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Happy_Martian

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #71
#InMaxWeTrust
 

clint van damme

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #72
Skybluefaz said:
It's a bit of the Burge syndrome in that when he has a good game some get far too carried away and forget for the most part he's not quite good enough.
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both factions in this debate are losing their collective minds and ability to be objective. It's madness.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #73
JulianDarbyFTW said:
Sunderland are on a bit of a roll at the moment. Wouldn't be surprised if they came up this season. Be interesting to see Burge play at this level. And by interesting, I mean hilarious.
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If he did play I’d be right all be it a season late
 

better days

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #74
All the time Max is doing well it gives Matty Godden time to recover properly and not rush back and risk aggravating his injury
 
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fatso

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #75
Evo1883 said:
Be honest, is that what you want for the club? Is that the best direction for our future, having biamou as 2nd choice or 1st choice based off formation?


At no other club in this league would this be a Discussion, our fans are too emotional towards people who try rather than natural ability... Let me guess... Paul Telfer top 10 at City ever? Carl Baker top 5
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I think your missing the point, if max can become 2nd striker, just by putting in the effort, how bad must the others be?
And why the fuck cant they all put a shift in?

It's not Biamou's fault that he's restricted in terms of ability, but you can see he's trying his best every time he pulls on the shirt. And yet no one is suggesting that he will keep Godden out of the side once fit, So where you get the idea that effort is all that matters I've no idea!
 
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stupot07

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #76
Boosh said:
Tbf Baker did incredibly well at league 1 level which Max didn’t
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He wasn't that bad. Was injured practically the whole of the first season and scored a goal every 162 minutes in the league last season, and 1 every 105 minutes across all competitions last season.

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Londonccfcfan

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #77
Esoterica said:
He's played 1654 minutes in total which is the minutes equivalent of 18 matches. A goal every 414 minutes in the Championship. 4 from 18 matches. Not amazing but not awful either - about where you'd expect for a 3rd choice striker.

After a run of starts there are some signs he's adapting and improving again and the gap between his good performances are reducing. There are still some parts of his game that are very very raw and I doubt that will ever change. Think he's very much a confidence player too, his better peformances, not just at this level, seem to coincide with an early goal and his performances deteriorate the longer he goes without scoring.

It'll be interesting to see how he gets on between now and the end of the season. If he puts together a string of perfomances he'll be accused of playing for a contract but we should all hope he does put some consistent performances together because it will mean we don't have to rush Godden back.
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This another logical and sensible post. Amongst the squirming crap.
 

stupot07

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #78
Boosh said:
How many strikers have we had at championship level worse than him? Nimely and Hines I can think of. Even Clive Platt scored goals in leagues 1 and 2
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Nimely,
Hines,
Platt,
Graham Barrett,
Eddie Johnson,
Lee Mills was pretty poor,
Ysrael Zuniga,
Jairo Martinez
Juan Sara
Onandi Lowe
Sebastian Olszar
Youssef Sofiane
Donovan Simmonds
Kevin Kyle
Jamie McMaster
Freddie Sears (at the time)
Gary Madine (first spell)
Roy O'Donovan
Cody McDonald











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Deleted member 11652

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #79
stupot07 said:
He wasn't that bad. Was injured practically the whole of the first season and scored a goal every 162 minutes in the league last season, and 1 every 105 minutes across all competitions last season.

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stupot07 said:
He wasn't that bad. Was injured practically the whole of the first season and scored a goal every 162 minutes in the league last season, and 1 every 105 minutes across all competitions last season.

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4 goals 2 assists at league one level
 

stupot07

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #80
Boosh said:
4 goals 2 assists at league one level
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He played 651 minutes last season, impressive contribution when you consider the number of minutes he played.

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Deleted member 11652

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #81
stupot07 said:
Nimely,
Hines,
Platt,
Graham Barrett,
Eddie Johnson,
Lee Mills was pretty poor,
Ysrael Zuniga,
Jairo Martinez
Juan Sara
Onandi Lowe
Sebastian Olszar
Youssef Sofiane
Donovan Simmonds
Kevin Kyle
Jamie McMaster
Freddie Sears (at the time)
Gary Madine (first spell)
Roy O'Donovan
Cody McDonald











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Platt, Kyle, McDonald, O’donovan, Sears, Madine all better without doubt.

Simmonds never even played right?

Too young to know the rest other than Nimley and Hines who I named
 
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Deleted member 11652

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #82
stupot07 said:
He played 651 minutes last season, impressive contribution when you consider the number of minutes he played.

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And thank god. Had he played anymore we wouldn’t have won the league
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #83
Boosh said:
Platt, Kyle, McDonald, O’donovan, Sears, Madine all better without doubt.

Simmonds never even played right?

Too young to know the rest other than Nimley and Hines who I named
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Good god you must have never watched Roy O’Donovan then
 
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Deleted member 11652

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #84
Ccfcisparks said:
Good god you must have never watched Roy O’Donovan then
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Check his goal record in league one. 9 in 15 for Hartlepool, biamou can dream
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #85
Boosh said:
Check his goal record in league one. 9 in 15 for Hartlepool, biamou can dream
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He scored 19 in 119 games in English football. You have no idea what you are talking about.
 
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Bugsy

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #86
Boosh said:
Platt, Kyle, McDonald, O’donovan, Sears, Madine all better without doubt.

Simmonds never even played right?

Too young to know the rest other than Nimley and Hines who I named
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I'm not having that Biamou is better than kyle, O'donovan and sears without a doubt
 
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ccfc1234

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #87
Evo1883 said:
I mean Baka has 11 league goals in 66 for us and Biamou 13 in 88... Coventry fans can't destroy Bakayoko and be in love with Biamou it's fucking insane logic
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Out of interest which do you think is the more important statistic, mins on pitch to goals ratio or simply appearances?
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #88
stupot07 said:
He wasn't that bad. Was injured practically the whole of the first season and scored a goal every 162 minutes in the league last season, and 1 every 105 minutes across all competitions last season.

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Ponticelli scored one in every 109 minutes in league 2
 

stupot07

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #89
Boosh said:
Platt, Kyle, McDonald, O’donovan, Sears, Madine all better without doubt.

Simmonds never even played right?

Too young to know the rest other than Nimley and Hines who I named
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Here's their record with us in the championship.

Sears 10 games 0 goals
Kyle 44 games 5 goals
Mcdonald 23 games 4 goals
O'Donovan 13 games 0 goals
Madine 9 games 0 goals

I thought platt was ok as a foil for Jukebox tbf 67 games 7 goals

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Evo1883

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #90
ccfc1234 said:
Out of interest which do you think is the more important statistic, mins on pitch to goals ratio or simply appearances?
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I know the goal per minute stat for both etc.. It's circumstantial tbh... Overall a striker is judged on how many goals he scores a season... Max this season has an average of 61 minutes per match btw.....

I wasn't going to continue with this but you asked so I duly replied
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #91
stupot07 said:
Here's their record with us in the championship.

Sears 10 games 0 goals
Kyle 44 games 5 goals
Mcdonald 23 games 4 goals
O'Donovan 13 games 0 goals
Madine 9 games 0 goals

I thought platt was ok tbf 67 games 7 goals

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I rated absolutely none of those players tbh.. Not one.
Really poor forwards at this club
 
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Evo1883

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #92
McDonald, now that's a striker that missed sitters jesus christ the memories
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #93
tbf, you'd hope for more on your tombstone than 'better than Roy O'Donovan'.
 
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ccfc1234

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #94
Evo1883 said:
I know the goal per minute stat for both etc.. It's circumstantial tbh... Overall a striker is judged on how many goals he scores a season... Max this season has an average of 61 minutes per match btw.....

I wasn't going to continue with this but you asked so I duly replied
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How highly did you rate Dennis Bergkamp at Arsenal and Zola at Chelsea? Interestingly both had a similar mins to goals ratio as Max in the championship.

To be clear I am not comparing the overall ability. I am making the point stats don't tell the whole story and forwards can be considered decent without having a Ronaldo like goals to games ratio.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #95
clint van damme said:
both factions in this debate are losing their collective minds and ability to be objective. It's madness.
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Yea I admit I am tbh... I try and remain level headed but get dragged out of that zone eventually... Il give max this...hes had a couple good games recently.. And I'm pleased with his input atm all things considered


IL maintain he gets an easier ride than any other forward in recent memory at this club
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #96
Evo1883 said:
McDonald, now that's a striker that missed sitters jesus christ the memories
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I actually had to check we signed him when we were a Championship club. Most of Thorn's signings were dreadful.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #97
ccfc1234 said:
How highly did you rate Dennis Bergkamp at Arsenal and Zola at Chelsea? Interestingly both had a similar mins to goals ratio as Max in the championship.
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Wow, we are now truly entering the twilight zone.
 
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Jamesimus

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #98
Boosh said:
Platt, Kyle, McDonald, O’donovan, Sears, Madine all better without doubt.
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Lol what?! Some of these are a bit of a stretch
 
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Jamesimus

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #99
ccfc1234 said:
How highly did you rate Dennis Bergkamp at Arsenal and Zola at Chelsea? Interestingly both had a similar mins to goals ratio as Max in the championship.
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Both shite.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #100
ccfc1234 said:
How highly did you rate Dennis Bergkamp at Arsenal and Zola at Chelsea? Interestingly both had a similar mins to goals ratio as Max in the championship.
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I mean Dennis was actually a second striker... One of the most naturally gifted players I've ever witnessed... Elegant on the ball, could feed his partner and hold the ball well.. Brilliant brain, top 5 dutch players of all time?

Again zola was more a second striker.. Another great player on the ball, skillful, fast... Did it against the best of his time... Baggio was better


What's the argument here
 
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Deleted member 11652

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #101
stupot07 said:
Here's their record with us in the championship.

Sears 10 games 0 goals
Kyle 44 games 5 goals
Mcdonald 23 games 4 goals
O'Donovan 13 games 0 goals
Madine 9 games 0 goals

I thought platt was ok as a foil for Jukebox tbf 67 games 7 goals

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And their records at league 1 level please
 
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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #102
Ccfcisparks said:
He scored 19 in 119 games in English football. You have no idea what you are talking about.
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Hahaha you were in tears saying we were definitely down 3 weeks ago.

Has Bianou had as good a season as Roy O’donovan at Hartlepool yes or no?

Biamou has 22 in 106. Hardly worlds away is it
 

clint van damme

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #103
Evo1883 said:
Yea I admit I am tbh... I try and remain level headed but get dragged out of that zone eventually... Il give max this...hes had a couple good games recently.. And I'm pleased with his input atm all things considered


IL maintain he gets an easier ride than any other forward in recent memory at this club
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Wasn't referring to you Evo.
Your posts on the subject are pretty balanced.
But some people seem to relish slating him while others make out he's the second coming of Dennis Berkamp!
 
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Evo1883

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #104
Jamesimus said:
Both shite.
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I know you're joking but I have to ask... Are you joking really?
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #105
clint van damme said:
Wasn't referring to you Evo.
Your posts on the subject are pretty balanced.
But some people seem to relish slating him while others make out he's the second coming of Dennis Berkamp!
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I think that the criticism is a result of the hyperbole that gets bandied about, some of it is incredible.
 
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