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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 28, 2021
  • #351
shmmeee said:
If only we had a modern day Dublin
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Irish Sky Blue

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  • Jul 28, 2021
  • #352
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Because there was genuinely nobody else. Baka when available would have been even worse
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That's not true. Biamou played when both Walker and Gyokores were fit and available. Robins still picked him. Both of these players were on the bench when Biamou was on the pitch.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 28, 2021
  • #353
Irish Sky Blue said:
That's not true. Biamou played when both Walker and Gyokores were fit and available. Robins still picked him. Both of these players were on the bench when Biamou was on the pitch.
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He signed gyorkes for a seven figure fee and did not offer biamou a new deal
 

Irish Sky Blue

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  • Jul 28, 2021
  • #354
procdoc said:
We weren’t exactly flush with attacking options and we got rid at the end of the season so Robins agrees that he’s not up to it
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The getting rid at the end of the season really doesn't explain why with a choice of Biamou, Walker Gyokores and sometimes Godden during a large chunk of last season, Robins often chose Max over the others, particularly in the lone strikers role. You state above that he was basically useless in every aspect of a striker's play and yet Robins often picked him above the other forwards we had and frequently praised him on his after match interview as did Oggy in his role as a pundit.
Why would his manager and a respected ex player hold such different opinions to you ?
 
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Irish Sky Blue

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  • Jul 28, 2021
  • #355
Grendel said:
He signed gyorkes for a seven figure fee and did not offer biamou a new deal
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Still missing the crucial part of the discussion.
Why did he regularly choose Biamou over the others?
 
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mmttww

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  • Jul 28, 2021
  • #356
Checked the thread; just another page of dickheads doing what dickheads do. Use f*cking DMs for f*ck sake. If you think anyone's reading this sh*te and being blown away by your intelligence, you need help. If that's not why you're doing it, you need help.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 28, 2021
  • #357
Irish Sky Blue said:
That's not true. Biamou played when both Walker and Gyokores were fit and available. Robins still picked him. Both of these players were on the bench when Biamou was on the pitch.
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They were fit enough to be on the bench but not necessarily to start, for well publicised reasons. Oh and they're both still here whereas Max remains without a club
 

Irish Sky Blue

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  • Jul 28, 2021
  • #358
shmmeee said:
I don’t think people realise how unfit Walker and Györkeres were last season.
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A bit of revision of history going on in order to fit people's pre ordained views it seems.

Gyokores may not have played regularly for Swansea but he would have been training. Presumably he had his pre-season at either Brighton, Swansea or both. I don't remember hearing that he had any spells out injured.

Walker did have Covid and picked up one or two injuries that undoubtedly affected his season. However he was being played during the latter part of the season, often from the bench. This would indicate that he did have a level of match fitness. What has been apparent in the three friendly matches is that he is still struggling to make his mark as a lone striker when presumably he is approaching full match fitness.

What can't be disputed is that Biamou himself was definitely playing with a knee injury which I think was going to require surgery to correct.

I think that Gyokores and hopefully Walker will both go on to have a great season. Looking at their performances so far, I don't think that will be as a lone striker.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 28, 2021
  • #359
Irish Sky Blue said:
A bit of revision of history going on in order to fit people's pre ordained views it seems.

Gyokores may not have played regularly for Swansea but he would have been training. Presumably he had his pre-season at either Brighton, Swansea or both. I don't remember hearing that he had any spells out injured.

Walker did have Covid and picked up one or two injuries that undoubtedly affected his season. However he was being played during the latter part of the season, often from the bench. This would indicate that he did have a level of match fitness. What has been apparent in the three friendly matches is that he is still struggling to make his mark as a lone striker when presumably he is approaching full match fitness.

What can't be disputed is that Biamou himself was definitely playing with a knee injury which I think was going to require surgery to correct.

I think that Gyokores and hopefully Walker will both go on to have a great season. Looking at their performances so far, I don't think that will be as a lone striker.
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I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here-nobody has said that either of them should play on their own up front?
 

Irish Sky Blue

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  • Jul 28, 2021
  • #360
Brighton Sky Blue said:
They were fit enough to be on the bench but not necessarily to start, for well publicised reasons. Oh and they're both still here whereas Max remains without a club
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We've already been over the fact that they were fit to play and were fit enough to start, as on occasions they did. The fact they are here and Max isn't is a smokescreen trying to obscure the fact that Robins consistently picked someone who a group of 'experts' on here like to deride.
I'll leave it there as we are going around in circles.
 

Irish Sky Blue

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  • Jul 28, 2021
  • #361
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here-nobody has said that either of them should play on their own up front?
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The point I made that caused this latest Max debate was that he proved himself to be more successful in the lone striker's role than either Walker or Gyokores.
That statement has brought out the usual 'Biamou was crap' comments.
I'll leave it there.
 
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COV

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  • Jul 28, 2021
  • #362
Irish Sky Blue said:
The point I made that caused this latest Max debate was that he proved himself to be more successful in the lone striker's role than either Walker or Gyokores.
That statement has brought out the usual 'Biamou was crap' comments.
I'll leave it there.
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You are right- he was the best in that role last season. I don’t quite get the ridicule Biamou receives, he did well for us and now we’ve moved on.
 
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Frostie

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  • Jul 28, 2021
  • #363
Irish Sky Blue said:
We've already been over the fact that they were fit to play and were fit enough to start, as on occasions they did. The fact they are here and Max isn't is a smokescreen trying to obscure the fact that Robins consistently picked someone who a group of 'experts' on here like to deride.
I'll leave it there as we are going around in
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Robins addressed this at the time, saying he wanted to keep playing Walker but had to take him out & put Biamou back in as both Walker & Gyok were struggling with fitness.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 28, 2021
  • #364
Irish Sky Blue said:
Still missing the crucial part of the discussion.
Why did he regularly choose Biamou over the others?
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They weren’t considered fit enough for 90 minutes
 
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CDK

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  • Jul 28, 2021
  • #365
Max has gone He's outta here ,Move on.Walker has to play with a partner he can't do a lone striker role.gyo and waghorn to feature a lot this coming season I think.can see the energy of the team being driven by O'Hare and bright yes that's in the same team.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jul 28, 2021
  • #366
Grendel said:
He signed gyorkes for a seven figure fee and did not offer biamou a new deal
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While I agree with your overall point haven't you elsewhere been saying it's going to be nowhere near that figure, paid in installments and based heavily on add-ons. Yet now when it suits you you call it a seven-figure sum. At least be consistent.
 

PatrickSkyBlues

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  • Jul 28, 2021
  • #367
SlowerThanPlatt said:
I believe one of the trialists is Abel Alabi - the Irish defender
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Yes , has featured in U23s and has been really strong performances for 23s.
 

PatrickSkyBlues

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #368
shmmeee said:
Any ideas who Trialist C might be if A and B are Bushiri and Cranie?
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Abel Alabi , 17year old on trial with U23s
 
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PatrickSkyBlues

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #369
Sky Blue Harry H said:
He's only 17 isn't he? (or recently turned 18 at a push)
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Yeah Alabi is 17. 2003 born.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #370
PatrickSkyBlues said:
Yes , has featured in U23s and has been really strong performances for 23s.
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I assume you’re a relative or friend of his?
 

PatrickSkyBlues

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #371
Relative, just keeping track of progress. Not many games documented. This thread helps.
 
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usskyblue

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #372
PatrickSkyBlues said:
Relative, just keeping track of progress. Not many games documented. This thread helps.
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Cool m8 yeah…but…

….was Biamou shit or not ?
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #373
PatrickSkyBlues said:
Relative, just keeping track of progress. Not many games documented. This thread helps.
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Is it al-a-bee or ala-buy?

We need to know for the jokes.
 
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PatrickSkyBlues

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #374
Haha Ah-lah-bee. School wasn't fun
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #375
PatrickSkyBlues said:
Haha Ah-lah-bee. School wasn't fun
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Hows Abel found the trial? Enjoyed it?
 

ceetee

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #376
Why is he on trial if he has an Alabi?............ sorry
 
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PatrickSkyBlues

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #377
Ccfcisparks said:
Hows Abel found the trial? Enjoyed it?
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Good experience so far, was delighted with the call into first team fixture.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #378
PatrickSkyBlues said:
Good experience so far, was delighted with the call into first team fixture.
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What sort of player is he?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #379
shmmeee said:
What sort of player is he?
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Bi al accounts he's quite abel
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #380
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Bi al accounts he's quite abel
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procdoc

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #381
mmttww said:
Checked the thread; just another page of dickheads doing what dickheads do. Use f*cking DMs for f*ck sake. If you think anyone's reading this sh*te and being blown away by your intelligence, you need help. If that's not why you're doing it, you need help.
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It’s a forum you fucking melt
 
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COV

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #382
procdoc said:
It’s a forum you fucking melt
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When people start kicking off about something totally random its annoying, the rest of it- all opinions are just as valid, don't see the issue
 
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procdoc

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #383
COV said:
When people start kicking off about something totally random its annoying, the rest of it- all opinions are just as valid, don't see the issue
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When I throw a few insults into my posts it’s nothing personal, just my way of expressing myself haha
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #384
PatrickSkyBlues said:
Good experience so far, was delighted with the call into first team fixture.
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That's good to hear. I wish him the best of luck but if he does sign for us a word of warning - don't come on here looking at opinions because it won't be five minutes before someone is calling him shit and a waste of a wage.
 
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