warped.
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Mr macron?
 

skybluetony176

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  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #442
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
I'd want to come here over France but it doesn't mean I should be allowed to. You're just spouting what the main media outlets are saying.
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Tough shit. They are.
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #443
Deleted member 5849 said:
I'm sure people will cross continents in absolute peril for £59.20 a week, yep.
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Well they are paying thousands to do it aren’t they!
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #444
skybluetony176 said:
Tough shit. They are.
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Perhaps you should offer to put them up for a bit at your gaff. I don't think so.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #445
Grendel said:
Well they are paying thousands to do it aren’t they!
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They're not getting a fantastic return on their investment if that's what it's about, then! They should have a word with their financial advisor.
 
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PVA

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  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #446
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
I'd want to come here over France but it doesn't mean I should be allowed to. You're just spouting what the main media outlets are saying.
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But they are allowed to.

They can pick any country they like. That's international law. Deal with it.

You're just spouting what a load of right wing dickheads are saying.
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #447
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Perhaps you should offer to put them up for a bit at your gaff. I don't think so.
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Id guess they have better accommodation in Calais than long lawford to be fair.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #448
skybluetony176 said:
One man just on the news has escaped the Taliban, speaks English and very well, wants to be in England so he can bring his wife and daughters to the UK so his daughters can complete their education. Why wouldn’t you risk everything for that chance for your daughters if you were a father. Compared to letting them grow up under the Taliban I’d take the same risk.
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Saw it. A well rehearsed story. Did he say he didn't speak French or German ?
 
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Grendel

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  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #449
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
A well rehearsed story. Did he say he didn't speak French or German ?
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If he’s “just” escaped the taliban How’s he got to Calais so quick? Private jet?
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #450
PVA said:
But they are allowed to.

They can pick any country they like. That's international law. Deal with it.

You're just spouting what a load of right wing dickheads are saying.
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Such as ?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #451
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Such as ?
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Bit Harsh on macron from PVA but he clearly gets off on ethnics dying in the channel
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #452
Grendel said:
Id guess they have better accommodation in Calais than long lawford to be fair.
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Probably. But not living Long Lawford I wouldn’t know.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #453
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Such as ?
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Blaming the migrants
Zero compassion
Something about economic migrants
Saying they should stay in France
Questioning speaking English as a genuine reason for making the journey
Telling people to put some migrants up

Absolute right wing bingo.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #454
Grendel said:
Bit Harsh on macron from PVA but he clearly gets off on ethnics dying in the channel
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Fuck off you utter c**t.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #455
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Perhaps you should offer to put them up for a bit at your gaff. I don't think so.
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In racist top trumps that’s got the highest score.
 
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