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steve101

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  • Jul 12, 2021
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Disappointed that we couldn't get him again if available on loan to the Championship
 
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fatso

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  • Jul 12, 2021
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Fuck. Was hoping he would return, he was starting to look good.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #3
Yes it’s already been discussed extensively here

21/22 Summer transfer mega-thread

Notable absentees from what I’ve seen: O’Hare, Ngandu, Drysdale, Tavares. COVID related most likely Didn’t notice Simon Moore either
www.skybluestalk.co.uk
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jul 12, 2021
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Really bad news.

Massively underrated by many our fans. I don't buy that he was only good at the end of the season.
 
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Alkhen

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  • Jul 12, 2021
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Would have backed him at a better club than QPR but never felt it was likely Norwich would send him back here for a 3rd loan. He needs new challenges. Good luck to him.

Robins isn't thick he will have plans to bolster the defence. Get the training camp done and whatever the covid situation sorted and we'll see new faces. No panic
 
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CDK

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  • Jul 12, 2021
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Thought McCallum really improved from the start of last season and feel he was a major confident key member of the team by the end of the season .He seemed to have been coached very well and says a lot about robins and his staff with the work they put in also about acedemy staff also .
I trust robins to get the defensive players we need.
 
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Deleted member 2477

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  • Jul 12, 2021
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He wasnt just a defender. He will be a massive gap in our overall play and attacking threat. He was the provider for crosses that lead to goals and his long throw was a big tactic in our armoury that provided several goals.
Its a massive hole to fill in the team
 
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slowpoke

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  • Jul 12, 2021
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marcusp said:
He wasnt just a defender. He will be a massive gap in our overall play and attacking threat. He was the provider for crosses that lead to goals and his long throw was a big tactic in our armoury that provided several goals.
Its a massive hole to fill in the team
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Agree with what you say but let’s not panic I’m sure Robins will have someone lined up preferably a permanent.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 12, 2021
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In an ideal world he has a mediocre season so we can get him back cheap and build him up again.
 
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steve101

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  • Jul 12, 2021
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marcusp said:
He wasnt just a defender. He will be a massive gap in our overall play and attacking threat. He was the provider for crosses that lead to goals and his long throw was a big tactic in our armoury that provided several goals.
Its a massive hole to fill in the team
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Totally agree. He was also very good in the air.
 
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MAFF

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  • Jul 12, 2021
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marcusp said:
He wasnt just a defender. He will be a massive gap in our overall play and attacking threat. He was the provider for crosses that lead to goals and his long throw was a big tactic in our armoury that provided several goals.
Its a massive hole to fill in the team
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i like mccallum and he'll be hard to replace but he couldn't cross for shit
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 12, 2021
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Let’s not get carried away. Our left side was our poorest when we were playing out by some distance. McCallums xA per game was behind both Dacosta and Giles (Giles by some distance). His crossing and general use of the ball in the opponents half were poor. When we meant more direct and was challenging for headers in their half and lobbing they ball in he was useful, but Luke Shaw he was not.

He’s an excellent young defender, but we could have done much much better going forwards.
 
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hamil99

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  • Jul 12, 2021
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You never know what the loan asking price for McCallum is this season, especially after he did so well with us last year. Maybe robins thought he could get better for the money.
 

CanadianCCFC

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  • Jul 13, 2021
  • #14
Long throw, good in the air, good on the ball, good delivery, he will be missed
 
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slowpoke

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  • Jul 13, 2021
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marcusp said:
He wasnt just a defender. He will be a massive gap in our overall play and attacking threat. He was the provider for crosses that lead to goals and his long throw was a big tactic in our armoury that provided several goals.
Its a massive hole to fill in the team
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I liked McCallum a good player and good full back but let’s not go overboard he’s no Paulo Mancini he will be replaced Robins will have someone lined up of that I’m certain. This is a very different window this year lots of players available, no panic.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jul 13, 2021
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slowpoke said:
I liked McCallum a good player and good full back but let’s not go overboard he’s no Paulo Mancini he will be replaced Robins will have someone lined up of that I’m certain. This is a very different window this year lots of players available, no panic.
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Is that half Paolo Maldini and half Roberto Mancini?
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jul 13, 2021
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shmmeee said:
Let’s not get carried away. Our left side was our poorest when we were playing out by some distance. McCallums xA per game was behind both Dacosta and Giles (Giles by some distance). His crossing and general use of the ball in the opponents half were poor. When we meant more direct and was challenging for headers in their half and lobbing they ball in he was useful, but Luke Shaw he was not.

He’s an excellent young defender, but we could have done much much better going forwards.
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Which just shows how wrong stats can be because for all his faults he was clearly far superior to Dacosta and Giles.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 13, 2021
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clint van damme said:
Which just shows how wrong stats can be because for all his faults he was clearly far superior to Dacosta and Giles.
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At defending sure. Going forward, sorry but he wasn’t.
 

Kneeza

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  • Jul 13, 2021
  • #19
We sold him years ago.
Move on.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 13, 2021
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shmmeee said:
Let’s not get carried away. Our left side was our poorest when we were playing out by some distance. McCallums xA per game was behind both Dacosta and Giles (Giles by some distance). His crossing and general use of the ball in the opponents half were poor. When we meant more direct and was challenging for headers in their half and lobbing they ball in he was useful, but Luke Shaw he was not.

He’s an excellent young defender, but we could have done much much better going forwards.
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Yeah he wasn't great given the wingback system means he need to be an outlet wide for us. We need a Ryan Giles type that can actually defend
 

Irish Sky Blue

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  • Jul 13, 2021
  • #21
shmmeee said:
At defending sure. Going forward, sorry but he wasn’t.
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I think Dacosta has been very disappointing so far, apart from his performance against Forest. I thought he was really weak in defence and his distribution and crossing when going forward was poor. He tends to thump first time crosses into the box more in hope than in judgement.
I wouldnt write him off but I think he has to make huge improvements to be a useful Championship squad member.

Watching the games, not just looking at stats, I think McCallum is by far the better player both defensively and attacking wise.
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Jul 13, 2021
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Irish Sky Blue said:
I think Dacosta has been very disappointing so far, apart from his performance against Forest. I thought he was really weak in defence and his distribution and crossing when going forward was poor. He tends to thump first time crosses into the box more in hope than in judgement.
I wouldnt write him off but I think he has to make huge improvements to be a useful Championship squad member.

Watching the games, not just looking at stats, I think McCallum is by far the better player both defensively and attacking wise.
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The emergence of Pask probably means Dacosta is 3rd in the pecking order for RB.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 13, 2021
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David O'Day said:
Yeah he wasn't great given the wingback system means he need to be an outlet wide for us. We need a Ryan Giles type that can actually defend
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Im increasingly thinking we need two fullbacks and to go four at the back.
Irish Sky Blue said:
I think Dacosta has been very disappointing so far, apart from his performance against Forest. I thought he was really weak in defence and his distribution and crossing when going forward was poor. He tends to thump first time crosses into the box more in hope than in judgement.
I wouldnt write him off but I think he has to make huge improvements to be a useful Championship squad member.

Watching the games, not just looking at stats, I think McCallum is by far the better player both defensively and attacking wise.
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Disagree. Dacostas use of the ball going forward is much better, as is his willingness to take players on and his crossing.

McCallums use of the ball was truly terrible at times as was his crossing.

He’s a very good LB and a nice young man, but we don’t have to pretend he’s the perfect footballer to make that point.
 
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Frostie

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  • Jul 13, 2021
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AFCCOVENTRY said:
The emergence of Pask probably means Dacosta is 3rd in the pecking order for RB.
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Not for me.
Pask is a CB who did a job for us there when we were desperate but looks really uncomfortable with it. The emergence of Burroughs &, even the game Eccles had there, hopefully means he can concentrate on earning a game in his natural position instead.

Dacosta clearly has flaws but I think could come good, needs more time to adapt.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jul 13, 2021
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Frostie said:
Not for me.
Pask is a CB who did a job for us there when we were desperate but looks really uncomfortable with it. The emergence of Burroughs &, even the game Eccles had there, hopefully means he can concentrate on earning a game in his natural position instead.

Dacosta clearly has flaws but I think could come good, needs more time to adapt.
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Dacosta has a lot of the raw attributes needed, he just needs to learn to mentally defend.

He was never meant to play as many games as he did last season.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 13, 2021
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shmmeee said:
Im increasingly thinking we need two fullbacks and to go four at the back.


Disagree. Dacostas use of the ball going forward is much better, as is his willingness to take players on and his crossing.

McCallums use of the ball was truly terrible at times as was his crossing.

He’s a very good LB and a nice young man, but we don’t have to pretend he’s the perfect footballer to make that point.
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Haven't got the wide players to be any good with a flat back 4
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 13, 2021
  • #27
David O'Day said:
Haven't got the wide players to be any good with a flat back 4
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Eh, I think 4231 doesn’t rely on wingers. O’Hare, Waghorn, Györkeres, Bright can all play along the 3.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 13, 2021
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shmmeee said:
Eh, I think 4231 doesn’t rely on wingers. O’Hare, Waghorn, Györkeres, Bright can all play along the 3.
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We then need the full backs to give us width which brings back around to the same issue we started with
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jul 13, 2021
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marcusp said:
He wasnt just a defender. He will be a massive gap in our overall play and attacking threat. He was the provider for crosses that lead to goals and his long throw was a big tactic in our armoury that provided several goals.
Its a massive hole to fill in the team
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Given his crossing and forward play were probably the poorest part to his game I really don't think we'll miss it all that much?

You're making him out to be far better than he was. He was an able defender but had much to improve upon.
 

SBAndy

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  • Jul 13, 2021
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David O'Day said:
We then need the full backs to give us width which brings back around to the same issue we started with
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And if we were to go 4 at the back, it pretty much rules Fadz out of contention.
 

covcity4life

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  • Jul 13, 2021
  • #31
Too player who clearly did work in our system as we won a league and theb stayed up quite comfortably

Shame not getting him back again
 
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Marty

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  • Jul 13, 2021
  • #32
shmmeee said:
Im increasingly thinking we need two fullbacks and to go four at the back.


Disagree. Dacostas use of the ball going forward is much better, as is his willingness to take players on and his crossing.

McCallums use of the ball was truly terrible at times as was his crossing.

He’s a very good LB and a nice young man, but we don’t have to pretend he’s the perfect footballer to make that point.
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Have to disagree, McCallum is far better then Da Costa and Giles. Both defensively and attacking.

Giles has the heart of a pea and quite poor positionly, pulled out of absolutely everything, Da Costa's crossing ability consists of him just hitting it as hard as possible into the box. McCallum will be a top end Championship player, can't say the same for the others.
 
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RegTheDonk

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  • Jul 13, 2021
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shmmeee said:
At defending sure. Going forward, sorry but he wasn’t.
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We've lost dibs on a proven asset so hopefully Robins has a worthwhile alternative, as regardless of playing left or right side, I'd favor him over Decosta any day. A few decent crosses doesn't make up for his lack of positional awareness or defensive guile.
 

clint van damme

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  • Jul 13, 2021
  • #34
shmmeee said:
At defending sure. Going forward, sorry but he wasn’t.
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Giles did very little going forward. Dacosta channelled his inner Cafu for one game.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jul 13, 2021
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Frostie said:
Not for me.
Pask is a CB who did a job for us there when we were desperate but looks really uncomfortable with it. The emergence of Burroughs &, even the game Eccles had there, hopefully means he can concentrate on earning a game in his natural position instead.

Dacosta clearly has flaws but I think could come good, needs more time to adapt.
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Burroughs isn't a RB, RW or RWB by nature as far as I know but a attacking midfielder who can go a bit wider if necessary (SBChimp I'm sure can correct me if I'm wrong). Eccles isn't either - he's a DCM.

I'm sure they'd be willing to play there if asked but I feel we'd be doing them a disservice to look at them to play there regularly. A bit like we ruined Osbourne playing him at RB when his natural position was as a disruptor and ball-winning DCM.

I think of the three Pask is actually the most suited to RWB, but again I feel he would be better as a right sided centre back, esp as he has a bit of pace which we lack in our current defence. Blaine Rowe I think is a more natural right back if we're looking to bring someone through in that position but it depends on how he is progressing in the development team.

Dacosta is a natural right sided player but he needs to be far more disciplined in his positioning. Maybe (hopefully) he can be trained to do that in which case he'd be the natural back-up for Dabo.
 
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