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Migrants crossing from Europe (7 Viewers)

  • Thread starter Alan Dugdales Moustache
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Nov 13, 2021
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It is absolutely now out of control.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 13, 2021
  • #2
Come on Alan be fair .. the war in France that they are fleeing has been brutal
 
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clint van damme

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  • Nov 13, 2021
  • #3
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
It is absolutely now out of control.
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You must be mistaken, Brexit sorted all that out.
 
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tommy hutch legend

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  • Nov 13, 2021
  • #4
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
It is absolutely now out of control.
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I thought entering a country illegally was a crimminal offence without a passport it's madness
 
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Grendel

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  • Nov 13, 2021
  • #5
It’s amazing that France is such a shite country compared to the uk
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Nov 13, 2021
  • #6
I don't blame them from running away from France in fairness.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 14, 2021
  • #7
I was in Lampedusa in the summer, which is the small island where people attempt to land from Africa. We hired a boat and went around the island a bit and as we were going into the harbour one of the rescue boats was coming in alongside us with about 20 people on it including children and a baby.

It’s easy to become desensitised to it all when you see on the news but seeing it in person is pretty harrowing.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 14, 2021
  • #8
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
It is absolutely now out of control.
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Why? If it is, what do you think think the answer is?
 

Terry Gibson's perm

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 14, 2021
  • #9
It’s unacceptable they are still getting in but I don’t think that the government are that bothered as while we are all looking out to sea at what is coming in the mps are picking our pockets here and doing what they want.

If they wanted to stop it take out the organisers.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Nov 14, 2021
  • #10
We’ve not even had enough cross to cover the shortage in care home workers let alone any of the other sectors facing chronic labour shortages.
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Nov 14, 2021
  • #11
fernandopartridge said:
Why? If it is, what do you think think the answer is?
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Why ? Do you actually think there is a case to answer ?
It'll soon be the norm for 1000 a day. The criminals are making a fortune out if this . The more it appears that people are getting across the more will attempt the crossing, the more the criminals line their pockets .
The fact that very little is being done to curb it, particularly on the French side , is tantamount to being party to this trafficking.
We are a soft option. So long as we keep towing these migrants into our ports so the problem will worsen.

Tow them back to France and dump them on their beaches. If it causes an international incident so be it.

1000 a day is a city bigger than Coventry in one year.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Nov 14, 2021
  • #12
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Why ? Do you actually think there is a case to answer ?
It'll soon be the norm for 1000 a day. The criminals are making a fortune out if this . The more it appears that people are getting across the more will attempt the crossing, the more the criminals line their pockets .
The fact that very little is being done to curb it, particularly on the French side , is tantamount to being party to this trafficking.
We are a soft option. So long as we keep towing these migrants into our ports so the problem will worsen.

Tow them back to France and dump them on their beaches. If it causes an international incident so be it.

1000 a day is a city bigger than Coventry in one year.
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We don’t even take in a third of what France does. Not sure how that line’s up with your assumptions that France is doing nothing to curb it or that we’re seen as a soft option.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 14, 2021
  • #13
If you have scrambled together thousands of pounds to pay a criminal offering to get you a seat on a dinghy I’m not sure why you couldn’t get a fake passport and ferry ticket, or a place in mainland Europe.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Nov 14, 2021
  • #14
skybluetony176 said:
We don’t even take in a third of what France does. Not sure how that line’s up with your assumptions that France is doing nothing to curb it or that we’re seen as a soft option.
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So if it increases to 3,000 a day then to match France , you'd be okay with that ? That's around a million a year. A city the size of Birmingham. No mention of the traffickers . You're not bothered at all with that ?
Shame on you.
Should we ask Belarus if we can take some refugees from the Polish border ? I'm assuming you'd want to know how many France might be taking first .
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Nov 14, 2021
  • #15
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
So if it increases to 3,000 a day then to match France , you'd be okay with that ? That's around a million a year. A city the size of Birmingham. No mention of the traffickers . You're not bothered at all with that ?
Shame on you.
Should we ask Belarus if we can take some refugees from the Polish border ? I'm assuming you'd want to know how many France might be taking first .
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I see your 3000 and raise it to 5000 a day.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 14, 2021
  • #16
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
So if it increases to 3,000 a day then to match France , you'd be okay with that ? That's around a million a year. A city the size of Birmingham. No mention of the traffickers . You're not bothered at all with that ?
Shame on you.
Should we ask Belarus if we can take some refugees from the Polish border ? I'm assuming you'd want to know how many France might be taking first .
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Have you got a source where it says Frances takes in 3,000 refugees a day?
 

Marty

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  • Nov 14, 2021
  • #17
There's only one way this will end.

RNLI should all be charged with people trafficking.
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Nov 14, 2021
  • #18
Sick Boy said:
Have you got a source where it says Frances takes in 3,000 refugees a day?
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No, but apparently we're only taking 1/3 of France so we need to up our
skybluetony176 said:
I see your 3000 and raise it to 5000 a day.
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It will be in 12 months.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Nov 14, 2021
  • #19
Sick Boy said:
Have you got a source where it says Frances takes in 3,000 refugees a day?
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I haven't spoken to Frances recently so I don't know.
 

Sick Boy

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  • Nov 14, 2021
  • #20
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
No, but apparently we're only taking 1/3 of France so we need to up our

It will be in 12 months.
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So the 3000 figure was made up?
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Nov 14, 2021
  • #21
Sick Boy said:
So the 3000 figure was made up?
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He fantasised about a potential figure of 1000 a day arriving by boat and multiplied it by 3 because I pointed out that we take about a third of of what France takes in in terms of asylum seekers/refugees. He’s basically come up with a fictitious number based on his own imagination.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Nov 14, 2021
  • #22
skybluetony176 said:
He fantasised about a potential figure of 1000 a day arriving by boat and multiplied it by 3 because I pointed out that we take about a third of of what France takes in in terms of asylum seekers/refugees. He’s basically come up with a fictitious number based on his own imagination.
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1000 by boat a day is fast becoming the norm. As I pointed out earlier, it will be 3000 per day in the not too distant future. There is nothing to say the trend is down or even slowing. If anything its growing faster.

How many have come across in the first 13 days of November compared with the entire year before lockdown ?
Or should I check the figures for France first ?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 14, 2021
  • #23
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
1000 by boat a day is fast becoming the norm. As I pointed out earlier, it will be 3000 per day in the not too distant future. There is nothing to say the trend is down or even slowing. If anything its growing faster.

How many have come across in the first 13 days of November compared with the entire year before lockdown ?
Or should I check the figures for France first ?
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All started going wrong when Coventrian disappeared from border control
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Nov 14, 2021
  • #24
Sick Boy said:
So the 3000 figure was made up?
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Prior to lockdown I went on record as suggesting that it would be 1000 a week in a year or so and got hammered for it.
So as for 3000, just hang on for another 12 months and then say I was wrong.
In the meantime the traffickers take the money . They must be laughing.
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 14, 2021
  • #25
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Prior to lockdown I went on record as suggesting that it would be 1000 a week in a year or so and got hammered for it.
So as for 3000, just hang on for another 12 months and then say I was wrong.
In the meantime the traffickers take the money because our government won't put a stop to it.
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I think it’s grown 300% since last year which was also a record year
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 14, 2021
  • #26
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Prior to lockdown I went on record as suggesting that it would be 1000 a week in a year or so and got hammered for it.
So as for 3000, just hang on for another 12 months and then say I was wrong.
In the meantime the traffickers take the money . They must be laughing.
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There’s no way there will be an average of 3000 people arriving per day in a year.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Nov 14, 2021
  • #27
Sick Boy said:
There’s no way there will be an average of 3000 people arriving per day in a year.
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I'd say look at the stats for the last three years.
I hope you're right and I'm wrong, I really do.
 

COV

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  • Nov 14, 2021
  • #28
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
I'd say look at the stats for the last three years.
I hope you're right and I'm wrong, I really do.
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According to this 828 is the highest recorded, and 12,400 in the year to September 5th, which works out at 50 per day.. what am I missing here with this talk of 3,000 per day?

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/four-toddlers-and-a-baby-among-first-migrant-boat-arrivals-in-uk-after-two-weeks-of-poor-weather-12399950
 

Sick Boy

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  • Nov 14, 2021
  • #29
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
I'd say look at the stats for the last three years.
I hope you're right and I'm wrong, I really do.
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That would be over 1 million people a year crossing the channel in makeshift boats, it’s not going to happen.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Nov 14, 2021
  • #30
COV said:
According to this 828 is the highest recorded, and 12,400 in the year to September 5th, which works out at 50 per day.. what am I missing here with this talk of 3,000 per day?

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/four-toddlers-and-a-baby-among-first-migrant-boat-arrivals-in-uk-after-two-weeks-of-poor-weather-12399950
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Why are you searching on Google Ireland?
 
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Grendel

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  • Nov 14, 2021
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COV said:
According to this 828 is the highest recorded, and 12,400 in the year to September 5th, which works out at 50 per day.. what am I missing here with this talk of 3,000 per day?

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/four-toddlers-and-a-baby-among-first-migrant-boat-arrivals-in-uk-after-two-weeks-of-poor-weather-12399950
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If that’s right ADM is correct as the figure is 25,000 now so 13,000 in 8 weeks more than the whole of the previous 9 months
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 14, 2021
  • #32
Sick Boy said:
Why are you searching on Google Ireland?
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COV

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  • Nov 14, 2021
  • #33
Grendel said:
If that’s right ADM is correct as the figure is 25,000 now so 13,000 in 8 weeks more than the whole of the previous 9 months
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25,000 as of now means less than 100 per day in 2021, and 13,000 in 8 weeks is 232 per day- where is 3,000 per day coming from?
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 14, 2021
  • #34
COV said:
25,000 as of now means less than 100 per day in 2021, and 13,000 in 8 weeks is 232 per day- where is 3,000 per day coming from?
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ROi?
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 14, 2021
  • #35
Also there’s 1,300 on one day
 
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