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hill83

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  • Feb 6, 2020
  • #106
Grendel said:
Ratings
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In comparison to the stick Hiwula and Baka would be getting though.
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 6, 2020
  • #107
Londonccfcfan said:
No one said that you biased lunatic.
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Another one - liked by 2 other posters

Match Thread - Birmingham match thread
 

Londonccfcfan

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  • Feb 6, 2020
  • #108
cc84cov said:
Not good enough...not sure how he’s getting away with it on here lol
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Its a team game though, and he has contributed. 2 hatricks were stunning. Can only live off them so long.
He has to do better particularly when other strikers are dropped to bench after scoring a goal or two.

Midfielders scoring and particularly the attacking midfielders has taken heat off him. Ohare/ Walsh/Shipley/Westbrooke etc.
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 6, 2020
  • #109
More observations on this page pointing out he gets an easy ride from fans and one very direct observation

Match Thread - Birmingham match thread
 
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Magwitch

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  • Feb 6, 2020
  • #110
I doubt if all fit Robins will change his usual preferred starting formation initially which I’m certain will include Matty Godden as number one choice up top. Having said that I’m of the opinion Ryan Giles hasn’t been brought in to bench warm he seems to have the strengths I think we lack, pace, power a mean and accurate left peg. When he comes in we may then see a change of tact. I like Max and lately have seen a much better and productive Bakayoko. but along with Godden got to start hitting the back of net more often.
 

cc84cov

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  • Feb 6, 2020
  • #111
Magwitch said:
I doubt if all fit Robins will change his usual preferred starting formation initially which I’m certain will include Matty Godden as number one choice up top. Having said that I’m of the opinion Ryan Giles hasn’t been brought in to bench warm he seems to have the strengths I think we lack, pace, power a mean and accurate left peg. When he comes in we may then see a change of tact. I like Max and lately have seen a much better and productive Bakayoko.
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He has to he’s been very poor mate max staked his claim to start Saturday with that performance give the lad his chance I say
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 6, 2020
  • #112
I’d be amazed if Godden doesn’t start anyway
 

cc84cov

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  • Feb 6, 2020
  • #113
Grendel said:
I’d be amazed if Godden doesn’t start anyway
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Robins likes the players to earn the shirt make it there’s if that’s the case max & Baka start
 
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Londonccfcfan

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  • Feb 6, 2020
  • #114
Fair play to Max, hes not sulked.

Played in the reserves kept scoring.
Grendel said:
I’d be amazed if Godden doesn’t start anyway
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Your probably right i have a feeling he will.

But with games coming thick and fast expect squad rotation.
 
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Magwitch

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  • Feb 6, 2020
  • #115
I don’t expect rotation, recent evidence shows he doesn’t do that, everybody fit MR sticks to a winning team, what we might start seeing is earlier substitutions, Robins in the past had been a bit notoriously late with his subs. He has the ways and means and players to alter his game plan after an hour or so and stretch the oppositions tired legs and hopefully get games put to bed earlier and get away from these last minute dramas.
 
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cc84cov

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  • Feb 6, 2020
  • #116
Magwitch said:
I don’t expect rotation, recent evidence shows he doesn’t do that, everybody fit MR sticks to a winning team, what we might start seeing is earlier substitutions, Robins in the past had been a bit notoriously late with his subs. He has the ways and means and players to alter his game plan after an hour or so and stretch the oppositions tired legs and hopefully get games put to bed earlier and get away from these last minute dramas.
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I expect rotation if players looked shattered,off the pace or un fit mate.Mccallum,Rose & Allen I feel will start Saturday at least possibly max.
 

Skyblue_CP

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  • Feb 6, 2020
  • #117
Grendel said:
I’d be amazed if Godden doesn’t start anyway
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Im afraid a players movement alone doesn't warrant a place on pitch. He has been useless since Tranmere. Max has scored goals more consistently than Matt when hes played, he puts himself about, wins free kicks, robs defenders high up the pitch. For all Goddens hard work, he isnt very productive. Unfortunatly you can't see past your early disliking to Max.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 6, 2020
  • #118
Skyblue_CP said:
Im afraid a players movement alone doesn't warrant a place on pitch. He has been useless since Tranmere. Max has scored goals more consistently than Matt when hes played, he puts himself about, wins free kicks, robs defenders high up the pitch. For all Goddens hard work, he isnt very productive. Unfortunatly you can't see past your early disliking to Max.
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Biamou has been poor in the times he has played the lone striker role, Godden is better at it.
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 6, 2020
  • #119
Skyblue_CP said:
Im afraid a players movement alone doesn't warrant a place on pitch. He has been useless since Tranmere. Max has scored goals more consistently than Matt when hes played, he puts himself about, wins free kicks, robs defenders high up the pitch. For all Goddens hard work, he isnt very productive. Unfortunatly you can't see past your early disliking to Max.
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It’s the opposite I’m just coldly objective

In league games (this is a league game) Biamou has a lamentable scoring record. In fact in league one Godden has scored more in one game than Biamou in his career

He doesn’t create goals either. I think he’s got 5 credited assists in his whole league career

If Tuesday was a league game he wouldnt have scored.

I’m not being funny when I say this but I bet you refer to all other players not by their first name

He is a cult hero which transcends his ability
 

cc84cov

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  • Feb 6, 2020
  • #120
fernandopartridge said:
Biamou has been poor in the times he has played the lone striker role, Godden is better at it.
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Do you not think Godden has been poor past 4-5 games ?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 6, 2020
  • #121
cc84cov said:
Do you not think Godden has been poor past 4-5 games ?
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Yes but he is much better than Biamou in the lone striker role even when not playing well
 

cc84cov

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  • Feb 6, 2020
  • #122
fernandopartridge said:
Yes but he is much better than Biamou in the lone striker role even when not playing well
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He’s scored more at this level yes but he’s out of form mate & doesn’t look fit
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 6, 2020
  • #123
cc84cov said:
He’s scored more at this level yes but he’s out of form mate & doesn’t look fit
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Yeah, despite what I've said I'd give Biamou a chance in the next game
 

RegTheDonk

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  • Feb 6, 2020
  • #124
Bugger formations and tactics play them both.
 

cc84cov

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  • Feb 6, 2020
  • #125
RegTheDonk said:
Bugger formations and tactics play them both.
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They played together Tuesday didn’t seem to have anywhere near same connection as max & Baka
 
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Magwitch

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  • Feb 6, 2020
  • #126
Those calling out Godden take into account since his back to back hat-tricks he will be tightly marked, leads his line and he works his cobs off. I like Biamou who has different attributes but never a prolific scorer imo and that what’s being demanded from Godden. As for Bakayoko he’s most annoying, an enigma in a way, potentially everything is there height, pace, physique, but as yet he’s not delivered anywhere near consistently enough, will he ever ? I watched him last season at top of table Barnsley give both their centre-halves a torrid time, next match nothing. Can we pair up ? of course but we would lose out elsewhere that works.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 6, 2020
  • #127
Magwitch said:
Those calling out Godden take into account since his back to back hat-tricks he will be tightly marked, leads his line and he works his cobs off. I like Biamou who has different attributes but never a prolific scorer imo and that what’s being demanded from Godden. As for Bakayoko he’s most annoying, an enigma in a way, potentially everything is there height, pace, physique, but as yet he’s not delivered anywhere near consistently enough, will he ever ? I watched him last season at top of table Barnsley give both their centre-halves a torrid time, next match nothing. Can we pair up ? of course but we would lose out elsewhere that works.
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He's worked off the season's worth of offsides he picked up at Blackpool at least
 
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wingy

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  • Feb 6, 2020
  • #128
Brighton Sky Blue said:
He's worked off the season's worth of offsides he picked up at Blackpool at least
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Getting like Cody McDonald .
Disclaimer, this is an attempt at humour
I haven't a clue if he's any good or not.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 6, 2020
  • #129
wingy said:
Getting like Cody McDonald .
Disclaimer, this is an attempt at humour
I haven't a clue if he's any good or not.
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The answer is Wingy he's still inconsistent and shows a lack of intuition that a goalscorer needs. Godden has been guilty of some poor misses but when fully fit I'd still want him leading the line with proper support
 

hill83

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  • Feb 6, 2020
  • #130
Fully fit
Proper support
Lovely hair
Works hard
Isolated
Tightly marked
 
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cc84cov

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  • Feb 6, 2020
  • #131
hill83 said:
Fully fit
Proper support
Lovely hair
Works hard
Isolated
Tightly marked
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Always offside
 

better days

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  • Feb 6, 2020
  • #132
larry_david said:
To me for the past 3 weeks it looks like godden hasn't been running freely. He looks restricted. Having said that he's a finisher and we need to give him chances.

Max has returned a better player and he should play a massive part of the season now. Baka seems to have been pumped up Tuesday, hopefully his goal and performance kick him on now
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Godden probably needs a rest. He's been playing a lot of games for someone with a chronic groin niggle
The good news for Robins is the way Baka and Max played on Tuesday
I think Max had been seen as not doing enough when we don't have the ball which was certainly true in the past
If he can continue to work at that part of his game he will get more minutes
 
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Magwitch

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  • Feb 6, 2020
  • #133
Offsides: can be annoying but when a centre-forward is playing on the shoulders of defenders getting caught off will happen and often, remember the off-side law has changed this season, a player is off-side nowadays if a foot arm or chin is off. Poor old Jimmy Hill would have no chance.
 

shmmeee

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  • Feb 6, 2020
  • #134
hill83 said:
Fully fit
Proper support
Lovely hair
Works hard
Isolated
Tightly marked
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Not “lazy”

*runs*
 
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covcity4life

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  • Feb 6, 2020
  • #135
better days said:
Godden probably needs a rest. He's been playing a lot of games for someone with a chronic groin niggle
The good news for Robins is the way Baka and Max played on Tuesday
I think Max had been seen as not doing enough when we don't have the ball which was certainly true in the past
If he can continue to work at that part of his game he will get more minutes
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Robins very conplimentey of baka work ethic on tues. He may get the nod
 
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Irish Sky Blue

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  • Feb 6, 2020
  • #136
fernandopartridge said:
Biamou has been poor in the times he has played the lone striker role, Godden is better at it.
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What games has he played as a lone striker?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 6, 2020
  • #137
Irish Sky Blue said:
What games has he played as a lone striker?
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Shrewsbury away
 

Londonccfcfan

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  • Feb 6, 2020
  • #138
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Shrewsbury away
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Yes Biamou played as lone striker up untill 63 minutes. We were winning 1 nil. Played decent first 63 mins.

Godden comes on replacing Biamou, and we lose match 2-1.

(Godden didnt look great before his 2 hatricks)

Previous 3 matches vs Ipswich Biamou started as lone striker and scored 2 goals.

He came on for Biamou at Ipswich away and was continuously offside. Again we conceded.

I cant think of too many other times Biamou has started?

Not sure of what correlation or point hes trying to make.
 

Irish Sky Blue

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  • Feb 6, 2020
  • #139
fernandopartridge said:
Biamou has been poor in the times he has played the lone striker role, Godden is better at it.
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The only games I see where he has started as the lone striker were: Ipswich home in the cup, a1-1 draw, Shrewsbury away, 2_1 defeat, he went off injured, Ipswich Cup replay won 2-1 he scored, and Bristol R. Cup replay, won 3-0 he scored 2.
I would think that it is hard to form a definite opinion on 4 game's (particularly as in some of them we ended up with 2 strikers on the pitch anyway). I didn't see Ipswich away, but apparently he played well. He was okay in the Ipswich home tie and excellent against Bristol. Shrewsbury was a poor team performance, particularly second half.
So in 4 games with Biamou starting as a lone striker we have won 2, drawn 1 and lost 1 and he has scored 3 goals.
I don't agree that Godden is now suddenly useless either. I just think some fans form opinions of players and despite the evidence on the pitch, will never change them.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Feb 6, 2020
  • #140
better days said:
If he can continue to work at that part of his game he will get more minutes
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You are Mark Robins
 
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