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Shows just how... naive certain actions and displays were, however.
Shows just how... naive certain actions and displays were, however.Regime change could never have been forced by ACL, CCC or the trust. It was a fact then as it is now
No but I would bet limited companies behind clubs change without people even realising most of the time. Nobody supports a limited company.
If 10,000 city fans went to support cov United it doesn't mean I'd go thinking it was the new ccfc.
CCFC ladies?But CCFC going into liquidation doesn’t have to mean a Male change does it?
I think the only people who would liquidate CCFC is Sisu, hasn’t Seppala threatened already to do this? Why would liquidation therefore be down to anyone else but them? So the Trust and Sisu now conspiring together to get rid of CCFC? As I said, if this happens it will be down to Sisu and the Trust and other fan groups would be left to pick up the pieces. Those that think the real CCFC is dead would have no reason to moan or protest if the rest of us don’t see it that way. A team that plays in Coventry, in Sky Blue and has Coventry City in their name, supported by the bulk of our fans would morally and spiritually still be the same club to me. If Sisu carry on as they are, this may be the only option left. Better that than to disappear completely.And that's the issue. There's a growing band of fans who don't want to keep the CURRENT club alive, it's almost if.....they want us to be liquidated. Surely not!
Who gives a shit about the trading name though? We have changed trading name.
I think the only people who would liquidate CCFC is Sisu, hasn’t Seppala threatened already to do this? Why would liquidation therefore be down to anyone else but them? So the Trust and Sisu now conspiring together to get rid of CCFC? As I said, if this happens it will be down to Sisu and the Trust and other fan groups would be left to pick up the pieces. Those that think the real CCFC is dead would have no reason to moan or protest if the rest of us don’t see it that way. A team that plays in Coventry, in Sky Blue and has Coventry City in their name, supported by the bulk of our fans would morally and spiritually still be the same club to me. If Sisu carry on as they are, this may be the only option left. Better that than to disappear completely.
We obviously must also maintain a legitimate claim to our history whatever happens, but beyond that I am not too hung up on details or legal shenanigans.A team that plays in Coventry, in Sky Blue and has Coventry City in their name, supported by the bulk of our fans would morally and spiritually still be the same club to me. .
I can’t see why any City fan would want liquidation. As the Trust are simply a group of City fans who follow home and away, I can’t see why they would want it either. They certainly have no control or input into the process.I'm not saying otherwise. I am saying there are some - the Trust? - to whom liquidation is the preferred option.
Rubbish and you know it.I'm not saying otherwise. I am saying there are some - the Trust? - to whom liquidation is the preferred option.
Apart from the ones who boycott, right?I can’t see why any City fan would want liquidation. As the Trust are simply a group of City fans who follow home and away, I can’t see why they would want it either. They certainly have no control or input into the process.
Speaking of which, Ryan Kent seems to have settled in well.Rangers would have been a better topic!
Halifax Town ceased to exist in 2008 and lost Football Conference membership.Halifax, Chester, Newport all still exist.
Be realistic, can you see thousands turning up for non league football every week. Let alone the matter of where a new club would play, quite possibly outside the city.I find this whole “if it’s not exactly the same organisation it’s NOTHING TO ME!!” A little dramatic.
CCFC ceased to exist when they were wound up, and Otium bought the rights to the name.Halifax Town ceased to exist in 2008 and lost Football Conference membership.
FC Halifax Town was then formed, a new club, and placed in the Northern Premer League Division 1 North.
They have yet to regain FL status.
Chester ceased to exist in 2010 and lost Football Conference membership.
Chester FC was then formed, a new club, and placed in the Northern Premier League Division 1 North.
They have yet to regain FL status.
Newport Country ceased to exist in 1989 and lost Football Conferance membership.
Newport AFC was then formed, a new club, and placed in the Hellenic Football League.
It took them over 20 years to regain FL status.
There seems to be this idea the club can reform in a lower league and in a couple of years be back at our current level, that won’t happen. There’s not many success stories from clubs that have tried that route.
Be realistic, can you see thousands turning up for non league football every week. Let alone the matter of where a new club would play, quite possibly outside the city.
Ccfc didn't cease to exist. That's the difference else there would be no name to buy.CCFC ceased to exist when they were wound up, and Otium bought the rights to the name.
Again, the curse of literalism strikes, completely flying in the face of the arguments made as to why the club is not SISU!
No they didn’t. The assets that constitute the football club, including FL membership, were transferred to a new company prior to the old company being liquidated.CCFC ceased to exist when they were wound up, and Otium bought the rights to the name.
CCFC ceased to exist when they were wound up, and Otium bought the rights to the name.
Again, the curse of literalism strikes, completely flying in the face of the arguments made as to why the club is not SISU!
Apart from the ones who boycott, right?
Careful they are all out on the attack.CCFC ceased to exist when they were wound up, and Otium bought the rights to the name.
Again, the curse of literalism strikes, completely flying in the face of the arguments made as to why the club is not SISU!
How many is that then?Apart from the ones who boycott, right?
Or pointing out the people who would want it.How many is that then?
Torch making a generalisation that they all want it just to win an arguement.
You would say I was making things up if I had made that comment.
Funny how people are already trying to find someone else to blame just incase it happens.
Careful they are all out on the attack.
That’s everyone isn’t it? Who are the fans who want liquidation? Who are the Trust board members who want us to go bust? I don’t think the few people on here attacking the Trust are the only ones who want the club to survive, do you? It is the notion that because the Trust were the only fan group not to sign up to the recent statement (a mistake on their part I think, although I understand why they didn’t do it) that they are now the enemy of the club. The notion is now being put about that they would welcome liquidation due to some half cocked notion that they want control of the club. The only people threatening our future are Sisu and Wasps with the former the only ones who can bring about liquidation.Who? People who want to preserve the club and it's heritage?
It's the notion that somebody at one of their meetings was up at the front telling members that if the club goes into adminstration the pieces could be picked up.That’s everyone isn’t it? Who are the fans who want liquidation? Who are the Trust board members who want us to go bust? I don’t think the few people on here attacking the Trust are the only ones who want the club to survive, do you? It is the notion that because the Trust were the only fan group not to sign up to the recent statement (a mistake on their part I think, although I understand why they didn’t do it) that they are now the enemy of the club. The notion is now being put about that they would welcome liquidation due to some half cocked notion that they want control of the club. The only people threatening our future are Sisu and Wasps with the former the only ones who can bring about liquidation.
That’s everyone isn’t it? Who are the fans who want liquidation? Who are the Trust board members who want us to go bust? I don’t think the few people on here attacking the Trust are the only ones who want the club to survive, do you? It is the notion that because the Trust were the only fan group not to sign up to the recent statement (a mistake on their part I think, although I understand why they didn’t do it) that they are now the enemy of the club. The notion is now being put about that they would welcome liquidation due to some half cocked notion that they want control of the club. The only people threatening our future are Sisu and Wasps with the former the only ones who can bring about liquidation.
I think it is only a last resort to resurrect the club if Sisu do pull the trigger. I know from a Trust meeting I attended some years ago that they had plans in place if the worst came to the worst. I would have thought that that is how things ought to be. I have honestly never heard anyone say that liquidation is a goal.I'm not talking about the trust but there were a lot of people pushing the liquidate and start again agenda a while ago and it seems to be back in vogue now in some quarters
But they did... if you want to go the pathetioc, pedantic literalist route that this goes, the entity that was CCFC was wound up. Continually telling me no doesn't alter that, it just shows that it's all about the literalist, finest interpretation, and to hell with the bigger picture!Ccfc didn't cease to exist.
See the response to Tim fisher thread. Of course not every single person but it's the point I make that some ruin it for others by being like that.I think it is only a last resort to resurrect the club if Sisu do pull the trigger. I know from a Trust meeting I attended some years ago that they had plans in place if the worst came to the worst. I would have thought that that is how things ought to be. I have honestly never heard anyone say that liquidation is a goal.
As for comments elsewhere, I have never heard season ticket holders abused by other Trust members. Trust members post on here are season ticket holders as am I. I would assume that most people who go to Trust events are ST holders. I have never heard any criticism.
But they did... if you want to go the pathetioc, pedantic literalist route that this goes, the entity that was CCFC was wound up. Continually telling me no doesn't alter that, it just shows that it's all about the literalist, finest interpretation, and to hell with the bigger picture!
Anyway, who gives a fuck about fans of Newport erh! Or Chester! They don't count. What matters is winning a minor point of pedantry rather than trying to grasp the wider picture!
It really isn't though, is it?I'm not talking about the trust but there were a lot of people pushing the liquidate and start again agenda a while ago and it seems to be back in vogue now in some quarters
It really isn't though, is it?
Find me this groundswell of opinion that says it. Even the OP here doesn't say it, and was clarified further after that. It's a stupid argument that sees us sleepwalk into oblivion because people are too busy deciding what the club means to them is the only definition that's allowed!
See the response to Tim fisher thread. Of course not every single person but it's the point I make that some ruin it for others by being like that.
It's the same as the sniping at what juggy has done
Ha comedian.Who? People who want to preserve the club and it's heritage?
You think that sentiments funny.Ha comedian.
It's mentioned because as no solution looms, the final solution becomes more possible.Isn't it?
I didn't mention ground swell and I think that would be an exaggeration but as the clock starts to run down on a deal you hear it mentioned more and more.
And by mentioned, I mean mentioned in the context of being a solution not a possibility.
"Oh well, liquidate and start again" - crazy talk!
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