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Match Day Thread - Sky Blue Sports & Leisure Limited and Others -v- Coventry City Council and Others (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Oct 12, 2018
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skybluetony176

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  • Oct 12, 2018
  • #106
no_loyalty said:
I really hope that Nuneaton Borough do not go out of business:-

1. It would be awful for all concerned with their club
2. Their ground would be available as an option for Sisu to move us there
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Norman Smurthwait owns the ground doesn’t he not Nuneaton borough?
 

Covstu

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2018
  • #107
Colin Steins Smile said:
Wasps will probably make an assessment over the costs and risks of hosting CCFC against the monetary returns. I would guess that costs will be significantly greater than at present for less commitment in maintaining the pitch for football usage.
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It’s wider than that though isn’t it, if Wasps are flat refusing then they risk being the bad guys and potentially could affect future fans walking through the turnstiles
 

WhaleOilBeefHooked

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2018
  • #108
skybluetony176 said:
Norman Smurthwait owns the ground doesn’t he not Nuneaton borough?
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On a train so shit internet and can't google. Who's this guy and why is he relevant?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 12, 2018
  • #109
skybluetony176 said:
Norman Smurthwait owns the ground doesn’t he not Nuneaton borough?
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Yep, think he is pals as well with people at ccfc. He was with boddy at the friendlies....

He's a member on here too!
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 12, 2018
  • #110
WhaleOilBeefHooked said:
On a train so shit internet and can't google. Who's this guy and why is he relevant?
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You tell us.
 

oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
  • Oct 12, 2018
  • #111
Nick said:
Can't really blame news about ccfc or give it as a potential reason for no stadium deal and not mention the fact that them providing faked evidence to auditors may also be off-putting?

You may not mean to, but in this thread you are coming across as an intelligent version of Italia. (In the nicest possible way).
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Now its my turn is it Nick ? I dont need that crap thank you.

Just putting ideas and reasoning out there for others to consider. Will leave it at that. Have a good weekend all and here is hoping for a win tomorrow.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 12, 2018
  • #112
oldskyblue58 said:
Now its my turn is it Nick ? I dont need that crap thank you.

Just putting ideas and reasoning out there for others to consider. Will leave it at that. Have a good weekend all and here is hoping for a win tomorrow.
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Turn? Was only really pointing out how it is coming across.

The ideas are all how ccfc are baddies and wasps aren't, exactly the same as when Italia would rock up. Ccfc negative stuff in the news given as a reason for no stadium sponsorship is a perfect example.

Its all well and good people saying where's the new stadium, where's wasps new kicking barn?

Not saying anybody is an innocent party or that ccfc shouldn't have to pay their way either. All baddies, all deserve each other and in both cases it's the fans who suffer.

Both sets of owners and the council are all as bad as each other. I wouldn't lose any sleep if any of them went bust and had to live the rest of their days in a bedsit.
 
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WhaleOilBeefHooked

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2018
  • #113
Nick said:
You tell us.
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I searched 'tool' and this was all I could find.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 12, 2018
  • #114
Covstu said:
It’s wider than that though isn’t it, if Wasps are flat refusing then they risk being the bad guys and potentially could affect future fans walking through the turnstiles
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That's why they start the pr early, same as they did with the higgs.
 
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Colin Steins Smile

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2018
  • #115
Nick said:
That's why they start the pr early, same as they did with the higgs.
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So are you saying that SISU's latest tactic is to "play the victim"?

Not sure too many people will be convinced by that tactic. I would expect the majority to think it's two dodgy organisations having a squabble.
 

Covstu

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2018
  • #116
Colin Steins Smile said:
So are you saying that SISU's latest tactic is to "play the victim"?

Not sure too many people will be convinced by that tactic. I would expect the majority to think it's two dodgy organisations having a squabble.
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I think it probably is to be honest, knowing they were going to lose this case the statement clearly indicates we have only one plan and then that falls to wasps. Clearly the public’s attitude towards SISU isn’t positive so they will have a impossible job of convincing them
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 12, 2018
  • #117
Colin Steins Smile said:
So are you saying that SISU's latest tactic is to "play the victim"?

Not sure too many people will be convinced by that tactic. I would expect the majority to think it's two dodgy organisations having a squabble.
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Yep, that statement last night was very poor and obvious.

They could have said we want to stay weeks ago just as we started the new season. Put out intentions early then.

Sisu aren't a victim, ccfc are.
 
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Magwitch

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2018
  • #118
What’s the chances now of finally finding out what are Tim Fisher’s plans B and C ?
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2018
  • #119
WhaleOilBeefHooked said:
On a train so shit internet and can't google. Who's this guy and why is he relevant?
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He’s owns Port Vale but is originally from Coventry. I’m not sure what his long game is with borough but I understand he was invited to purchase the ground and it had to be ratified by the FL given his involvement with Port Vale. Not sure what his connection is with borough or the people behind borough and how he came to be invited to purchase the ground. Think he made his money in real estate so maybe his interest is purely commercial.
 
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WhaleOilBeefHooked

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2018
  • #120
Magwitch said:
What’s the chances now of finally finding out what are Tim Fisher’s plans B and C ?
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After we find out Plan A I guess
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2018
  • #121
All part of the negotiations ! I’m sure wasps are just trying to squeeze a bit more out of us for a longer rent deal. This is of our (Sisu’s) making, played hard ball and lost...several times ! Now they are up against a similar type of organisation. Sure it will get sorted if the money is right

Ps what happened to the numerous alternative sites we were lining up ?!! If the football league had any balls they’d be having words
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 12, 2018
  • #122
skybluetony176 said:
He’s owns Port Vale but is originally from Coventry. I’m not sure what his long game is with borough but I understand he was invited to purchase the ground and it had to be ratified by the FL given his involvement with Port Vale. Not sure what his connection is with borough or the people behind borough and how he came to be invited to purchase the ground. Think he made his money in real estate so maybe his interest is purely commercial.
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The Nuneaton fans seem to think it is property related (only seen a few). It's all a bit weird.

He's trying to get out of port vale isn't he?

I wonder if we tag him in he will respond?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2018
  • #123
oldskyblue58 said:
Now its my turn is it Nick ? I dont need that crap thank you.

Just putting ideas and reasoning out there for others to consider. Will leave it at that. Have a good weekend all and here is hoping for a win tomorrow.
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He’s had a bad day and clearly doesn’t have a cat to kick so he’s trying to take it out on posters instead. It was just your turn. Probably mine now.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 12, 2018
  • #124
skybluetony176 said:
He’s had a bad day and clearly doesn’t have a cat to kick so he’s trying to take it out on posters instead. It was just your turn. Probably mine now.
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Not really, was only pointing it out. Pretty obvious really if you read the thread.

Had a decent day so far

I do hate cats though, not so much to kick them.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2018
  • #125
Nick said:
The Nuneaton fans seem to think it is property related (only seen a few). It's all a bit weird.

He's trying to get out of port vale isn't he?

I wonder if we tag him in he will respond?
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I think it’s been officially for sale since they were relegated to league two.
 

WhaleOilBeefHooked

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2018
  • #126
skybluetony176 said:
He’s had a bad day and clearly doesn’t have a cat to kick so he’s trying to take it out on posters instead. It was just your turn. Probably mine now.
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I mean, we can call a spade a spade and just say he's a bit of a bellend and a power trip nazi, right?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2018
  • #127
Nick said:
Not really, was only pointing it out. Pretty obvious really.

Had a decent day so far
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Yeah OK. I’m surprised you haven’t pulled the there’s a game tomorrow line yet. Maybe you’re saving it for me.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 12, 2018
  • #128
skybluetony176 said:
Yeah OK. I’m surprised you haven’t pulled the there’s a game tomorrow line yet. Maybe you’re saving it for me.
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I just assumed everybody knew.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 12, 2018
  • #129
WhaleOilBeefHooked said:
I mean, we can call a spade a spade and just say he's a bit of a bellend and a power trip nazi, right?
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You can if you want. Where's the power trip though? Normal members pointed out your account without any powers.

No doubt you will be vanish after this dies down the same as the rest of them have.

It's not my fault people are so blatant.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2018
  • #130
Magwitch said:
What’s the chances now of finally finding out what are Tim Fisher’s plans B and C ?
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B) Cook dinner

C) Chippy night
 
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WhaleOilBeefHooked

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2018
  • #131
Nick said:
No doubt you will be vanish after this dies down the same as the rest of them have.
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we'll see, Mein Führer
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2018
  • #132
Nick said:
Wasps had a player banned for drugs, they got caught fiddling to mislead investors. They aren't really the angels made our are they?
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If you think our boat trip to Charlton had issues don't google the Wasps players end of season boat trip!
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 12, 2018
  • #133
WhaleOilBeefHooked said:
we'll see, Mein Führer
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We'll see what? If any of your back story ever adds up? The nazi thing clearly isn't working.

Pretty predictable really. It will be freedom of speech soon and censorship.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 12, 2018
  • #134
chiefdave said:
If you think our boat trip to Charlton had issues don't google the Wasps players end of season boat trip!
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Yeah but Reid bought a new car remember.

To try and say all the negative press is purely ccfc is madness.

That's not saying there is no negative press for ccfc, there clearly is. Especially with the extra push it seems to get...
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2018
  • #135
Nick said:
Turn? Was only really pointing out how it is coming across.

The ideas are all how ccfc are baddies and wasps aren't, exactly the same as when Italia would rock up. Ccfc negative stuff in the news given as a reason for no stadium sponsorship is a perfect example.

Its all well and good people saying where's the new stadium, where's wasps new kicking barn?

Not saying anybody is an innocent party or that ccfc shouldn't have to pay their way either. All baddies, all deserve each other and in both cases it's the fans who suffer.

Both sets of owners and the council are all as bad as each other. I wouldn't lose any sleep if any of them went bust and had to live the rest of their days in a bedsit.
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How it came across to you. Says more about you than OSB to be fair mate. His posts are better informed and sourced than the vast vast majority on here on any side. If you’re finding them not to your liking it’s likely not the fault of the facts he presents.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 12, 2018
  • #136
shmmeee said:
How it came across to you. Says more about you than OSB to be fair mate. His posts are better informed and sourced than the vast vast majority on here on any side. If you’re finding them not to your liking it’s likely not the fault of the facts he presents.
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Not really just to me, all very leaning towards wasps being the goodies and ccfc the baddies.

Only have to read them to see that in this thread which is why I just replied in here about the posts in the thread.

Never said they aren't put across well or better informed. A post can be well written and factual but still very much give a certain impression / view.

If only the telegraph could afford that.

Ps. That's not saying any party haven't been baddies, it's pointing out it isn't just them.
 
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Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2018
  • #137
Colin Steins Smile said:
So are you saying that SISU's latest tactic is to "play the victim"?

Not sure too many people will be convinced by that tactic. I would expect the majority to think it's two dodgy organisations having a squabble.
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Yes it is two dodgy organisations having a,squabble, but SISU's case doesn't hold water and Wasps hold the aces.

But we all know Seppala will go the extra punch drunk round.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2018
  • #138
We can't forget that as stadium owners London Wasps make money from contracts given out to the F&B people, naming rights, the hotel, the casino etc. without a quarter of a million football fans these contracts are going to be worth a lot less when they come up for renewal so even if CCFC don't contribute a lot to London Wasps' coffers then the indirect value is still significant and they know that.
 
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Rusty Trombone

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2018
  • #139
The judgement is an interesting read (to me), ref 20 and 63 state that Higgs had the real power in the sale transaction, as they made it clear they would only sell to Wasps. I suppose one of the bigger mistakes Joy has made was to annoy the Higgs charity.
 
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cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2018
  • #140
So what now ?

Big blow for sisu they surely know they will never get the Ricoh time to sell up and piss off ???
 
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